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tomchiverton 2010-10-27 10:42

Time scale for UK PR1.3 announced by Nokia
 
Just now on Twitter, Nokia UK said (https://twitter.com/#!/Nokia_UK/status/28877274818) on the subject of a UK version of PR1.3:

"The update will be available within the next couple of weeks. "

Sigh.

strongm 2010-10-27 10:55

Re: Time scale for UK PR1.3 announced by Nokia
 
And their explanation for the delay?

Ginge52 2010-10-27 10:56

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Now, do I wait for this update of reflash to the Global firmware......

tomchiverton 2010-10-27 10:58

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Quote:

Originally Posted by strongm (Post 853170)
And their explanation for the delay?

I asked. No reply yet, and don't really expect one. @nokiahelps have no idea either and @vodafoneuk (after initially pointing me to forums that don't even have a N900 section) have promised to let me know when it's released, but don't have any idea why the delay or when it might be.

Blobster2k 2010-10-27 11:10

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I feel bad for the Nokia team who put their effort in to making the UK variant of the firmware only to keep having it delayed and prompting us guys to reflash to global.

Yes I'm an impatient hypocrite here, I've flashed to global..

tomchiverton 2010-10-27 11:13

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Update from @Nokia_UK "No delay,it's on time-the UK variant of the software must be tested & approved for UK networks before release"

I've asked why it takes the UK longer *than the whole rest of the world*.

ddwwf1 2010-10-27 11:15

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looks like we blame the networks https://twitter.com/Nokia_UK

philh 2010-10-27 11:17

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Quote:

Originally Posted by tomchiverton (Post 853213)
I've asked why it takes the UK longer *than the whole rest of the world*.

Health and Safety. They don't want your N900 to melt in your hand :)

jah25 2010-10-27 11:17

Re: Time scale for UK PR1.3 announced by Nokia
 
I'm in the UK and I flashed to the global firmware to update to 1.3, but now I can't set up Mail for Exchange, doesn't even show up as a choice under service providers. Anybody else have the same problem?

strongm 2010-10-27 11:17

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So have I. Parts of Nokia initially gave this excuse with the previous delayed UK firmware, before falliing back on it being an issue on getting the images onto the right servers (essentially saying the Uk part of Nokia were incompetent ...)

strongm 2010-10-27 11:21

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ddwwf1 (Post 853215)
looks like we blame the networks https://twitter.com/Nokia_UK

Easiest route for Nokia: "it's not our fault". Many of we UK users are on generic UK firmware, not a branded carrier version. They release a seperate version for Vodafone, sure, but if I'm not on a Vodafone handset I shouldn't have to wait for Vodafone's approval.

tomchiverton 2010-10-27 11:22

Re: Time scale for UK PR1.3 announced by Nokia
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jah25 (Post 853219)
I'm in the UK and I flashed to the global firmware to update to 1.3, but now I can't set up Mail for Exchange, doesn't even show up as a choice under service providers. Anybody else have the same problem?

I think you want a different thread :-)

mrsellout 2010-10-27 11:28

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I like the fact that they actually announced the release yesterday...
Quote:

Great new Nokia N900 software update available http://bit.ly/bSHgOi
but we still can't get it. I wish I'd installed the leaked version last week. It's not on really that they haven't got a UK version considering we're in week 43 now and the release is from week 36.
I'm going to flash the global firmware.

jah25 2010-10-27 11:39

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Quote:

Originally Posted by tomchiverton (Post 853231)
I think you want a different thread :-)

Not really sure where to put my question, my initial thought is that Vodafone's not recognizing my phone since I'm on a different firmware, if that's the case then my comment could help folks in this thread find a reason for the delay, no?

bill.d 2010-10-27 11:44

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i was on vodafone firmware i reflashed too uk firmware during the 1.1.1 update due to vodafone sucking. on monday when uk version wasnt reliesed i flashed to the global version :D i see no differance at all between the two versions content wise but 1.3 is sweet as now my phone is a damn sight faster than ever before:D i advice people just to flash global theres no piont getting frustrated over uk and vodafone versions.

bill.d 2010-10-27 11:48

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vodafone are probably applying presure on nokia to get skype removed ,they have been wanting it gone from the n900 since forever:Pmaybe nokia have caved in on the uk version :P

DJRedline 2010-10-27 11:49

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jah25 (Post 853263)
Not really sure where to put my question, my initial thought is that Vodafone's not recognizing my phone since I'm on a different firmware, if that's the case then my comment could help folks in this thread find a reason for the delay, no?

This could explain my issue, i have flashed global firmaware and every reboot i lose my contacts. Hopefully the UK firmware will resolve this, but i doubt it.

bill.d 2010-10-27 11:52

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DJRedline (Post 853281)
This could explain my issue, i have flashed global firmaware and every reboot i lose my contacts. Hopefully the UK firmware will resolve this, but i doubt it.

im on vodafone network but reflashed global . im not losing my contacts on reboot and mail for exchange is still there and working in fact everything works better and faster than before maybe you need to flash again

tomchiverton 2010-10-27 11:53

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Quote:

Originally Posted by bill.d (Post 853278)
vodafone are probably applying presure on nokia to get skype removed ,they have been wanting it gone from the n900 since forever:Pmaybe nokia have caved in on the uk version :P

Vodafone would get some serious stick for removing a feature without warning, as Sony did with Playstation firmware changes etc.
There isn't a way to provide very much in the way of detail in the upgrade message itself, so they'd be restricted to a popup post-install, when it's too late.

But we stray from the point :-)

pentetic 2010-10-27 19:17

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It seems to me Nokia have already released the UK version.......the global release! Don't see why Nokia would make the UK any different so likelihood it is the networks.
After the fiasco of PR1.2 for us Vodafone customers most of us have probably experienced flashing before anyway.

So why the hold up?

If memory serves PR1.2 was released in the UK first so no reason for 1.3 to be delayed.

Conclusion......it is the networks.

If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck.............its probably a duck!

I wouldn't be surprised if its Vodafone's 'check' process that is holding it up for all.

Lets save the Nokia bashing for something worthwhile and put this one firmly in the networks court!

Livinmalife 2010-10-27 19:37

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Voda sucks length...!
I want porn on my phone I have to call em up and ask them to activiate it... "Hi can You please enable my porn, Im 25".
I want to dial an 09... number, I have to phone Voda for permision to activiate it....

Ball bags!

Alex Atkin UK 2010-10-27 22:46

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I have been on O2, T-Mobile, Vodafone and Three. As I recall all of those networks block certain sites/services by default and you have to ask for the content lock to be removed, so your argument is flawed on those grounds.

Voda do suck though, I never had such a hard time making/receiving calls as when I was on Voda, but that might have been the crappy handset they gave me on that contract. It would ALWAYS claim a 3G signal and then right in the middle of a call drop to 2G and instead of switching gracefully it would cut off my call.

strongm 2010-10-28 11:43

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Quote:

Originally Posted by pentetic (Post 854056)
Conclusion......it is the networks.
...
I wouldn't be surprised if its Vodafone's 'check' process that is holding it up for all.

<ahem> Many UK N900 users have completely unbranded N900s running a generic UK firmware. And many don't use Vodafone as their service provider. And Vodafone have their own version of the firmware. So why would a Vodafone delay (for 'checking/approval' or whatever) delay all the non-Vodafone UK firmware?

OxfordJohn 2010-10-28 12:06

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jah25 (Post 853219)
I'm in the UK and I flashed to the global firmware to update to 1.3, but now I can't set up Mail for Exchange, doesn't even show up as a choice under service providers. Anybody else have the same problem?

I'm also in the UK. The N900 came from CPW, bundled with an O2 SIM but used only on 3. The ota update installed first thing on Tuesday and MfE appears to be fine - the option appears in both Setup and Email\NewAccount.
OJ

marcsony 2010-10-28 12:15

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well guys i just got a message from nokia saying the update for MY software was available. so i checked got no update showing lol, least i got a message tho. im uk unbranded o2 sim.

geneven 2010-10-28 12:17

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Quote:

Originally Posted by strongm (Post 855061)
<ahem> Many UK N900 users have completely unbranded N900s running a generic UK firmware. And many don't use Vodafone as their service provider. And Vodafone have their own version of the firmware. So why would a Vodafone delay (for 'checking/approval' or whatever) delay all the non-Vodafone UK firmware?

And why are you guys using UK firmware at all? Can't you just flash global firmware and be done waiting?

ddwwf1 2010-10-28 12:18

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Quote:

Originally Posted by marcsony (Post 855118)
well guys i just got a message from nokia saying the update for MY software was available. so i checked got no update showing lol, least i got a message tho. im uk unbranded o2 sim.

same here got the message checked app manager no update unbranded N900 with giff gaff sim

buchanmilne 2010-10-28 12:24

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How about this

(after editing /etc/apt/sources.list.d/hildon-application-manager.list to replace 205 with mr0) ?

anandv76 2010-10-28 12:26

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no message for me yet, unbranded sim-free UK handset...and certainly no update yet..

marcsony 2010-10-28 12:30

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I must be in favor with nokia i got the message sent to me twice now whoo hoo. still no update tho.

ddwwf1 2010-10-28 12:30

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Quote:

Originally Posted by anandv76 (Post 855132)
no message for me yet, unbranded sim-free UK handset...and certainly no update yet..

it was a sms message if u r sim free explains why you avent had the message

vkv.raju 2010-10-28 12:36

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Whats so special in the UK firmware version that you absolutely need to wait for it and not flash to the Global version?

I don't know whats the cause for delay from Nokia's end but what is stopping you from flashing your N900 with the Global version? Just curious.

matar 2010-10-28 12:46

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got the message in uk

Rob1n 2010-10-28 12:57

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Quote:

Originally Posted by vkv.raju (Post 855153)
Whats so special in the UK firmware version that you absolutely need to wait for it and not flash to the Global version?

I don't know whats the cause for delay from Nokia's end but what is stopping you from flashing your N900 with the Global version? Just curious.

What's stopping me reflashing is the need to reinstall everything and redo all the customisation settings. I'm quite happy to wait though - I'm not hearing of anything worth the extra effort to get PR1.3 for. Next time I brick the phone I'll reflash with the global version though (if BackupMenu fails to recover anyway).

wraggieone 2010-10-28 14:42

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Dude!!

The uk wait really has nothing to do with your network unless you are running a vodafone ROM!

There are generic versions for various regions, I'm unbranded and running the generic uk variant of 1.2. This build has not been updated yet for some reason (Nokia do move in mysterious ways). Being in the UK it just seemed to make sense to flash that version to my handset. Obviously if i have to wait too long i'd concider doin the global update, but i'm sure there some minor differences in regards to wifi fequencies between the global & UK version, dunno how much diff it would make tho.

Wraggieone

Tedri Mark 2010-10-28 14:49

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I tto got a text telling me to go to nokia.co.uk/softwareupdate, which says latest version is 20.2010... etc. However, software updater reports that i have 10.2010 installed, and latest version available is 10.2010... so I have the latest version...

I guess I'll wait a bit..

theonelaw 2010-10-28 14:50

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Mi6 regards anyone who owns uses or even considers using an n900
as suspicious and possibly dangerous elements needing extensive surveillance.:eek:
it takes quite a bit of time to gear up the machine when the rules change.

As if you did not have enough pubic cams in the uk already :D

strongm 2010-10-28 14:55

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Quote:

Originally Posted by buchanmilne (Post 855128)
How about this

(after editing /etc/apt/sources.list.d/hildon-application-manager.list to replace 205 with mr0) ?

Coo, does that actually work? Hmmm ...

sophocha 2010-10-28 14:59

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first thing I`ve done when I got my N900 was to flash the global version, no more waiting for the UK firmware :)

buchanmilne 2010-10-28 15:33

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Quote:

Originally Posted by strongm (Post 855374)
Coo, does that actually work? Hmmm ...

Package downloads have completed ... it's currently upgrading packages ...


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