The Playstation Phone
 

Oh. My. God.

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget....1288143278.jpg
http://www.engadget.com/2010/10/26/t...ystation-phone

1GHz Qualcomm MSM8655 (a chip similar to the one found in the G2, but 200MHz faster),
512MB of RAM,
1GB of ROM
3.7 to 4.1 inches

This thing looks very, very good. And Android may get a sudden influx of quality games with playstation officially running on the system.

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Yes, its real.

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I wonder how this compares to the PSP2. I was kinda hoping Sony wouldn't go forth with a PSP Phone and the PSP2. It specs seem to indicate that it's just a phone that looks like a PSP Go that would only play Android games already on the market.

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How big is the battery? It better be big! A "Super Amoled Screen" may help with power consumption. It looks like it will have or emulate "Dual Analog Sticks" with the "Touch Pad Area" which is a much welcome feature! I also hope it's OS "Android 3.0" uses energy effectively because pulling 3g, doing internet, email and all the other "Smart Phone" stuff we enjoy doing then turn on the PSP on the device spells "DOOM" for battery life! Will see!

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hook it up to a car battery !

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This device will likely have a dedicated market offered by Sony for PSPhone games. But, because games are being developed for Android, they will be really easy for developers to port (aka copy) to other devices and/or markets.

This is a very interesting move.

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We may have to the giving the slow implication or use of better batteries in "Smart Phones!"

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Time to cancel my OpenPandora pre-order? Maybe not until this thing is actually shipping, probably an 80% chance that SE will have these things in Australia before OP get my little black obsolete handheld to me.

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Doesn't the slide out feel like its a waste of space?

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Where would you put the PSP controls? Granted I don't think they are needed based on the games.

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Thank you sony, welcome 3ds...
I would surely change my psp for a psp2, not for this...
I already have a tablet pc with phone function ( what?? ) and
a psp with skype, now sony will commit same old mistake ,
many different gadgets that could be a big good one...
Strangely enough, sony already distributed a psp2 sdk
for the companies, so was it really a psp2? 0o
Oh, and don`t forget the size of the games, hope they will be
as big or bigger than umd ones, because I`m tired of good looking
phone games with 10 mins of gameplay...

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Nah apparantly there is a PSP Phone and a PSP2. The PSP2 being the successor to the PSP. While the PSP Phone is some weird offshoot.

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You're right, I'd cancel if I were you. Sucks for OP but I don't sympathize with them, they made so many stupid mistakes and disregarded good suggestions from the pre-orderers, they sort of brought it onto themselves.

I'm pretty certain the new SDK is the PSP2 platform and this is a part of that.
Sony will give the PSPhone access to the Android Market and its own PSN (PlayStation Network).
From there the PSPhone can download:
Android Apps and Games
all of the current games (games that were converted from UMD into a digital download)
PSP Go games (new games available only on the PSP Go)
and new games built for the PSP2 (when the PSP2 is released).

I think Sony will go Apple's route and release the PSPhone first then the PSP2 comparable to the iPhone and the iTouch.
With the PSPhone, Sony and Sony Ericson will make some (a lot) of profit, then they will make the PSP2 available. The PSP2 will likely have less features/connectivity (ie download games via Wifi/PC connection) but will retail cheaper than the PSPhone.
I'm guessing it might be $400 for PSP2 compared to a $1500 phone plan. This approach makes a lot of sense.

-----------------------------------------

My thought's on the PSPhone hardware:

Pretty great but I wished they'd make these tweeks:
(in order of most-to-least important)

1) removable battery (geez that's common sense)
2) HDMI out (without one, I won't buy)
3) Dual-joysticks (not a multitouchpad!!)
4) Tilting action like the N97 (better finger reach for the shoulder buttons)
5) 4 fullsized shoulder buttons (not 2 and volume rocker)
6) 1GB of RAM to remove the bottleneck of 3D games (proof = Galaxy S)

What are you're thoughts??

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You have no idea if there will or will not be a removable battery right?
why do you (or anyone) want HDMI out on a phone? It's running Android so if there's something on it you want to watch just plug it into a PC in mass storage mode.
Yeah, I'm wondering if what look like optical touchpads can ever be as good as OpenPandora's flat analog nubs.
No, tilting isn't required, especially for a gaming device. I've played hours of Advance Wars on my n810 and have never wished for a tilting screen.
No, four shoulder buttons are not required. Very few games need them.
Yes, 512MB of ram is enough. A PS3 only has 256MB of system RAM and 256MB of video RAM and it needs to support 1080p video. A playstation phone won't have a full HD screen so it won't need as much vRAM.

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its now been outed as a fake by many sites in the gaming world
http://www.nowgamer.com/news/4488/so...-phone-is-fake

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Sony not commenting isn't the same as a proclamation that it's fake. It's just that they're not giving up any information -- which any large company would do with the outing of a very unfinished product. It's controlled PR.

Perhaps I'm missing something?

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I think the PSP2 is alot more powerful than the PSP Phone though. So unless its PSP2 arcade titles, something that doesn't use the full resources of the PSP2 I can't imagine any PSP2 titles running on the PSP Phone. What I think Sony has planned for the PSP Phone is..

- Android Games
- UMD games that have been converted to the digital market.
- PSP Phone games?
- maybe PSP2 arcade content (kinda like how Windows Phone 7 has XBOX LIVE Arcade...though it doesn't run any of the arcade games...)

But I hope not. I do hope that the PSP2 is just a cellular less version of the PSP Phone but I don't think it is.

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1) I had a good look on the pictures and it seems like it *may* not have a removable battery. And if Sony do this it would make sense because they did it with the PSP Go to stop people using the PandoraBattery to flash CFW. But Sony has come under high critisizim about copying Apple which put customers to a great disadvantage. All in all, I know nothing about this "prototype" besides Sony's history, current knowledge, and speculations about their implementation.

2) The PSPhone won't have a HDMI-out, or at least this will be disabled for any PlayStation game... they want you to buy a PS3 aswell. I just pray they dont be greedy and leave it in, but that is highly unlikely as I've pointed out.

3) ... tactile response is something we take for granted, and we see its true value when we try to play fps/3d games on Android/iOS/webOS

4) Tilting isn't required ... but man would it be sweet if it was implemented! I mean I have larger hands/fingers and even on the Milestone, hitting the volume rocker with the keyboard out was a chore ... it needs to be easy and comfortable for a true gaming experience (plus the tilt screen is better visible outdoors as sunlight doesn't hit it directly to create the infamous glare)

5) 4 shoulder buttons aren't required ... but man would it be bloody terrific if they were there. I mean, it means so many more ways to interact within games. See this for an example how a 3D dbz game could be implemented nicely if we only had the 2 extra shoulder buttons

6) 512mb for Sony is heaps ... for Android it is not. I mean we will see much more featured Apps on Android and having a larger RAM will make these run much more smoothly especially 3D games. Plus the original PSP launched with internal hardware that was bleeding edge for a couple of years, if the PSPhone only gets 512MB that will never be the case, saddening many fans.

Sorry, that blog was bollocks. I'm siding with Capt'n Corrupt (may I nickname him CC?)

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@kangal

You may!

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As usual Sony Leads the way. I bet Nokia will create some butchered rip off with some lame name like Xpressgames. Just like Nokia copied the Walkman phone with there Xpressmusic phones. Nokia will bang there heads on a table and think to themselves why didn't we design the n-gage this way. It just goes to show you while many companies invent products Sony knows how to make them good. Example Samsung was one of the first companies to make UMPCs however they didn't become desirable until Sony made the made Vaio UX. Before the PSP there were several handheld consoles that tried to challenge Nintendo but almost none were successful until Sony released the PSP which has sold 60 million world wide and remains the most popular non Nintendo game console. There weren't any widely successful 32 bit Cd based game consoles until the Playstation came and the PS2 and PS3 continue to keep legacy widely successful. There weren't really great 12mp camera phones until the Satio hit the market. The list goes on. All I can say is, Go Sony!
Sent from my Vaio UX

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I actually like it but I doubt that it will be able to handle both functions equally, so either it's going to be a bad PSP imitation or a bad smartphone copy.

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Playstation Phone. December 9th. 8:00pm.
http://www.droiddog.com/wp-content/u...hone_dec9.jpeg
http://www.androidcentral.com/playst...ng-dec-9-rumor

If the rumors are true, this means EXTREMELY good things for Android gaming.

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i really like sony,have a sony bravia tv and ps3 bu the sony ericcson phones are just really bad.
they suck in every point........

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Gotta agree the Sony Ericsson Xperia X10 (what-a-mouthful!) is a pretty bad phone for a high-end smartphone.

But the Xperia X10 mini PRO is actually a very good low/midrange smartphone.

I just hope PSP titles will remain exclusive for the PSPhone and not available in the Android Market because if they do that; mark my words they WILL botch it up!

edit: Just saw that link. The rumour may be false. Personally I think it is real, but that Dec 9th date will just be to show off the prototype ... a la an official unveiling. Sony will definitely advertise it in its blits and glamour (and sugar-coat it).

What seems really dumb is that Sony should have unveiled it about June, began the ads in Sep and began selling in late-November for the holiday season. More people with money to throw away at that time = more purchases.

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I think that PSPhone titles will be exclusive to the platform. In this way, developers can MAX out the hardware as with any other platform. What's most interesting, though, is that they'll be developing in Android making porting to the App Market *that* much easier.

I have no doubt that Sony will have some special APIs, or maybe even licenses in place limiting porting. However, as development will be on Android, it will give developers another option for revenue.

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This Playstation will be revolutionary the way that the Walkman phones and Cybershot phones were revolutionary. Before the Walkman phones didn't have stuff like equalizers, decent storage, and durable design (for people who go gyms) etc. Before the Cybershot phones, phones took pictures that looked like crap. I played games on cellphones and the graphics are getting better, but it always leaves you wanting more, controls sucks playing games on a touchscreen is just not very fun, the battery usually only lasts 3 - 4 hours when playing games, and lacks titles you will play for more than 5 minutes just to dick around with, if the Playstation phone can provide most of the things to replace a dedicated portable game system and smartphone, then this thing will be revolutionary like the Walkman and Cybershot phones.

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playstation phone on video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6cxaVRs60w

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Imagine playing emulators on this, awesome.

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I bet Nokia is rushing to make copy of this.

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Here is the application launcher for PSP games http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pafJvpOv7Qw

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The funniest thing about the PSPhone is how people think it is a very genious/revolutionary idea that is ahead of its time.
Before any leak I thought the best device was the Samsung EPIC 4G, and that it needed a few tweaks:
+GSM
+Froyo MIUI ROM
+HDMI
+Volume Rocker & Camera buttons on Right-side (shoulder buttons)
+Dual Nubs and Gamepad (instead of keyboard)
= Gaming Smartphone = PSPhone

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Well, you're right, from a hardware perspective it's not terribly innovative, but that's only if you look at the innovation from a hardware perspective. Hardware is but one small aspect of a system.

Consider the reach, experience, and relationships that Sony has with developers having released extremely popular gaming systems as part of the equation when comparing the modern smartphone to a PSPhone. Consider the experience they have marketing and the established distribution channels. Lastly, consider the power of the Playstation brand, as well unmistakable relationship with gaming. These are entirely business areas of differentiation and are indeed significant.

One could argue that a PSP is little more than an internet tablet with a closed, static UI and gamepad attached. But the difference in positioning and software guarantee that it will be used very, very differently than an internet tablet.

So I would respectfully say Gaming Smartphone != PSPhone.

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Well until the PSP Phone aka Xperia Play was announced, I was very much looking forward to the N9 and the enhancements it was hopefully going to bring to people who own their current 'flagship' phone. I was just thinking today about a) the lack of games b) the lack of turn-by-turn navigation (the only current Nokia phone that doesn't!) c) lack of official MMS support (moot point thanks to fMMS) d) lack of perfectly working videochat d) lack of Maemo's market penetration.

That's not to say I'd rather have another phone at the moment - there is so much more that I love about the N900.

BUT...

Now that the Xperia Play is officially on the scene, and considering that it was the video of the N900 playing Super Mario Bros via video-out, with a Wiimote that hooked me on the phone in the first place, it's pretty clear to me which phone I'm going for next.

And yes I do feel slightly like a traitor - Maemo beats Android imho - but when it comes to technical gratification, them's the rules.

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Yeah but the Xperia Play is a big dissapointment.
It could've been the "Nexus S x iPhone4" killer. But instead it became an "Xperia" instead of a "PlayStation" or a "Sony Ericson" instead of "Sony".

The Sony NGP (aka PSP2) looks very very promising though.

In case there are Sony representatives reading these forums:
Sony, here's what you do, take those great cues from the NGP and apply it to the pitiful Xperia Play and what you get is.... The PlayStation Phone!

Have the PSPhone half the screen resolution of the PSP2 (1600x960 instead of 960x544), and thus needing half the processing power (at games), which means more battery life for other things (like phoning, gps etc).

1) Have beefier specs (800x480 screen, (min)1.2GHz Cortex A8, SGX540, 1GB RAM)
2) Replace the multi-touchpad with dual joysticks from the NGP
3) Include a miniHDMI out between the shoulder buttons

4) Have 4 shoulder buttons (where in Android, the two left's act as volume(up + down), then a customizable one, then the far right is dedicated camera button)
5) Include a larger >1799mAh removable battery
6) Make it more squarish for better hand-grip

7) Move the power button to the left and make it larger
8) Have the back panel come out more comfortably (perhaps like the Captivate)
9) Change name to "The Playstation Phone"

10) Sell the damn thing!

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How is 1600x960 half the resolution of 960x544?

And if that's half... can I borrow money from you?

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This is just an example of what I would say is the correct approach.

PSP2: Quadcore A9 + Best graphics (SGX543MP4) + 2,300mAh battery = min 5hrs usage time.
1600x960 Resolution = great pixel density on 5", plays 720p HD content, can output games at 720/960p.

PSPhone: Dualcore A9 + Beast graphics (SGX540) + 1,800mAh battery = min 7hrs gaming time.
800x480 Resolution = good pixel density on 4", same game from PSP2 can be naturally scaled back (only quarter the resolution) so developers need only to make the game once to target both platforms, allow content played at 720p but not the native games (sluggish response if they're graphic heavy)

Making the PSPhone use less resolution, means less processing power necessary, means less battery drain (and more battery for other tasks like telephone), means smaller battery, means smaller device, means pocket friendly, means a viable solution!

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I still question your math.

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I have a feeling they have two different goals for the Xperia phone and the NGP. NGP is suppose to continue the line of videogame handhelds and given its specs, probably offer console developers a similar platform as the 360/PS3 to port their games from.

While the Xperia phone is meant for PS1 games, and other Android games that other similarly specced Android phones could probably play. So basically the controls would set it apart from other Android phones.

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Who is making this? Sony Japan or SE Sweden?? I think this will be an epic fail... Playstation Gaming has always strickly come directly from Japan. Plus both PS3 and PSP have revolutionary (and exclusive) gaming engine. How can you mix Android with the Playstation brand?! If a true psp-phone should've come out, it should've just been the PSP2. You don't need Android at all, just add your own telephony service to your existing UI and OS and stick with the Playstation Network for the market!

I spit on Sony Ericsson but I bow down to Sony.

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Well they could make an Android Smartphone, put in a locked bootloader (like the Motorola Milestone). Then they could make a program that runs natively on the device but not through Android (so they run side-by-side). This program enters the "Playstation" mode where you play games etc, and since it is not related to Android/Dalvik/java/VM/bullshti the games can be played at a great performance.

:rolleyes: (lol)