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Armand360 2010-10-26 06:00

Apps after PR 1.3 update
 
Hey guys i was just wondering; after the update, did the phone permanently delete all of my installed apps? or did it just hide it or something?

and if it did delete all of my apps, which i don't really mind, did it free my installed apps memory? after the update i only had 1.8gb. is that the standard size after the update? i wouldn't want the update to just hide my old apps, and let it build up and waste my installed apps memory space..

jflatt 2010-10-26 06:03

Re: Apps after PR 1.3 update
 
Did you flash via PC or update OTA?

ossipena 2010-10-26 06:03

Re: Apps after PR 1.3 update
 
1. how did you update


2. give more information

3. give more information

4. give more information

sorry, we can't read your mind here.

!!Nokia N900!! 2010-10-26 06:05

Re: Apps after PR 1.3 update
 
I did via OTA, and nothing been lost. Everything is as it is except some applications where working on Pr1,2 now not working on PR1.3...
tnx

Armand360 2010-10-26 06:28

Re: Apps after PR 1.3 update
 
via PC. sorry for leaving that out.

pankajsays 2010-10-26 06:34

Re: Apps after PR 1.3 update
 
crochil mycontacts not working. does not show any contacts, either in the app or in the widget.

Armand360 2010-10-26 06:36

Re: Apps after PR 1.3 update
 
ohh i thought it was just mine. yeah my mycontacts does not show any contacts either.

jurop88 2010-10-26 06:36

Re: Apps after PR 1.3 update
 
@ armand360
Then yes, all your 'user memory' had been wiped. If you made a backup just prior to update, it is as simple as restore that.

Armand360 2010-10-26 06:47

Re: Apps after PR 1.3 update
 
i did a backup, but all it did was show me a list of all my apps that i have to redownload. which is okay with me. when you say 'user memory had been wipe', did it permanently delete all of it? like there's nothing left behind? don't really like the idea of old files stacking up..

H3llb0und 2010-10-26 07:06

Re: Apps after PR 1.3 update
 
I had to update via PC.
I did make a backup before.

The update wiped my phone completely.
I start to restore the backup, and after maybe 15 minutes of restoring file it PC Suite tells me that "Due to lack of space in the phone memory the following files were copied to your PC..."

And it's a never ending list of files, mostly music and photos.

But where the hell are all my apps?

Also, I open file manager on the phone and it says no files or folders found... :mad:


EDIT: Now I can see and restore all my files and apps...
I was mad there for a moment.
Nokia needs to make this a little more user friendly.

Ele-Mental 2010-10-26 07:07

Re: Apps after PR 1.3 update
 
@Armand360 Are you checking your space with Conky?

HellFlyer 2010-10-26 07:12

Re: Apps after PR 1.3 update
 
anyone else got theme customizer and pleego icons installed without your knowing??? what is going on? I cant remove its icon :(

chealyte 2010-10-26 07:13

Re: Apps after PR 1.3 update
 
how to install meego duel bot with maemo ? i cant see option to do it .. sorry for noob question

gerdich 2010-10-26 07:14

Re: Apps after PR 1.3 update
 
I did my update with "apt-get upgrade"

It worked fine.
(It stopped because there was not enough memory. But after a restart of the update with "dpkg" everything went fine.)

I had to do anothether "apt-get upgrade" for some special applications.

ossipena 2010-10-26 07:33

Re: Apps after PR 1.3 update
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by chealyte (Post 851452)
how to install meego duel bot with maemo ? i cant see option to do it .. sorry for noob question

sorry, your question clearly states that you are not qualified for using the dual boot option. so you should wait until a developer utilizes the dual boot option and uploads an app using it somewhere so you can install it.

ossipena 2010-10-26 07:34

Re: Apps after PR 1.3 update
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Armand360 (Post 851365)
Hey guys i was just wondering; after the update, did the phone permanently delete all of my installed apps? or did it just hide it or something?

and if it did delete all of my apps, which i don't really mind, did it free my installed apps memory? after the update i only had 1.8gb. is that the standard size after the update? i wouldn't want the update to just hide my old apps, and let it build up and waste my installed apps memory space..

yes, apps were permanently deleted. system partition was completely rewritten. (I presume you updated via pc)

so now you have to restore the apps from backup (with HAM) and voila, your custom preferences and settings are still intact.

geneven 2010-10-26 07:46

Re: Apps after PR 1.3 update
 
Here's a weird one.

It appears that I can't add or delete anything but wireless connections in Settings in the Internet Connections area. I have something I called GPRS ipv6 (that's the name I gave the connection) and one called T-Mobile Internet. When I highlight either of them, Delete is grayed out. If I try to add a new connection, I can choose Wireless but not GPRS.

I don't think this was the case before I updated. My connection with the label I created, GPRS ipv6, won't work today. It was working yesterday.

kitwalker 2010-10-26 07:55

Re: Apps after PR 1.3 update
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by geneven (Post 851500)
Here's a weird one.

It appears that I can't add or delete anything but wireless connections in Settings in the Internet Connections area. I have something I called GPRS ipv6 (that's the name I gave the connection) and one called T-Mobile Internet. When I highlight either of them, Delete is grayed out. If I try to add a new connection, I can choose Wireless but not GPRS.

I don't think this was the case before I updated. My connection with the label I created, GPRS ipv6, won't work today. It was working yesterday.

I think that was the case even before PR 1.3. Only wireless connections can be added/modified. For other GPRS/3G connections fAPN was used. It still works after 1.3.

tweakin85 2010-10-26 07:59

Re: Apps after PR 1.3 update
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by geneven (Post 851500)
Here's a weird one.

It appears that I can't add or delete anything but wireless connections in Settings in the Internet Connections area. I have something I called GPRS ipv6 (that's the name I gave the connection) and one called T-Mobile Internet. When I highlight either of them, Delete is grayed out. If I try to add a new connection, I can choose Wireless but not GPRS.

I don't think this was the case before I updated. My connection with the label I created, GPRS ipv6, won't work today. It was working yesterday.

install "FAPN" it lets you create and delete access points (but you can only delete the ones you created) so what evers there will still be there

Armand360 2010-10-26 08:30

Re: Apps after PR 1.3 update
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ele-Mental (Post 851438)
@Armand360 Are you checking your space with Conky?

no, i went to settings and saw my memory there. is the default given installable apps memory 1.8gb?


Quote:

Originally Posted by ossipena (Post 851475)
yes, apps were permanently deleted. system partition was completely rewritten. (I presume you updated via pc)

so now you have to restore the apps from backup (with HAM) and voila, your custom preferences and settings are still intact.

ohh okay. so this phone is almost as new ey? okay thanks. i already download all my apps back. wasn't a lot anyway. just thought there were olds apps piling up without me knowing.

jurop88 2010-10-26 09:29

Re: Apps after PR 1.3 update
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Armand360 (Post 851532)
ohh okay. so this phone is almost as new ey? okay thanks. i already download all my apps back. wasn't a lot anyway. just thought there were olds apps piling up without me knowing.

In simple terms yes, if you upgraded to 1.3 via PC you have the phone in a brand-new-updated state. The backup you did just before upgrading contains every info to restore the apps you used before, so you have to confirm and let the N900 to redownload and reinstall all the old apps for you, and then everything should be fine. It could work not 100% for 'special settings' - let's say if you stay on tracks and don't use extras-testing and extras-devel repositories you are safe, otherwise you have to start to know a little bit more about your N900 ;).

gruik 2010-10-26 09:53

Re: Apps after PR 1.3 update
 
after 1.3 I can't download some files on Ovistore (themes, wallpapers)

pyykkhe 2010-10-26 09:57

Re: Apps after PR 1.3 update
 
Actually, for my understanding, that was Nokia N900 software version 20.2010.36-2, not PR1.3?! Is that true?

Wikiwide 2010-10-26 10:15

Re: Apps after PR 1.3 update
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pyykkhe (Post 851652)
Actually, for my understanding, that was Nokia N900 software version 20.2010.36-2, not PR1.3?! Is that true?

It is PR1.3. You can read here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maemo

Latest stable release 5.0 PR1.3 / 25 October 2010; 0 days ago

20.2010.36-2
October 25 2010
PR1.3,
Qt 4.7.0, Full OVI-Suite support, updated kernel with kexec patches for MeeGo, bug fixes.

Biglines 2010-10-26 10:20

Re: Apps after PR 1.3 update
 
lol at quoting wikipedia as a reliable source of information, you do realize that anyone can put anything on wikipedia right? the edits are even done by someone from the USA, so in all likelyhood not by someone at nokia

HangOver 2010-10-26 10:37

Re: Apps after PR 1.3 update
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Armand360 (Post 851395)
ohh i thought it was just mine. yeah my mycontacts does not show any contacts either.

same here.My contacts list is empty.App himself shown on desktop.
I reinstalled and installed but no changes.
Does somebody had luck and somehow successfully get list back?
:eek:

!!Nokia N900!! 2010-10-26 11:26

Re: Apps after PR 1.3 update
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by HangOver (Post 851713)
same here.My contacts list is empty.App himself shown on desktop.
I reinstalled and installed but no changes.
Does somebody had luck and somehow successfully get list back?
:eek:

Before up-dating, the device will ask you to make a back-up. Did u make 1 ?? ( Hope u did )

joelsk 2010-10-26 11:33

Re: Apps after PR 1.3 update
 
)ust a thought, most of the screw ups seem to be user issues rather than software or hardware. Is there anyway to keep the update instructions on the active topics of the forum during the duration of maemo update (bout a week or so) to help out the noobs?
Thanks.

Wikiwide 2010-10-27 00:03

Re: Apps after PR 1.3 update
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Biglines (Post 851684)
lol at quoting wikipedia as a reliable source of information, you do realize that anyone can put anything on wikipedia right? the edits are even done by someone from the USA, so in all likelyhood not by someone at nokia

First, some of N900 users live in the USA, so someone from the USA can know something about Maemo :).
Second, if the quotes from Wikipedia weren't true, they would be deleted from the article quickly, by anybody who would know that the information isn't true.
Encyclopedia looks like a reliable source of information, even if it is Wikipedia.

Quote:

Originally Posted by joelsk (Post 851762)
)ust a thought, most of the screw ups seem to be user issues rather than software or hardware. Is there anyway to keep the update instructions on the active topics of the forum during the duration of maemo update (bout a week or so) to help out the noobs?
Thanks.

Here is how I have just updated.
1. set up USB Networking (I don't want to flash and erase all the information), with Ubuntu, as I'm too lazy to set it up with Windows;
Read N900 USB Networking in wiki.
http://wiki.maemo.org/N900_USB_networking
1.1. type "ifup usb0"; it should say "already configured";
1.2. type "ping 192.168.2.15"; if it cannot ping, type "ifconfig usb0 192.168.2.15";
1.3. type "ping <some local IP of your LAN>"; if it cannot ping, type "route add default gw 192.168.2.14";
1.4. type "ping google.com"; if it cannot ping, check that your LAN can ping google.com.
1.5 try to set up a dummy network; browser can see the web, Dummy is listed in Internet Connections in Settings, but HAM still cannot see the web because Dummy isn't in the list of suggested connections;
2. apt-get update;
3. apt-get upgrade;
4. apt-get install mp-fremantle-generic-pr;
5. by now you have run out of space, haven't you?
6. apt-get autoremove, apt-get clean, df -h /;
7. try "apt-get -f install mp-fremantle-generic-pr" or something else, don't remember exactly;
8. Success: you can see this line:
Setting up mp-fremantle-generic-pr (20.2010.36-2)
9. Reboot to see new version in About.
10. Contacts and most settings and installed application are intact. Except transitions.ini and unlocked FM transmitter.
If /etc/mce/mce.ini (including LED patterns) was modified, you would be asked whether you want to update it or not; you can make a backup and then update it to the new version (as you don't have diff, you cannot see the differences between your and new versions).
I don't see much immideate improvements; I'm going to change transitions.ini again and return LED patterns.

I'm glad that the update improves battery life and speed in general.
There are about fifty bugs fixed?

neotalk 2010-10-27 00:09

Re: Apps after PR 1.3 update
 
there may be 50 bugs (so they claim) corrected ...but i would guess there are about 100 more bugs created by this update..this update is a disgrace.

geneven 2010-10-27 00:22

Re: Apps after PR 1.3 update
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Biglines (Post 851684)
lol at quoting wikipedia as a reliable source of information, you do realize that anyone can put anything on wikipedia right? the edits are even done by someone from the USA, so in all likelyhood not by someone at nokia

What does "the edits are even done by someone from the USA" mean? Are Wikipedia articles only edited by Americans? I don't think so.

And Wikipedia articles should be sourced and should be fairly reliable. And the assumption that anything posted by someone from Nokia would be totally reliable is of course false.


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