my N900 doesn't turn on anymore!!
 

hello guys

this morning I was trying to turn on my phone,but it keeps showing the nokia logo and then turn off,the only way to make it stop is to take off the battery!


I updated to firmware 1.3 as soon as it come out,I did't have problem the i installed the titan s kernel and my touch screen went crazy,so last night i took it off and now my phone doesn't turn on anymore :-(


what should I do??I'm lost!!!

Re: my N900 doesn't turn on anymore!!
 

I'd probably charge it up first and see what's going on.

If even then you can't turn it on, it would be time to flash the device =/

Re: my N900 doesn't turn on anymore!!
 

well I'm trying to charge it but it turns on and off . .

how do i flash the phone?

do I lose everything inside??

Re: my N900 doesn't turn on anymore!!
 

flash the old kernel.
if the kernel is messed up the phone obviously can't start
[no you don't loose everything if you only flash the kernel as long there are nothing else was affected by your install]
br

Re: my N900 doesn't turn on anymore!!
 

how do i do it???


thanks

Re: my N900 doesn't turn on anymore!!
 

take a good guess what your previous kernel was (any you had on the system for which you didn't deinstall the modules - if you don't know: try and pray )

download it from the repository.

http://repository.maemo.org/ (i never remeber there was one with the kernels as images. but if not you can use ar to open the deb and will find the fiasko in the deb)

flash it.
http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware
(the description should guide you just remamber that only want to flash the kernel so you need the "-k" !)

Re: my N900 doesn't turn on anymore!!
 

Re: my N900 doesn't turn on anymore!!
 

first off, plug the n900 into a pc via usb, this will mount it as mass storage, transfer any backups or anything valuable to the pc. Just in case.

then use the power search to search for the updating wiki.
download the firmware you require (go with PR1.3 if unsure) and flash your firmware.

if this works, brilliant, your good to go. you should still have all messages, phone numbers etc in tact.

if this doesnt work, you may have to flash the eMMC aswell, that will erase all messages, numbers etc, thats where the backup you (hopefully) transfered to your pc comes in.

transfer that backup back to your nice fresh working phone and use the backup utility to restore it.

Re: my N900 doesn't turn on anymore!!
 

the op doesn't want to flash the firmware if possible. he doesn't want to loose data! he wants to try to flash /only the kernel/ if possibly. backup is a good idea in any case.

Re: my N900 doesn't turn on anymore!!
 

depending on his results he may have to flash eMMC too, as I stated!

Re: my N900 doesn't turn on anymore!!
 

well its up to the op. dont want to fight about this.
just want to have the warning out: flashing the firmware and not just the kernel, you might loose data. so i suggest don't use a firmware image. use a kernelimage instead, so you know which kernel you install and flash it with the -k option. and try that with any kernel you had on the system.

only if that doesn't work head for a firmware update.

Re: my N900 doesn't turn on anymore!!
 

guys i Had the last titan's kernel then I took it of and went back to the original one . .
after that I turned of my phone for the first time it's giving me this problem!

I'm trying to download the flasher and the last firmware but it gives me always error :-(

Re: my N900 doesn't turn on anymore!!
 

not sure we're on the same page, sorry if that came accross as abbrupt.

flashing just the kernel is a great idea if the OP is up to that, which is why I suggested flashing firmware, this will not erase data, only installed programs.

flashing the emmc will erase data, I advised this only if flashing firmware didnt work, this would be the case if the OP was still on PR1.1.1 as PR1.2 and 3 require a different emmc image and the device still may not boot, if this were the case, the only solution would be to flash the emmc.

kernel and firmware are 2 different things, emmc is another entirely separate thing.

Re: my N900 doesn't turn on anymore!!
 

so download the titan kernel, if necessary open the deb an take out the kernel(using ar and tar).

then use you flasher:

flasher-3.5 -f -k yourkernelimage

it will say that it has no suitable device so you take out the battery from your phone and disconnect it from the usb.
put the battery back in and plug in the usb.
and see how the phone starts and gets flushed.

if it worked well do a
flasher-3.5 --reboot

and see if it comes up with the kernel.

if it doesn't flash try to fiddle with the order of taking out the battery and usb and putting it back.

if the kernel dosn't work try the maemo-omap1 kernel and repeat the procedure.
hth

Re: my N900 doesn't turn on anymore!!
 

the site is down for now so u won't be able to download

Re: my N900 doesn't turn on anymore!!
 

thing is two post below you i stated if he flashes only the kernel he won't lose data. now you came with the post about flashing firmware. so it was important to me to make clear that this is a different issue.

if he had the omap kernel you may be right that it is the same as on the image if he had on the other hand the titan kernel that was working than it is different.

but like i said: it is completely up to the op and this is not about fighting you its just for the obove mentiond thing that i told he won't lose data and with the firmware he might(at least software). i just wanted to have the warning out.

Re: my N900 doesn't turn on anymore!!
 

Mine would not switch on or charge - I didnt need to flash it or plug it into my pc - I I just took the battery out and the put it back in whilst keeping U pressed down on the keyboard

Mine worked doing this

Re: my N900 doesn't turn on anymore!!
 

Please seeing that I never did it,could you explain to me step by step?

where do I get the titan s kernel<

and where the flasher to use it?it workns on windows 64?

thanks

Re: my N900 doesn't turn on anymore!!
 

the server is down. sry can't help that.

Re: my N900 doesn't turn on anymore!!
 

hello Guys the server is now working

i downloaded and installed the flasher and the last pr 1.3 USA,instead of installing on my laptop windows 64 i used the one of my gf with windows 32


i start the flasher

press the u key the phne is connected as usb paste the comand

flasher-3.5.exe -F RX-51_2009SE_20.2010.36-2.002_PR_COMBINED_002_ARM.bin

press enter

then a new window come up for few second and disappear

what did I do wrong??


thanks

Re: my N900 doesn't turn on anymore!!
 

You should use:
flasher-3.5.exe -F RX-51_2009SE_20.2010.36-2.002_PR_COMBINED_002_ARM.bin -f

and if you want it to reboot after that, tag on a -R at the end of that command:

flasher-3.5.exe -F RX-51_2009SE_20.2010.36-2.002_PR_COMBINED_002_ARM.bin -f -R

Re: my N900 doesn't turn on anymore!!
 

ohh you flashed the whole phone if it worked. it should come up just fine. after a flasher-3.5.exe --reboot. but with everything set back to factory settings.

Re: my N900 doesn't turn on anymore!!
 

guys if i flash it do i lose everything inside??

Re: my N900 doesn't turn on anymore!!
 

where do i find the original kernel image just to flash that?

I can't lose all my things on the phone

thanks

Re: my N900 doesn't turn on anymore!!
 

Don't quote me on this but:

If you flash just the FIASCO(RX-51_2009SE_20.2010.36-2.002_PR_COMBINED_002_ARM.bin) or whatever it is referred to as, it'll upgrade the OS.
If you flash the EMMC(RX-51_2009SE_10.2010.13-2.VANILLA_PR_EMMC_MR0_ARM.bin) though, that should erase all your pictures/contacts/settings.


I'm pretty sure that your FIASCO install will kill all your installed programs though since I JUST did that. Make a backup of them if possible.
I tried to flash the EMMC but it wont let me. After my FIASCO install I booted back into Maemo after a failed EMMC install and I still had all my contacts/pictures but all my settings were gone.

Re: my N900 doesn't turn on anymore!!
 

we had it before.
if you flash you override something. and that is lost.

if you flash the kernel, the old kernel is lost.

if you flash the firmware: the firmware is lost(that is part of the software) with the firmware you also flash the kernel. (your settings dont work for the underlying is gone)

if you flash emmc: all your settings are gone and you can't do it without flashing the firmware as well.


clarified?

Re: my N900 doesn't turn on anymore!!
 

Check out this url for any doubts. http://www.maemofanatics.com/how-to-...ur-nokia-n900/ Hope it clears ur doubts :)

Re: my N900 doesn't turn on anymore!!
 

guys please I jusr wanna flash the kernel bc i dony wana lose the application,in one of them I have all my credit card information and if I lose it i can t get anymore my credit card code . .

so or i do a backup or just flash the kernel but how do i do it??


thanks

Re: my N900 doesn't turn on anymore!!
 

just as you find it in the(now) many descriptions. only ad a -k to the line.

the way i do it is
(this is only the kernel)
flasher-3.5 -f -k kernelimage -R

kernel in a fiasko you need the big F
flasher-3.5 -F <firmware-image> --flash-only=kernel -f -R
(the -R is to reboot)


a hint:
they always say press the "u" button and have the phone waiting with the usb symbol and after that use the flash utility.
while that is perfectly ok i found reversed order is easier to handle.
so as a hint: first go to your pc and type the whole flasher line in and press enter. now it will say that it has no device and is waiting for a device to appear. keep it in this state. let it wait as long as you need for the phone. that way you have plenty of time(as long as it takes) to fiddle with your device to get it in the state needed. you usually don't even have to press the u button just let it boot connected with the pc as the utility is eager waiting for the momment to flash the phone and will do it as soon as it is possible.


EDIT: do as many backups as you can. never leave a chance out to do a backup. better safe than sorry!

Re: my N900 doesn't turn on anymore!!
 

thanks but where is kernelimage or firmware image should I leave it like that or put something?

Re: my N900 doesn't turn on anymore!!
 

you will have to replace that name with the actual filename including path if it is in a different directory

as in the description firmware images are:
http://tablets-dev.nokia.com/nokia_N900.php
and for uk(i don't know what is special about uk but..)
http://wiki.maemo.org/Maemo_UK_variant_firmware
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otherwise

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you find all kernel in the repository
http://repository.maemo.org/

e.g. the standard kernel:
http://repository.maemo.org/pool/fre...free/k/kernel/
if you like me to lazy to search for the fiasko(it is somwhere.. ) you do:
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ar kernelwhatever.deb
chdir kernelwhatever
tar xzf data.tar.gz
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OR you just use some grafical unpack program like winrar or whatever you have that can unpack ar and tar(same copression type) to get the fiasko out of the deb. (this is click-click.. done)

Re: my N900 doesn't turn on anymore!!
 

I guess I'm almost there :-)

but in the page of the kernels i don't know what to get,there are so many . .
is it this one the good one

kernel_2.6.28.orig.tar.gz

then once that I unrar it what should i do?

sorry i know I'm very bad!

Re: my N900 doesn't turn on anymore!!
 

if you found the fiaskos you are fine and don't need to unpack anything. flash.

like i said i just don't want to search where they hide them(i know it exists). so only because of that i use the debian package. there is nothing mysterious or special about a .deb its just like a zip or rar. you have to unpack it like you unpack a zip. twice.
my world is 80X25 in black and white, so i do it on the command line. you can do it with whatever you are used to(i think winrar does it).

Re: my N900 doesn't turn on anymore!!
 

it worksssssssssssssssssssss . . thak you so much!!!!!!!

Re: my N900 doesn't turn on anymore!!
 

well, easy enough?

wait! now your phone works again. but you made it work behind its back. nobody likes things happening behind ones back neither do phones.

go to the programmanager and install the kernel you just flashed.
might sound dangerous after your expierience but you want the system to be completely in a sane state. otherwise in a couple of days/weeks the thing updates and the other kernel that gave you the trouble gets installed again half ways as you had it. you don't want that.