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#9370 2010-10-25 18:08

How to use Dualboot in Pr 1.3?
 
Hello,

I am wondering how I can use the new dualboot feature and install Meego on my N900, like it was announced in this blog: http://meego.com/community/blogs/har...-calling-n900?
Is there a guide/documentation available?

Thanks,
mspoerr

NoX 2010-10-25 18:10

Re: How to use Dualboot in Pr 1.3?
 
I think we will need to wait until this page gets completed:
http://wiki.meego.com/ARM/N900/Install/Dual_Boot

Stskeeps 2010-10-25 18:42

Re: How to use Dualboot in Pr 1.3?
 
MeeGo 1.1 isn't out yet, give us a little bit of time :)

What will happen if things go right:

* Package install from extras-devel that enables the u-boot boot loader.
* Upon startup, if there is a SD card that's bootable, it will boot the SD card, with MeeGo. Otherwise, it will boot Maemo.

More customized setups are possible for the daring.

However. You might need to use a u-boot suitable SD card image and I can't promise it'll be around on exact day of 1.1, but we'll see what we can do.

decibyte 2010-10-25 18:58

Re: How to use Dualboot in Pr 1.3?
 
Stskeeps, Is the dual boot stuff only suited for Meego, or will it also make it easier to install e.g. Ubuntu?

Stskeeps 2010-10-25 20:38

Re: How to use Dualboot in Pr 1.3?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by decibyte (Post 850618)
Stskeeps, Is the dual boot stuff only suited for Meego, or will it also make it easier to install e.g. Ubuntu?

It's suited for any kind of kernel boot.

Dunsurfin 2010-10-25 20:54

Re: How to use Dualboot in Pr 1.3?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Stskeeps (Post 850605)
MeeGo 1.1 isn't out yet, give us a little bit of time :)

What will happen if things go right:

* Package install from extras-devel that enables the u-boot boot loader.
* Upon startup, if there is a SD card that's bootable, it will boot the SD card, with MeeGo. Otherwise, it will boot Maemo.

More customized setups are possible for the daring.

However. You might need to use a u-boot suitable SD card image and I can't promise it'll be around on exact day of 1.1, but we'll see what we can do.

Many thanks - Do you know if this will work for those who have installed NITDroid (which dual boots and resides on the Sd card?

Looking forward to having three great mobile OS's on the N900.

noobmonkey 2010-10-25 20:58

Re: How to use Dualboot in Pr 1.3?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dunsurfin (Post 850719)
Many thanks - Do you know if this will work for those who have installed NITDroid (which dual boots and resides on the Sd card?

Looking forward to having three great mobile OS's on the N900.

different booting system i think? multiboot v uboot?

MartinK 2010-10-25 21:24

Re: How to use Dualboot in Pr 1.3?
 
What about "hold X to boot Maemo/Meego" ? So that its not needed to remove the card each time you want to boot back to Maemo.

bdogg64 2010-10-25 22:22

Re: How to use Dualboot in Pr 1.3?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MartinK (Post 850758)
What about "hold X to boot Maemo/Meego" ? So that its not needed to remove the card each time you want to boot back to Maemo.

I second that. I thought it would be similiar to the bootmenu, but beggars can't be choosey :-)

Jaco2k 2010-10-25 22:30

Re: How to use Dualboot in Pr 1.3?
 
I think that once we get Meego going, it is a safe assumption that no one will have any reason to boot back into Maemo... :D

bdogg64 2010-10-25 22:32

Re: How to use Dualboot in Pr 1.3?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jaco2k (Post 850833)
I think that once we get Meego going, it is a safe assumption that no one will have any reason to boot back into Maemo... :D

Maybe so, but there are a few things missing from Meego 1.1 that might change your mind if you look at the bug list.

Jaco2k 2010-10-25 22:35

Re: How to use Dualboot in Pr 1.3?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bdogg64 (Post 850836)
Maybe so, but there are a few things missing from Meego 1.1 that might change your mind if you look at the bug list.

Where did I write Meego 1.1? :) Of course that if it is unusable it doesn't even count... and then again, if it is unusable, why would you want to dualboot onto it? Maybe once for the curiosity sake...

M_99 2010-10-25 22:54

Re: How to use Dualboot in Pr 1.3?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Stskeeps (Post 850605)
.....Upon startup, if there is a SD card that's bootable, it will boot the SD card, with MeeGo. Otherwise, it will boot Maemo.

More customized setups are possible for the daring.

However. You might need to use a u-boot suitable SD card image and I can't promise it'll be around on exact day of 1.1, but we'll see what we can do.

Is there a wiki somewhere to learn about bootable SD-cards ?
Is it possible to have a bootable partition on existing SD-cards, so you don't have to change cards ?
Will it be possible to unse the second partition with data for both Maemo AND MeeGo (pictures, music etc.) ?

CU - M_99

Stskeeps 2010-10-26 10:18

Re: How to use Dualboot in Pr 1.3?
 
Look mom, no cables!

http://blip.tv/file/4296208

Thanks to ali1234 for the u-boot work and stephg for the video.

SirMuttley 2010-10-26 10:21

Re: How to use Dualboot in Pr 1.3?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jaco2k (Post 850833)
I think that once we get Meego going, it is a safe assumption that no one will have any reason to boot back into Maemo... :D

Unless you want to use you phone for anything.....

gerdich 2010-10-26 10:31

Re: How to use Dualboot in Pr 1.3?
 
I want to reformat:
- the little partition (2GB) with msdos
- the big partition with ext3
like indicated in the maemo wiki.

Is that future save for:
a) dual boot with NitDroid
b) dual boot with Meego
c) possible future releases of Maemo?

...and
Is it possible to dual-boot from a directory of the ext2 partition?

fuyoh 2010-10-26 10:32

Re: How to use Dualboot in Pr 1.3?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Stskeeps (Post 850605)
MeeGo 1.1 isn't out yet, give us a little bit of time :)

What will happen if things go right:

* Package install from extras-devel that enables the u-boot boot loader.
* Upon startup, if there is a SD card that's bootable, it will boot the SD card, with MeeGo. Otherwise, it will boot Maemo.

More customized setups are possible for the daring.

However. You might need to use a u-boot suitable SD card image and I can't promise it'll be around on exact day of 1.1, but we'll see what we can do.

question,

is it possible to boot the kernel from emmc other than maemo ?

lma 2010-10-26 11:44

Re: How to use Dualboot in Pr 1.3?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Stskeeps (Post 850605)
* Package install from extras-devel that enables the u-boot boot loader.

This almost makes me want to go out and buy an N900 :-)

Quote:

* Upon startup, if there is a SD card that's bootable, it will boot the SD card, with MeeGo. Otherwise, it will boot Maemo.
A prompt allowing selection would be nice, having to remove the battery & card every time one wants to switch OS will probably get very old very quickly.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stskeeps (Post 850713)
It's suited for any kind of kernel boot.

If it's using U-Boot it should be suited even for non-Linux OSs (eg *BSD or Symbian if one cares enough to port them).

floffe 2010-10-26 11:50

Re: How to use Dualboot in Pr 1.3?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lma (Post 851782)
A prompt allowing selection would be nice, having to remove the battery & card every time one wants to switch OS will probably get very old very quickly.

You don't have to remove the battery to change the microSD in the N900, only the back cover. You do need to remove the battery to change the SIM card, though.

naturegodtm 2010-10-26 11:51

Re: How to use Dualboot in Pr 1.3?
 
i dont have an sd card. So shall i have to buy one?any suggestions?

lma 2010-10-27 01:10

Re: How to use Dualboot in Pr 1.3?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by floffe (Post 851792)
You don't have to remove the battery to change the microSD in the N900, only the back cover. You do need to remove the battery to change the SIM card, though.

You're right, my mistake (it's been a while)

*the_newbie* 2010-10-28 02:52

Re: How to use Dualboot in Pr 1.3?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Stskeeps (Post 850605)
MeeGo 1.1 isn't out yet, give us a little bit of time :)

What will happen if things go right:

* Package install from extras-devel that enables the u-boot boot loader.
* Upon startup, if there is a SD card that's bootable, it will boot the SD card, with MeeGo. Otherwise, it will boot Maemo.

More customized setups are possible for the daring.

However. You might need to use a u-boot suitable SD card image and I can't promise it'll be around on exact day of 1.1, but we'll see what we can do.

Im a lil' lost here. What package shall I install for the u-boot loader, I have already written meego to a micro sd card, what next?

theonelaw 2010-10-28 02:58

Re: How to use Dualboot in Pr 1.3?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by naturegodtm (Post 851793)
i dont have an sd card. So shall i have to buy one?any suggestions?

get a 16gb class 4 at least if you want some serious space to play with.
They have 32gb and class10 but I haven't seen any at local retail yet.:cool:

cyeung 2010-10-28 03:18

Re: How to use Dualboot in Pr 1.3?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by naturegodtm (Post 851793)
i dont have an sd card. So shall i have to buy one?any suggestions?

I was actually looking into that myself. Here are some search results from my favorite Internet retailer: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...ue=534%3A77855

They are all Class 10 cards, and the 4 GB one looks very cheap.

ruskie 2010-10-28 06:57

Re: How to use Dualboot in Pr 1.3?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jaco2k (Post 850833)
I think that once we get Meego going, it is a safe assumption that no one will have any reason to boot back into Maemo... :D

That's what you think. Maemo UX is still a better general purpose UX than the phone centric MeeGo UX. I'll stick to M5 for the forseeable future. Hopefully there'll be some respins with better UX.


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