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techngro 2010-11-11 18:30

Well, it was fun while it lasted...sorta
 
So I've been complaining about my N900 for months now. Not because of the phone itself, but because of the craptastic OS and the lack of support from Nokia.

Well I finally did something about it. I bought a Motorola Cliq today, and I am selling my N900. After playing with the Cliq for all of 45 minutes, I have zero regrets about making the change. Its amazing what a decent OS can do for a device. Despite the hardware on the N900 being far superior to that of the Cliq, the Cliq is snappier to use, and because its running Android, it just works.

As an illustration, I opened up the maps app and it found my location in a few seconds. Then I searched for something and, unlike the N900, it didn't give me a location in Ohio (I am in NYC incedentally). "Little" things like that really turned me off from the N900.

Well, at least I'm not eating a huge loss, as I bought mine second hand.

So this is a kind of farewell. Some of you on this board are extremely helpful and I thank you. Many others (and you know who you are) are simply fanboys who can't let a single criticism of Maemo, the device, or Nokia appear in a thread without attacking someone. I would especially like to thank the NITDroid people, as you made my last month or so with the N900 bearable.

Live strong and prosper.
Techngro

James_Littler 2010-11-11 19:02

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Well done you... do you want a medal or something!

So let me get this straight...you didn't like the OS, fine, each to their own. But how do you justify your claim/oppinion that maemo5 is craptastic?
The openness is brilliant, any problems you had, I'm sure could have been fixed.

Your point about maps is fair, OVI maps 1.1 or whatever we have is very poor. Sygic on the other hand is brilliant, I find it faster than my tom tom and simply don't bother with a dedicated sat nav any more.

I really hope you don't think I'm a fanboi, I hate Nokia too for their lack of support and general crapness but the N900 is a truly wicked device. There is so much you can do with this little thing.

If you just want a phone then fine, I'd say this isn't the phone for you. If on the other hand you want a netbook/call and text making device/addiction/vice/love? then there is no better, nay, no OTHER.

etuoyo 2010-11-11 19:05

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Very brave of you to post this here. If you are lucky this thread will just die. Otherwise you are going to get lynched.

Shame the N900 did not work out for you. Know what you mean though. Maemo 5 is a bug fest and too many things that don't work well. Disagree with you that it is a crap OS though. If you want a phone that just works then yeah you'd hate it. If like me you enjoy cutomising and tweaking you'd love it. That is why I can never recommend the N900 to anyone other than my enemies but for me I absolutely love it. Yes I wished it could be smooth and like HTC Desire for example but the ability to tweak everything more than makes up for that.

cfh11 2010-11-11 19:28

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If you bought a Cliq and you don't regret it, then the n900 was never for you to begin with. What a piece of **** that phone is...

extendedping 2010-11-11 19:29

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when all is said and done, I wanted a bash shell to learn scripting in my pocket (as of pr 1.3 I now have user and root running bash and all gnu (non busy box) stuff at the front of my path. I also wanted to have a nice ereader which I did not have. Rob1n is fixing that daily with fbreader.

funny thing is even with nokia being a disgrace for the way they have supported the device, I don't see anything else that could fit my needs.

oh and just because it has to be said (its a tradition around here)...

don't let the door hit you on the way out. best of luck...

ch88xy 2010-11-11 19:48

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I can sympathize with the OP. I too may get rid of my N900, but not because I fell in love with an Android. The reason is rather I am going back to my N810, which has been gathering dust for a few months. Although it is not perfect (can only stream a handful of live TV shows reasonably well), it fulfills all my needs satisfactorily: Web browsing, RSS, streamtuner, MPlayer/Media player for pre-recorded videos, DialCentral, FBReader, SDict Viewer, Gjiten, mClock, etc. Not to mention that there is no need to zoom in and out all the time, and copy-paste is straightforward, etc. Really the only advantage that N900 has (for me personally) is the faster processor that streams most mms feeds smoothly.

danramos 2010-11-11 19:54

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cfh11 (Post 870676)
If you bought a Cliq and you don't regret it, then the n900 was never for you to begin with. What a piece of **** that phone is...

Well, many people keep claiming the N900 wasn't a phone--it's a computer, so of course it's a crap phone. I agree, though, if what he wanted was a good, solid PHONE with some computer-like functionality and apps, the Androids are far better for him.

Welcome to the Android army, techngro. I hope we meet up again sometime in those forums. :)

Dave999 2010-11-11 19:58

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the fun has just begun.

...and its a phone.

aligatro 2010-11-11 20:04

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If you don't like maemo then why did you buy n900? Usually people research first and then buy the product, not the other way around.

atilla 2010-11-11 20:05

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http://jfcbookstore.org/images/Round1.jpg

danramos 2010-11-11 20:06

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Quote:

Originally Posted by aligatro (Post 870713)
If you don't like maemo then why did you buy n900? Usually people research first and then buy the product, not the other way around.

Everybody take a drink!

atilla 2010-11-11 20:07

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Quote:

Originally Posted by danramos (Post 870716)
Everybody take a drink!

says the godfather of n900 smashing?
;)

roger_27 2010-11-11 20:12

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well thanks for making a respectable criticism of the OS.

most of the time it's vague "It was crappy since day 1 I f*cking hated it. and nokia just abandoned us. bla bla bla"

You clearly state it's the little things that matter, and you can't argue with that.

I respect Android very much, but unfortunately not Motorola. haha.

Good Luck!

raptoro07 2010-11-11 20:21

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Uhhhh.... Points about the N900, Maemo, and Nokia aside. REALLY?!?!?!?!?! Going from a N900 to a Cliq is about the phone hardware equivalent of going from a BMW to a Chevy Aveo. Plus Android is fun and nice (I've had a couple), but Android with Moto Blur all over is terrible. Nextime at least get a real smartphone before bragging about leaving Nokia to something else.

slender 2010-11-11 20:29

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Maemo OS != Ovi maps
And about support. What is current time-frame for next n+1 updates to your Motorola cliq? Does it have official OTA update to Froyo?

.edit
In some prospect I find it funny that you call people who dare to question and argue against critique made by other users fanboys. Same time you fall in your own trap by attacking towards some non existent spaghetti monster :|

I´m glad that you have found device that fits your needs. Best feedback in the world! If x doesn´t fit your needs change it asap. Take this as lesson.

leetut 2010-11-11 20:30

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all traitors must be shot!

NOMOS 2010-11-11 20:33

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Let me just try and understand this here. If people say goodbye, because they are moving on, and realised the N900 was not the perfect device, that should be perfectly fine.

But, what exactly is the value of people that already have moved elsewhere, to come over here and spread negativity?

I for one do like the N900 a lot, but I am just amazed to see people here that dont like the device. Why be here? I dont get it.

danramos 2010-11-11 20:41

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Quote:

Originally Posted by atilla (Post 870720)
says the godfather of n900 smashing?
;)

Says the... face of.. being smashed! YEAH! ;) Whoo.. maybe taking too many drinks, hanging around this thread.

riverus 2010-11-11 21:16

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cfh11 (Post 870676)
If you bought a Cliq and you don't regret it, then the n900 was never for you to begin with. What a piece of **** that phone is...

Totally agree with you, N900 is not a really good phone, but Cliq is worse, :(, it is just a piece of crap.

ear0wax 2010-11-11 21:19

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And I wonder why this post even made it to the forum when its against the rules.

Quote:

  • No Trolling
A post that is solely intended to incite controversy or conflict, or cause annoyance or offense is considered "trolling". These posts will only lead to personal attacks and emotional outbursts from other members, which results in an unhealthy atmosphere.

cfh11 2010-11-11 21:25

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Quote:

Originally Posted by riverus (Post 870783)
Totally agree with you, N900 is not a really good phone, but Cliq is worse, :(, it is just a piece of crap.

Ummm.... I think my post was misunderstood. I am saying the Cliq is a god awful phone, not the n900.

Texrat 2010-11-11 21:27

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Some things the N900 does extremely well.

Some (like Ovi Maps) need major help.

I still have yet to find that ultimate, perfect device though.

danramos 2010-11-11 21:28

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ear0wax (Post 870785)
And I wonder why this post even made it to the forum when its against the rules.

AW CRAP! It's the fuzz! CHEESE IT!
http://www.luiscordero.com/bender/ma...r_de_abajo.jpg

Texrat 2010-11-11 21:29

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Quote:

Originally Posted by atilla (Post 870720)
says the godfather of n900 smashing?
;)

We need a separate thread: "Find danramos a new hobby". :D

danramos 2010-11-11 21:29

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Texrat (Post 870797)
We need a separate thread: "Find danramos a new hobby". :D

Wasn't that the drinking game thread? :)

Radicalz38 2010-11-11 21:44

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Something to say about the n900... Don't use xterm, don't modify it, don't install custom stuffs in there. Then good luck bricking your n900. It should be stable as it is. Doing such stuffs on android would lead you also to the same situation as with n900(That is if you can do most of it on android?). And about the apps well all I could say maps isn't everything on a smartphone.

Swear, tear and beat the crap out of nokia & I won't mind. But on n900? That's a different situation :p

Texrat 2010-11-11 21:45

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Quote:

Originally Posted by danramos (Post 870798)
Wasn't that the drinking game thread? :)

If so, it didn't stick! :p

geneven 2010-11-11 22:03

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Quote:

Originally Posted by etuoyo (Post 870646)
Very brave of you to post this here. If you are lucky this thread will just die. Otherwise you are going to get lynched.

If it's brave of him to post this, it must have been super-extraordinarily brave plus for the other hundreds who have posted almost identical messages.

danramos 2010-11-11 22:10

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Quote:

Originally Posted by geneven (Post 870825)
If it's brave of him to post this, it must have been super-extraordinarily brave plus for the other hundreds who have posted almost identical messages.

But then, why are you helping to keep the thread alive by posting to it? I'm always impressed by the criticism that the original post is pointless, when your follow-up is to point out the pointlessness, thereby making the reply far more pointless than the original posting. :)

geneven 2010-11-11 22:25

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Quote:

Originally Posted by danramos (Post 870836)
But then, why are you helping to keep the thread alive by posting to it? I'm always impressed by the criticism that the original post is pointless, when your follow-up is to point out the pointlessness, thereby making the reply far more pointless than the original posting. :)

Maybe when you learn to read you will notice that my post didn't say one single word about pointlessness or posting or keeping threads alive. It addressed your statement that the OP was brave. I disagreed.

Please explain what your response had to do with what I said.

danramos 2010-11-11 22:26

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Quote:

Originally Posted by geneven (Post 870850)
Maybe when you learn to read you will notice that my post didn't say one single word about pointlessness or posting or keeping threads alive. It addressed your statement that the OP was brave. I disagreed.

Please explain what your response had to do with what I said.

Ah, I see. So, you didn't imply it? I'm sorry for misunderstanding your context. Nope--totally misread it. You're right.

Texrat 2010-11-11 22:35

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Fighting on an internet forum is pointless. ;)

cfh11 2010-11-11 22:36

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http://scienceblogs.com/sunclipse/siwoti-cat.png

geneven 2010-11-11 22:39

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I don't think it's pointless, you're full of it!!

Texrat 2010-11-11 22:44

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Quote:

Originally Posted by geneven (Post 870862)
I don't think it's pointless, you're full of it!!

feh-- Search failed to turn up the infamous "Outside" thread.

Wait-- did you just make a joke??? :eek:

danramos 2010-11-11 22:53

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Wait! Hold up! Is the original poster even going to come back to read this thread and the enormous discussion that he's opened up?? If not, then this is pointless-thread++

Texrat 2010-11-11 23:06

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Quote:

Originally Posted by danramos (Post 870875)
Wait! Hold up! Is the original poster even going to come back to read this thread and the enormous discussion that he's opened up?? If not, then this is pointless-thread++

The most pointless comment made yet.

RobbieThe1st 2010-11-11 23:26

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Hey, this is the Nokia n900 forum. We -thrive- on pointless!

OP wise, I've got the -perfect- phone: Nokia 1100. It's near indestructable(drop it ten feet, no worries), excellent battery life, and does quite well for a phone!

mrexcess 2010-11-11 23:43

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one in one out :p

no offense meant ... but communities like this thrive from the influx of new members as well as the departure of those less delighted with the devices, and theres still new people getting n900 all over the world, this way communities like this stay fresh and new ideas can be brought to the table.

If he hated the device from day one then its definetly not for him and he made the right choice, i loved the n900 from day one :p

I dont think anyone looking for a simple phone that just works should buy a n900, its known for not having the best free navigation options nor being a great phone, the manufacturer explicitly describe it not as a phone but a tablet. But if you want something you can mess about on with open source software and do things that a phone shouldnt do, then youre int he right place, how many other devices can triple boot :cool:

(sorry for perpetutating the thread)

sophocha 2010-11-11 23:47

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Cliq away, the mighty N900 wasn`t for you.End of story.


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