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Timothy CHAN 2010-10-23 10:48

ALERT Nokia N900 Users - DON'T UPGRADE TO FIREFOX 4 BETA!!
 
This morning I saw from a website that FireFox 4 BETA has been released.

I was using a older version of FireFox Mobile on my N900. It worked fine except video in some websites could not play and asked me to upgrade the Flash Player; and I could not figure out how to upgrade the Flash Player to get those videos play.

I thought new FireFox 4 might be the answer so I installed it from FireFox official website.

Since I installed FireFox 4, I am unable to open one single website properly. Sometimes, I luckily loaded partial content and the status bar indicated it kept loading; and kept loading forever.

I have to change back to use the N900 default browser now.

Anyone who could help me to install older version FireFox Mobile back?

TC

Persson 2010-10-23 10:50

Re: ALERT Nokia N900 Users - DON'T UPGRADE TO FIREFOX 4 BETA!!
 
FireFox 4 BETA works just fine for me, i think you have other problems whid your n900

Dancairo 2010-10-23 10:59

Re: ALERT Nokia N900 Users - DON'T UPGRADE TO FIREFOX 4 BETA!!
 
It worked fine for me too, I just preferred the older one so I switched back - Beta 4 doesn't allow add ons yet. I just uninstalled it and reinstalled the old one from the .deb I had on my PC hard drive.

I think you can get it from here:-
http://store.ovi.com/content/26002?c...a=applications

DaReaper 2010-10-23 10:59

Re: ALERT Nokia N900 Users - DON'T UPGRADE TO FIREFOX 4 BETA!!
 
Yes The fireforx 4 Beta 1 works perfectly fine .. i am able to load all websites ... just like in the older version

Just note that dont install the Beta 2 version ( Its really buggy , and wont load any webpage ... and its incredibly slow ) only the Beta 1 is officially released ..

ZogG 2010-10-23 10:59

Re: ALERT Nokia N900 Users - DON'T UPGRADE TO FIREFOX 4 BETA!!
 
WOW!!! LET"S USE CAPS LETTERS.cause it's so hard to uninstall program from uninstall section, and than just to intall the old one from repos or isntall using apt-get the specific version. you know what, i don't use ff on n900, but now just cause of that topic i'm gonna install last version!!!

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keep the forum clean, there are firefox 4 and firefox threads.
http://www.printablesigns.net/samples/DoNotLitter.png

champus 2010-10-23 11:02

Re: ALERT Nokia N900 Users - DON'T UPGRADE TO FIREFOX 4 BETA!!
 
Firefox 4 is so slow, especially the interface and the boot up. It also takes to many ressources, for me it seems that there are some huge bottlenecks in memory access. I like Firefox very well, but for me it's not an application I prefer (on the N900). The newest Opera browser is a lot faster and even for an open source developer like me the proprietary development the Opera team prefers is acceptable because of the benefits this browser gives. And of course: I'm not in contact with Opera and I'm using Firefox on my Mac, so this is not an "ad" for Opera, just a hint that y'all should give it a try!

Zogg:
Giant Whisky on the rocks? :-P

Dancairo 2010-10-23 11:08

Re: ALERT Nokia N900 Users - DON'T UPGRADE TO FIREFOX 4 BETA!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ZogG (Post 848565)
WOW!!! LET"S USE CAPS LETTERS.cause it's so hard to uninstall program from uninstall section, and than just to intall the old one from repos or isntall using apt-get the specific version. you know what, i don't use ff on n900, but now just cause of that topic i'm gonna install last version!!!

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keep the forum clean, there are firefox 4 and firefox threads.

When I first joined this forum nearly a year ago, it was this sort of reply that made me feel alienated and that it was a hostile forum for anyone but geeks and experts - I think it's better to look at the OP's join date and post count and guide them politely to the search rather that snap at them...they may stay around longer and become developers (god knows we need as many as possible), rather than leave in a huff of indignation as I was tempted to do.

ZogG 2010-10-23 11:25

Re: ALERT Nokia N900 Users - DON'T UPGRADE TO FIREFOX 4 BETA!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dancairo (Post 848573)
When I first joined this forum nearly a year ago, it was this sort of reply that made me feel alienated and that it was a hostile forum for anyone but geeks and experts - I think it's better to look at the OP's join date and post count and guide them politely to the search rather that snap at them...they may stay around longer and become developers (god knows we need as many as possible), rather than leave in a huff of indignation as I was tempted to do.

maybe it's true, but from my logic the person on this forum, even he is new here, aware of internet and search thing. and i still can't get it - as to make a post takes more time than search - but still most people don't bother as in their heads it's easier to start topic.
And i'm pretty sure the developer would report the bug if there were any problem and would be aware of getting back to previous version. i'm not long enuf here, but once it was interesting to read forum and topics, and nowdays i mostly just log in and watch last activies and as see nothing interesting there i log off. as well didn't you think that some devs are tierd of this and can leave for same reason?

ericsson 2010-10-23 11:41

Re: ALERT Nokia N900 Users - DON'T UPGRADE TO FIREFOX 4 BETA!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ZogG (Post 848582)
maybe it's true, but from my logic the person on this forum, even he is new here, aware of internet and search thing. and i still can't get it - as to make a post takes more time than search - but still most people don't bother as in their heads it's easier to start topic.
And i'm pretty sure the developer would report the bug if there were any problem and would be aware of getting back to previous version. i'm not long enuf here, but once it was interesting to read forum and topics, and nowdays i mostly just log in and watch last activies and as see nothing interesting there i log off. as well didn't you think that some devs are tierd of this and can leave for same reason?

Just nonsense. If everyone (or at least more than 50%) stayed on topic, there would be no problems. The snapping above serves two purposes. it alianates and makes the thread go off topic.

breakthru 2010-10-28 06:55

Re: ALERT Nokia N900 Users - DON'T UPGRADE TO FIREFOX 4 BETA!!
 
Hi,

I had a very similar (maybe the same) problem after I flashed my N900 with PR1.3. My solution was to enable plugins in Firefox 4 Mobile Beta 1. The older builds weren't as picky with flash content but FF4B1 seems to be unable to open pages with flash content at all when the plugin is disabled.

Anyway you must enable plugins by entering about:config to the address bar. Search for "plugins" in the config page (without the quotation marks) and mark dom.ipc.plugins.enabled as true. Restart Firefox and you should now be able to load up pages...

danramos 2010-10-28 07:08

Re: ALERT Nokia N900 Users - DON'T UPGRADE TO FIREFOX 4 BETA!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ZogG (Post 848565)
WOW!!! LET"S USE CAPS LETTERS.cause it's so hard to uninstall program from uninstall section, and than just to intall the old one from repos or isntall using apt-get the specific version. you know what, i don't use ff on n900, but now just cause of that topic i'm gonna install last version!!!

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keep the forum clean, there are firefox 4 and firefox threads.
http://www.printablesigns.net/samples/DoNotLitter.png

YOU CAN'T TELL ME WHAT TO DO!!!! ;) heheh

http://pleco.org/heh/BadVista_no_littering.png

zerone 2010-10-28 14:55

Re: ALERT Nokia N900 Users - DON'T UPGRADE TO FIREFOX 4 BETA!!
 
Tried Beta 1 and it was really unusable. I switched to Beta2 nightly and current builds have been way better than Beta1 release.

Addons have still not been updated to support 4.0b1 or b2, especially Adblock Plus, there is an option to disable compatibility check though if you want to test compatibility of your addons. But the browser itself is a lot better than Beta1 or even the 1.1 release.

jedi 2010-10-28 15:04

Re: ALERT Nokia N900 Users - DON'T UPGRADE TO FIREFOX 4 BETA!!
 
You guys do know what the "beta" means when related to software, no?

stlpaul 2010-10-28 15:34

Re: ALERT Nokia N900 Users - DON'T UPGRADE TO FIREFOX 4 BETA!!
 
Do you know what Beta means? Did you file a bug report with Mozilla about your problem? Did you use the built-in feedback mechanism within the application?

Edit: :p Jedi beat me to it...

geneven 2010-10-28 17:03

Re: ALERT Nokia N900 Users - DON'T UPGRADE TO FIREFOX 4 BETA!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by stlpaul (Post 855425)
Do you know what Beta means? Did you file a bug report with Mozilla about your problem? Did you use the built-in feedback mechanism within the application?

Edit: :p Jedi beat me to it...

Did you know that you can delete a redundant post?

Creamy Goodness 2010-10-28 17:08

Re: ALERT Nokia N900 Users - DON'T UPGRADE TO FIREFOX 4 BETA!!
 
i don't really believe you, about it not working.
and if you want to enable your extensions on the newest beta, do this:
about:config
add > boolean
"extensions.checkCompatibility.4.0b" FALSE
ignore the fact that it's not listed
restart

stlpaul 2010-10-28 17:14

Re: ALERT Nokia N900 Users - DON'T UPGRADE TO FIREFOX 4 BETA!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by geneven (Post 855554)
Did you know that you can delete a redundant post?

Yes, but it was not entirely redundant, only we both wrote "Do you know what Beta means?" at the same time. My post had the "added value" of asking about bug report and feedback...

Timothy CHAN 2010-11-04 09:41

Re: ALERT Nokia N900 Users - DON'T UPGRADE TO FIREFOX 4 BETA!!
 
I have no intention to respond to those who dislike my post; readers don't enter this site to read arguments which are not technically related.

However, after reading some nice comments from contributors like Dancairo, I can't help to make a response.

I would not and cannot pretend as developer. I bought my N900 in June and then started looking for useful apps for it and for me. I am purely an enduser. I was then linked to this website without knowing this is a community for developers.

For those developers who don't like to see laymen like me to appear here. I am sorry but first thing is, there is no "sign" at the entrance to ask the visitor to leave if one has not certain level of programming knowledge.

Perhaps you will say, then just read and learn and keep quiet. I have thought about that, believe me. I then decide to keep posting because if I can enter freely here, many like me from all corners of the world may do. My post maybe non-sense to you as developers but could be helpful to those at my level to avoid making some mistakes.

TC

slender 2010-11-04 09:55

Re: ALERT Nokia N900 Users - DON'T UPGRADE TO FIREFOX 4 BETA!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Timothy CHAN (Post 848557)
Anyone who could help me to install older version FireFox Mobile back?

TC

Hmm. You installed beta software and now you have question that is on level of user who should not install Beta software.

Makes me wonder.

Browser through here and choose what ever you like:
http://moff.mozilla.com/

.edit
And btw. Before making clown of yourself(referring to thread title) please think next time couple of minutes that there might be other user using n900 and what they are experiencing with it. Meaning that if you find "bug" you could be only one having it or actually you might find out something that all the other users are experiencing also.

So my firefox alpha.Actually itīs on alpha level ROFL. Is loading pages as it should. Still itīs quite slow compared to Opera that pretty much is on different level on speed.

skinny 2010-11-04 09:58

Re: ALERT Nokia N900 Users - DON'T UPGRADE TO FIREFOX 4 BETA!!
 
I think it was your alarmist thread title (not your actual question) that was the problem:
- All caps=>hey my problem is more important than everyone else's "lower-case" problems!
- "DON'T UPGRADE TO FIREFOX 4 BETA!!": How about acknowledging that YMMV? The fewer people that try the beta, the longer it'll take for bugs to be reported and fixed.

jedi 2010-11-04 10:00

Re: ALERT Nokia N900 Users - DON'T UPGRADE TO FIREFOX 4 BETA!!
 
The "sign" is the BETA in the title.

BETA software is intended for people for testing - not for general use by "end users"

fahadj2003 2010-11-04 11:05

Re: ALERT Nokia N900 Users - DON'T UPGRADE TO FIREFOX 4 BETA!!
 
its called "beta" my dear


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