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paai 2010-11-17 10:48

smartphones damaging bank cards
 
Hi,

read today in a dutch newspaper that the radiation fom a smartphone could damage the magnetic strip and/or chip on a bankpass or creditcard.

On the other4 hand, I like the idea of carrying creditcard and n900 in the same pouch.

Would it help to carry the creditcard in a metal sleeve?

Paai

ossipena 2010-11-17 10:56

Re: smartphones damaging bank cards
 
http://www.smartcaze.se/index2.htm

e: I'd be more concerned about n900's screen than credit cards chip when those two would be side by side in my pocket....

James_Littler 2010-11-17 10:57

Re: smartphones damaging bank cards
 
Honestly, the only 2 things that's ever stopped my bank cards from working are a. snapping them, or b. salt water (not good for the chip).

I'm sure some giant electro-magnet wouldn't do it any good, but a phone? Please!

Anyway I'd be more worried about what it can do to your brain if it can destroy bank cards

RobbieThe1st 2010-11-17 10:58

Re: smartphones damaging bank cards
 
Eh, I seriously doubt it. You can stick a magnetic-stripped card in the microwave for a few seconds without frying it and that's a few thousand times stronger than anything your phone could ever put out.

A RFID chip however could be damaged, but probably not by a cellphone - Three seconds in the microwave however will turn it into a nice char spot on your card.

xenkof 2010-11-17 11:33

Re: smartphones damaging bank cards
 
I haven't had a credit card fry on me from a phone and I have been using both and close to each other for more than a decade.

I have had hotel cards get deprogrammed though from a phone when kept together (I am talking same bag here not really close as in a pocket or case).
I guess it depends from the quality of the card.

A bank card is designed to last anywhere from 1 to 4 years of abuse in wallets, pockets, atm's, teller machines etc.
A hotel card is probably the cheapest available quality and pretty much disposable.

pisthpeeps 2010-11-17 11:37

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My credit cards suffers a lot due to my wife's shopping when compared to the radiation of 50 smartphones.

Sopwith 2010-11-17 13:41

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Quote:

Originally Posted by xenkof (Post 875980)
...A bank card is designed to last anywhere from 1 to 4 years of abuse in wallets, pockets, atm's, teller machines etc...

My stupid local bank keeps sending me cards made of some self-disintegrating plastic, that last only 6 months in my wallet... When I ask for a replacement they just send the next card with extended validity date, so now I have a cracked card that is valid until 2016. Idiots.

lma 2010-11-18 13:46

Re: smartphones damaging bank cards
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by paai (Post 875945)
read today in a dutch newspaper that the radiation fom a smartphone could damage the magnetic strip and/or chip on a bankpass or creditcard.

Dunno about radiation, but devices containing magnets (such as the N900) are a definite concern for the cards' magnetic strips. Best to keep them at a reasonable distance.

Joseph.skb 2010-11-18 13:55

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ossipena (Post 875953)
http://www.smartcaze.se/index2.htm

e: I'd be more concerned about n900's screen than credit cards chip when those two would be side by side in my pocket....

Agreed! Or you could you your credit card to pay for yourN900 screen replacement :p

TiagoTiago 2010-11-18 14:15

Re: smartphones damaging bank cards
 
I remember seeing on Mythusters they trying to mess up the data on magnetic strips on cards with all sorts of magnets, and only on very extreme cases anything happened at all

tzsm98 2010-11-18 15:18

Re: smartphones damaging bank cards
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TiagoTiago (Post 877103)
I remember seeing on Mythusters they trying to mess up the data on magnetic strips on cards with all sorts of magnets, and only on very extreme cases anything happened at all

When I was a spot welder in an auto assembly factory I messed up my credit cards the day I forgot to leave my wallet in my locker. Seventeen pulses per job, 600 jobs by the end of the shift took real good care of the magnetic stripe. I don't think the NSA could have recovered it.

Carrying your wallet and the N900 in the same pocket means you have big pockets. Because of the bulk of the case/phone using the dedicated Nokia case nothing else goes in that pocket.

dchky 2010-11-19 08:17

Re: smartphones damaging bank cards
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by paai (Post 875945)
Hi,

read today in a dutch newspaper that the radiation fom a smartphone could damage the magnetic strip and/or chip on a bankpass or creditcard.

On the other4 hand, I like the idea of carrying creditcard and n900 in the same pouch.

Would it help to carry the creditcard in a metal sleeve?

Paai

Any time you read this kind of page filler, it is utterly safe to ignore.

Every moment of our existence we are being bombarded with electromagnetic radiation from right across the spectrum, some of this is significantly more 'powerful' than what is radiated from a cellphone antenna.

You need a fairly strong magnetic field to modify the card stripe - you wont get that, ever, from your bog standard cell phone.

RevdKathy 2010-11-20 09:44

Re: smartphones damaging bank cards
 
I would imagine that the sort of radiation needed to upset your bank cards would not be something you wanted anywhere near your body, certainly not in your hip pocket. If it ain't going to hurt me, I doubt it will harm my cards. Besides, cards are replaceable.

christopher70 2010-11-20 11:39

Re: smartphones damaging bank cards
 
I wouldn't worry too much as well, this should happen in very rare cases (and if it does, then I would worry for my own health as well !)


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