One BIG Difference between Maemo 5 and MeeGo
 

After posting several posts here,

I feel that Maemo 5 is very advanced on many aspects.

More like a desktop OS.

What I see about MeeGo is that MeeGo came to look like Android/iPhone.

Symbian-3 could provide good portrait support even with widgets on the home screen. Because NOKIA orgnized the widgets as modules and limit the customization.

For Maemo 5, you can do more customization.

From the UI aspect, I find that MeeGo can provide better portrait support. Maemo cannot do this because in Maemo you can cusomize you

Maemo is one step ahead the iOS/Android.

iPhone/Android is still defined as a phone.

In Maemo, you can decide where to put the icon/widgets/contacts

on anywhere on the desktop.

NO OTHER OS CAN DO THIS ! !

I think NOKIA made this change based on the market research result. Maybe the result is that more than 90 percent customers like a phone, not a internet tablet like N900.

So Nokia decide to make MeeGo to be more like a phone OS.

But what I want to say is that as a phone OS, Android/iOS is several steps ahead. More apps, more developers.

Re: One BIG Difference between Maemo 5 and MeeGo
 

Which is awesome for gadget and computer geeks that like to tinker. Not so much for everyone else, as the market littered with unsuccessful tablets that ran Windows goes to show, along with the bashing WM6.5 and the like got.

Well, it is the Handset UX after all. Keep in mind that, moreso than Maemo 5, we can customize MeeGo. Load a different window manager and desktop environment and you're good to go.

Which is a function of time, they did not appear overnight. And this is why Qt is being leveraged, the Qt SDK is on par with other development SDKs. The MeeGo SDK needs work, but already the availability of QEMU environments is at least on par with what Android offers, and things are only getting better.

Re: One BIG Difference between Maemo 5 and MeeGo
 

this thread is a fail
like MANY others
he's jus here to get his post liked
i mean cmon
isnt what he stated kinda obvious?
maemo.org should be for questions strictly
heck
even so, ppl dont search and i saw 3 threads with same issue
i hope to see tmo on failblog soon

Re: One BIG Difference between Maemo 5 and MeeGo
 

dont be judging MeeGo by looking at MeeGo reference UX, b/c end user products released by device makers will have there own UI on top in most cases. And if we still go by what we knew about Harmattan, then Nokia MeeGo will have home screen widgets and panable desktop

http://www.allaboutmeego.com/news/it...the_Maemo_.php

Re: One BIG Difference between Maemo 5 and MeeGo
 

Lol, quite entertaining. Can you click "Thanks" for me? Thanks! :p

Re: One BIG Difference between Maemo 5 and MeeGo
 

extract from Nokia's MeeGo Banana and Pairs Wiki document

Widget Space

"The ‘Widget Space’ is a customized area where users can add/edit their widgets.

The user can find the widget space by flicking vertically from the switcher. Once the user is within the space, they can horizontally scroll to view multiple areas for widgets.

Widget Widgets are a way of providing quick access to surfaced content and functionality. Widgets should be snappy, bite-sized pieces of content and should not be confused with applications.

Please refer to the ‘Designing your Widget’ section for more information on Widgets. "

Re: One BIG Difference between Maemo 5 and MeeGo
 

Yes. And No!

If a Maemo desktop widget has autorotation built in (like DigiClock) it can mess up screen layout when flipping to portrait.

On Symbian, widgets are assigned to 'blocks' that have corresponding positions on portait/landscape so things do not become a jumbled mess on rotation.

With SPB MobileShell for Symbian you CAN position widgets pretty much where you want them in both portrait AND landscape modes. My X6 is now almost as customisable (for the basics at least) as my N900, but you are limited to SPB's choice of widgets.

SPB Mobile Shell is available across several platforms now - does anyone have any experience of how this works on other devices?

Personally I'm not bothered about portrait mode on N900 homescreen & menus, but autorotation within apps is immensely useful to me and I await current current community efforts to achieve this in Modest, etc with great interest.

Re: One BIG Difference between Maemo 5 and MeeGo
 

I didn't get the point.

lot of words yes but nothing more.

Re: One BIG Difference between Maemo 5 and MeeGo
 

whats about letting the individual user decide which windowmanager to use?
...

Re: One BIG Difference between Maemo 5 and MeeGo
 

Very few words...

In fact so few I don't know if you are addressing my own, the OP or others in this thread.

If you were addressing me, I was pointing out to the OP that widget placement customisation on the homescreen is possible through SPB Mobile Shell and therefore may be possible on other OS's.

Re: One BIG Difference between Maemo 5 and MeeGo
 

windowmanager?

Forgive my technical ignorance!

IMO nothing compares to the awesome customisation potential of Maemo5 right now.

I just hope this potential is facilitated on Meego.

Re: One BIG Difference between Maemo 5 and MeeGo
 

The points you made about MeeGo, concern only this one reference handset UX. You can make your own user experience, with your own window manager, desktop, applications.

MeeGo Core OS includes:
drivers;
Qt.
They are essential.

All design is inside UX and can be replaced with another UX.

Re: One BIG Difference between Maemo 5 and MeeGo
 

this is what i ment.
windowmanger: the program that is responsible for placing your icons, windows, widgets, gadgets, menus, taskbars, slits and so on on the screen.
choose one:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compari...indow_managers
and any environment on top - if you want.
why not?

EDIT: find matchbox in the list and compare it with the others...

Re: One BIG Difference between Maemo 5 and MeeGo
 

You sound like a candidate for Easy Debian. You should be able to use Kde, WindowMaker, and others.

Re: One BIG Difference between Maemo 5 and MeeGo
 

for instance. easy debian proofs the concept. thousands of other examples.
but why in easy debian? i do not like kde nor gnome(too bloated for my taste) but at least gnome runs on matchbox so you don't even need a different window manager for that.

don't fight about it! agree to disagree and just use what you like the best! and if you can't do it, you found where a distribution falls behind all the many others.

Re: One BIG Difference between Maemo 5 and MeeGo
 

Couldn't agree more, I hope the meego or the next phone (whatever OS it has) will still have the N900 'desktop'.

Its what I love the most about this phone. I have 10 tiny buttons in the bottom and a small menu + status button on the top corner, which make my phone as handy as it could get + my wallpaper is completely visible without any unnecessary button ruining the image. And the multitasking, the easiness of controlling everything is just.. Perfect! It really feels like just a normal computer, instead of phone with just some buttons on it.

Whatever Nokia does, I really hope they don't mess this up.

I really love this phone :D:D:D

Re: One BIG Difference between Maemo 5 and MeeGo
 

You (and I) shouldn't have to resort to mere hope that the desktop will be good and that Nokia doesn't mess it up. We should be able to graft the Maemo UI that we want on top of the MeeGo OS.

To my mind, maemo.org should have as one of its goals to assist community members in using the "N900 desktop" (or N8x0 UI) on top of Nokia's next MeeGo device.

Re: One BIG Difference between Maemo 5 and MeeGo
 

So what's the BIG difference? :)

Re: One BIG Difference between Maemo 5 and MeeGo
 

I also fail to see the BIG difference. MeeGo from Nokia is bound to be almost exactly like Symbian. Symbian^3 is close to perfect regarding customization, more will not be better without some (yet unknown) radical changes in the whole structure.

Re: One BIG Difference between Maemo 5 and MeeGo
 

its going to be nothing like symbian other than they both will use Qt.
Is Maemo anything like symbian?
Nokia are wanting to take the UX in MeeGo to a new level, why would they want to replicate what they already have and are on the verge of changing?
BTw if you want Maemo like UI on MeeGo you might just get it, i read Hildon was being ported.

Re: One BIG Difference between Maemo 5 and MeeGo
 

Would be fine by me, as long as its done :D

Re: One BIG Difference between Maemo 5 and MeeGo
 

As a matter of fact, yes. Symbian^3 and Maemo have much of the same look and feel and functionality, like two brothers. Even s60 rel5 shares a similar look and feel, except it doesn't have multiple home screens.

I have no clue what Nokias MeeGo UX will look like, but Maemo/Symbian^3 works extremely well, better than any other UX out there at the moment when taking multitasking into account. Assuming Nokia will go further with this is only natural. I am curious of what new level you are talking about.

Re: One BIG Difference between Maemo 5 and MeeGo
 

That project is just getting started

http://blogs.gnome.org/foundation/20...call-for-bids/

and Hildon may not be completely ported. So we may or may not get a maemo-like UI on Meego.

Re: One BIG Difference between Maemo 5 and MeeGo
 

oh and here I thought the big difference where the spelling of the OS names.

Re: One BIG Difference between Maemo 5 and MeeGo
 

Where did you get this radical idea? :confused:
MeeGo (Nokia UX) will be nothing like Symbian.

Early leak or not, it may look similar to this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P37PaOZJzEs&1&fmt=18

Really? Hmm. I must not have been using Maemo for the past year as I find the two VERY different in nearly every way possible. (btw, I had N95 8GB and have N900 and N8 right now.) I see no similarities except that both can make and receive phone calls. I see more similarities between Android and Symbian^3.

Re: One BIG Difference between Maemo 5 and MeeGo
 

Maemo is very similar to (vanilla) Android, more so than Symbian^3. Multiple configurable home screens and one huge bucket of apps. IMO too configurable and too many home screens, it becomes messy and confusing. Symbian^3 is more strict with less configurability, but less confusing and more tidy. But even so, Symbian^3 and Maemo are very similar.

The update for the N8 coming next year (rumored to be coming out of the box for the E7), makes Symbian^3 almost exactly like the early MeeGo vid you posted.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YU0xt...layer_embedded

Re: One BIG Difference between Maemo 5 and MeeGo
 

Are judging? really?
Let's check your threads :
"Help needed (:" <- i like those titles. with sooo much info
"How to overclock NITDriod" <- wake up, it's tmo and not tno, go to nitdroid forum
"2nd time my desktop froze" <- mimimimi , just bug report it and use search
and so on, and all those question u asked while u could use google or man, but u judge others. c'mon?
And yes i don't think this thread is great, though i agree a little bit with topic started, but he could just add it to other meego or meego vs maemo threads.