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Odd_gunnic 2010-11-21 16:26

What happens to MicroB when MeeGo arrives
 
Has there been any word on what happens to MicroB when Meego arrives?
I like firefox but it doesn't compare with MicroB. With a few tweaks to the UI and use of tabs, MicroB doesn't have any browsing competitors.

shadowjk 2010-11-21 19:21

Re: What happens to MicroB when MeeGo arrives
 
The answer: nothing

It will still be on your N900's Maemo 5.

HellFlyer 2010-11-21 19:28

Re: What happens to MicroB when MeeGo arrives
 
I hope you know that MicroB is based on the same engine :)

Nokia will tweak Fennec for MeeGo devices and in theory would be much much better than MicroB

Elhana 2010-11-21 19:43

Re: What happens to MicroB when MeeGo arrives
 
MicroB is outdated compared to Firefox Mobile, it starts faster because it is kept resident by the OS, but that's all. On the other hand it has bugs that are not fixed for ages. I guess Nokia doesn't want to spend resources maintaining fork when upstream is working better.
Just forget it and use Firefox.

Catacylsm 2010-11-21 20:48

Re: What happens to MicroB when MeeGo arrives
 
MicroB rapes firefox on maemo period, it doesnt just launch faster, the whole browsing experience is generally snappier and more responsive, hope i never see FF on any os

aligatro 2010-11-21 20:57

Re: What happens to MicroB when MeeGo arrives
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Catacylsm (Post 879774)
MicroB rapes firefox on maemo period, it doesnt just launch faster, the whole browsing experience is generally snappier and more responsive, hope i never see FF on any os

Opera rapes all of them.

tissot 2010-11-21 21:00

Re: What happens to MicroB when MeeGo arrives
 
N900 overclocked to 900mhz and microb is still the best mobile browser i have tried. I would love to have it on my Galaxy S running hummingbird CPU.
That said it's hard to say much about this as we simply don't know how will the browser perform on N9 or whatever. Microb is not perfect by no means as flash 10.1 is not there and improvements to the UI like going fullscreen can be much improved imo.
FF will be on MeeGo but do we know if Nokia will be using it? Especially on MeeGo-Harmattan?
EDIT:
Quote:

Originally Posted by aligatro (Post 879782)
Opera rapes all of them.

And then chrome comes and rapes them all? :D

Dave999 2010-11-21 21:04

Re: What happens to MicroB when MeeGo arrives
 
heard you might able to scroll through long pages with meego version of microB woithout getting a grey empty space in your face for a while. Success!

Odd_gunnic 2010-11-21 21:56

Re: What happens to MicroB when MeeGo arrives
 
I guess it can be added in plugins, but I have come to depend on MicroB's cursor mode for a site like yahoo for example.

SD69 2010-11-21 22:12

Re: What happens to MicroB when MeeGo arrives
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave999 (Post 879794)
heard you might able to scroll through long pages with meego version of microB woithout getting a grey empty space in your face for a while. Success!

I haven't heard anything about a meego version of microB. Do you have a link?

TiagoTiago 2010-11-21 22:41

Re: What happens to MicroB when MeeGo arrives
 
Somtimes i miss having microB on my Windows desktop

rickysio 2010-11-21 22:53

Re: What happens to MicroB when MeeGo arrives
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave999 (Post 879794)
heard you might able to scroll through long pages with meego version of microB woithout getting a grey empty space in your face for a while. Success!

Hopefully it stops giving people the white page of doom as well.

lq_sunshine 2010-11-21 23:01

Re: What happens to MicroB when MeeGo arrives
 
Opera Mobile really rocks..
its is fast and intuitive.
its is my no 1browser although opera is without flash support..

jakiman 2010-11-21 23:18

Re: What happens to MicroB when MeeGo arrives
 
I'm a heavy web surfer on my N900. At least couple of hours a day is spent on it visiting dozens of web sites and writing and editing blog / forum posts. Other browsers just do not compare to MicroB right now imo. (I have tried latest daily build of fennec, Opera mobile etc) MicroB still wins imo.

- I use greasemonkey to ensure some websites are not shrunk-fit into 800pixels wide. (such as TMO)
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...t=greasemonkey

- Virtual mouse pointer controllable by finger is a god-send. Ability to simply select exactly what I want just like a mouse by holding shift to highlight text etc, hover on top of web objects and see context popups or navigate menus etc. WHat other browser can do this? (Opera does it via keyboard arrows but it's just not the same)

- Zoom via volume rocker is also a god send. I prefer this to any other method of zooming by other phones / browsers.

- Having multiple windows open and switch between them super quick va Shortcutd. (camera half-press) (tab browsing would be cool too but there's just not enough screen space for it really)

To me, MicroB + N9000 gives the closest thing to a desktop browsing experience on ANY mobile phone.

SD69 2010-11-22 01:10

Re: What happens to MicroB when MeeGo arrives
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jakiman (Post 879866)

- Virtual mouse pointer controllable by finger is a god-send. Ability to simply select exactly what I want just like a mouse by holding shift to highlight text etc, hover on top of web objects and see context popups or navigate menus etc. WHat other browser can do this? (Opera

- Zoom via volume rocker is also a god send. I prefer this to any other method of zooming by other phones / browsers.

- Having multiple windows open and switch between them super quick va Shortcutd. (camera half-press) (tab browsing would be cool too but there's just not enough screen space for it really)

Agreed, I haven't seen any other mobile device browser do these. Nor is it likely in the future. Everyone has gone gaga over pinch-to-zoom, for example.

michou 2010-11-22 01:40

Re: What happens to MicroB when MeeGo arrives
 
Does anyone know what happened to the plan to use Webkit as the layout engine of choice for Meego devices? All netbooks and tablets running meego are running Chromium, I base this only on screenshots and videos seen. But now, at least on the handset side it seems that Fennec will be used.

Even for Symbian^3 they chose to use Webkit instead of Gecko. My understanding is that webkit is supposed to use less RAM. Don't get me wrong, I think microB is great and I'm sure if Nokia decides to integrate fennec as part of Meego they will optimise it to work as fluidly as microB. But it just makes me wonder, with plans to bring both Meego and Symbian closer together, why use a different layout engines.

JayBEE 2010-11-22 02:03

Re: What happens to MicroB when MeeGo arrives
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jakiman (Post 879866)
I'm a heavy web surfer on my N900. At least couple of hours a day is spent on it visiting dozens of web sites and writing and editing blog / forum posts. Other browsers just do not compare to MicroB right now imo. (I have tried latest daily build of fennec, Opera mobile etc) MicroB still wins imo.

[.. other praise removed]

To me, MicroB + N9000 gives the closest thing to a desktop browsing experience on ANY mobile phone.

I feel the same way for Firefox/fennec! To each their own.

aligatro 2010-11-22 06:19

Re: What happens to MicroB when MeeGo arrives
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tissot (Post 879786)
N900 overclocked to 900mhz and microb is still the best mobile browser i have tried. I would love to have it on my Galaxy S running hummingbird CPU.
That said it's hard to say much about this as we simply don't know how will the browser perform on N9 or whatever. Microb is not perfect by no means as flash 10.1 is not there and improvements to the UI like going fullscreen can be much improved imo.
FF will be on MeeGo but do we know if Nokia will be using it? Especially on MeeGo-Harmattan?
EDIT:


And then chrome comes and rapes them all? :D

chrome is not hildonized so no.

also I am shocked at how some people say that n900 almost fully replaces laptop/desktop. For me, it's much harder to browse websites on smaller screen. I only surf on it when I am in bed and too lazy to get up and use my laptop.

ossipena 2010-11-22 06:25

Re: What happens to MicroB when MeeGo arrives
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by michou (Post 879924)
But it just makes me wonder, with plans to bring both Meego and Symbian closer together, why use a different layout engines.

was that really the plan? weren't they moving symbian to cheap devices and meego is coming to the best specced devices. using different browsers with somewhat unified UX would be the most logical choice imo.

maluka 2010-11-22 06:49

Re: What happens to MicroB when MeeGo arrives
 
What happened to Chromium? It was the best backup browser for a while.

aligatro 2010-11-22 13:32

Re: What happens to MicroB when MeeGo arrives
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by maluka (Post 880052)
What happened to Chromium? It was the best backup browser for a while.

Some Israely company filed a suit against google, nokia **** their pants and removed it from repositories.

Jaffa 2010-11-22 13:49

Re: What happens to MicroB when MeeGo arrives
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by aligatro (Post 880260)
Some Israely company filed a suit against google, nokia **** their pants and removed it from repositories.

Not quite true. Nokia Legal asked if we wouldn't mind removing it from maemo.org (since they were the legal owners) and with jacekowski in the loop, the Council complied.

We also offered to act as intermediaries with jacekowski and Red Panda to see if we could find a way by which they'd be satisified maemo.org was distributing a version which didn't contain any source or binary references to the algorithms on which they allegedly hold the rights. jacekowski never took us up on the offer :-(

wmarone 2010-11-22 16:57

Re: What happens to MicroB when MeeGo arrives
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jaffa (Post 880270)
We also offered to act as intermediaries with jacekowski and Red Panda to see if we could find a way by which they'd be satisified maemo.org was distributing a version which didn't contain any source or binary references to the algorithms on which they allegedly hold the rights. jacekowski never took us up on the offer :-(

Which was smart, as that would have suggested Red Panda's patents were in some way valid. Better to show that software patents cause innovation to rot and progress to stall than to comply ;)

Jaffa 2010-11-22 17:04

Re: What happens to MicroB when MeeGo arrives
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by wmarone (Post 880410)
Which was smart, as that would have suggested Red Panda's patents were in some way valid. Better to show that software patents cause innovation to rot and progress to stall than to comply ;)

Software patents are valid in multiple jurisdictions. You might not like it, but I don't like a 70mph speed limit on UK motorways either. Anyway, I'm sure the users who don't find jacekowski's repository, or those who want Chromium if he ever disappears (as so many people have before), will appreciate the moral stance ;-)

Anyway, since Maemo uses apt as an update distribution mechanism there's certainly no use for Courgette in the Maemo version of Chromium. Whether or not that's easy to remove from both source and binary is not something I've looked in to (it seemed more appropriate a question that the maintainer would be able to answer).

xenkof 2010-11-22 18:31

Re: What happens to MicroB when MeeGo arrives
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jakiman (Post 879866)
- Virtual mouse pointer controllable by finger is a god-send. Ability to simply select exactly what I want just like a mouse by holding shift to highlight text etc, hover on top of web objects and see context popups or navigate menus etc. WHat other browser can do this? (Opera does it via keyboard arrows but it's just not the same)

If you press and hold on the screen in Opera it displays a menu for selecting (by touch) or search. If it's a link you also get the open in new tab option.
If it also used plugins like flash I would be in mobile heaven. I' ve had my N900 for almost a year now and since Opera came out I only use microB for flash. And I do A LOT of surfing on the move.
Enough to drain my data plan dry before the end of the month :o

gerdich 2010-11-23 16:12

Re: What happens to MicroB when MeeGo arrives
 
Im loving MicroB!!!!!!!!!


Save MicroB!


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