maemo.org - Talk

maemo.org - Talk (https://talk.maemo.org/index.php)
-   Applications (https://talk.maemo.org/forumdisplay.php?f=41)
-   -   [DEVELOPERS NEEDED] Qt based tabbed web browser with mouse support (https://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=66594)

freemangordon 2010-12-05 17:33

[DEVELOPERS NEEDED] Qt based tabbed web browser with mouse support
 
So... As I already promised here http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...7&postcount=28 source code of qtmweb is in the garage.

Here it is how UI looks like for now

http://talk.maemo.org/attachment.php...1&d=1290871439

Garage page is https://garage.maemo.org/projects/qtmweb/.

I want to ask developers here to contribute to project, so at the end we to have web browser with FULL desktop behavior on n900.

There are several things to be done, most of them are under "Tasks" on garage page. For now tabs work, flash works (in fullscreen too) , there is some file download working too.

qtmweb could be compiled either in QT Creator or in scratchbox. QTCreator was used for development so far. You need to have svn to checkout the project

And... I don't know how project management works in garage, so any help on that matter will be appreciated

MohammadAG 2010-12-05 17:38

Re: [DEVELOPERS NEEDED] Qt based tabbed web browser with mouse support
 
Or *shameless advertising*, submit patches for http://gitorious.org/qtbrowser/qtbrowser :P

freemangordon 2010-12-05 17:41

Re: [DEVELOPERS NEEDED] Qt based tabbed web browser with mouse support
 
Sorry, did not get that. I would recommend you to first check what I have submit before making "shameless advertising" . It is not a clone of example browser coming with Qt ;) Anyway, I will look at your code, it is sad there to be 2 parallel browser projects

MohammadAG 2010-12-05 17:48

Re: [DEVELOPERS NEEDED] Qt based tabbed web browser with mouse support
 
Calling it a clone of an example browser would be a clear statement showing you didn't look at the code, I've just dug it up (left it for a month).

http://i54.tinypic.com/29ksy0o.jpg

freemangordon 2010-12-05 17:56

Re: [DEVELOPERS NEEDED] Qt based tabbed web browser with mouse support
 
Yeah , my fault, not qt examples clone, only the name :p . Just downloaded source code - definitely you should look at qtmweb, it is several months ahead (according to me of course :D ). And your looks like touch optimised, while mine is definitely written with mouse and keyboard in head.

paulkoan 2010-12-05 22:00

Re: [DEVELOPERS NEEDED] Qt based tabbed web browser with mouse support
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by freemangordon (Post 889937)
while mine is definitely written with mouse and keyboard in head.

But with touch as well?

ToJa92 2010-12-05 23:08

Re: [DEVELOPERS NEEDED] Qt based tabbed web browser with mouse support
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by paulkoan (Post 890125)
But with touch as well?

+1, was gonna ask about this as well. So far it looks like a nice and light browser, and its great for Grooveshark.

Too bad I dont know much about C++ :(

HellFlyer 2010-12-06 00:18

Re: [DEVELOPERS NEEDED] Qt based tabbed web browser with mouse support
 
What's the point? Fennec with Phony addon behaves exactly like a fully desktop browser , Mozilla dev team are just tweaking it to make faster

paulkoan 2010-12-06 00:32

Re: [DEVELOPERS NEEDED] Qt based tabbed web browser with mouse support
 
The issue with fennec isn't speed, but memory footprint. Once it is loaded, there is little room for anything else, leading to swapping, leading to performance loss overall.

Your mileage may vary, it depends on usage scenarios.

HellFlyer 2010-12-06 00:37

Re: [DEVELOPERS NEEDED] Qt based tabbed web browser with mouse support
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by paulkoan (Post 890245)
The issue with fennec isn't speed, but memory footprint. Once it is loaded, there is little room for anything else, leading to swapping, leading to performance loss overall.

Your mileage may vary, it depends on usage scenarios.

Well I run fennec + music player and sometimes checking emails its good enough for me...if you're having problems slowdowns related to with swapping try swappolube. I applied recommended settings and so far swap usage is pretty good :)

Deaconclgi 2010-12-06 00:38

Re: [DEVELOPERS NEEDED] Qt based tabbed web browser with mouse support
 
Wow! I didn't know about either of these browsers being in development. Thank you BOTH for your browser developments and contributions to the N900.

When you say flash works, you mean the same flash 9.xxx that comes with every N900 or something else?

freemangordon 2010-12-06 09:57

Re: [DEVELOPERS NEEDED] Qt based tabbed web browser with mouse support
 
@all - guys, I am not asking for advices nor ideas here. What I need is DEVELOPERS to help me continue work on this project. When (and if) it is ready for masses there will be announce thread where you can request features, say how stupid is the idea of writing another browser, etc. Please all of you, if you have no intention to join development do not comment here, just start another thread on your own or use some other for this purpose.

Thanks

paulkoan 2010-12-06 11:03

Re: [DEVELOPERS NEEDED] Qt based tabbed web browser with mouse support
 
Developers have a finite amount of time, and therefore will want to commit time to a project is likely to succeed in order to not waste that time.

Any project needs an audience. People are questioning the value of the project at its inception as compared to existing projects and existing applications. Rather than providing a value proposition, you are shutting down discussion that could lead to interest from potential developers.

Good luck. I hope you are successful and look forward to your announce.

No need to reply to this message as thread rules you have just created would disallow me from replying in turn, which would be inequitable.

slender 2010-12-06 11:15

Re: [DEVELOPERS NEEDED] Qt based tabbed web browser with mouse support
 
fennec fast? What have you people been eating? Last time, yesterday when nightly was updated, I clocked different page loading times and rendering speed against Opera and opera is still quite a lot faster than fennec. Opera just loads pages on my N900 faster and is even responsive while itīs loading pages.

But to OP it's always nice to see new experiments to be done!

freemangordon 2010-12-07 17:30

Re: [DEVELOPERS NEEDED] Qt based tabbed web browser with mouse support
 
just bumping the thread

ear0wax 2010-12-07 22:37

Re: [DEVELOPERS NEEDED] Qt based tabbed web browser with mouse support
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by HellFlyer
What's the point? Fennec with Phony addon behaves exactly like a fully desktop browser , Mozilla dev team are just tweaking it to make faster


Quote:

Originally Posted by HellFlyer (Post 890250)
Well I run fennec + music player and sometimes checking emails its good enough for me...if you're having problems slowdowns related to with swapping try swappolube. I applied recommended settings and so far swap usage is pretty good :)

What are you smoking, Fennec brings the N900 to its knees within loading a single page. Even with swappolube and me running at 1.1ghz. the ui in fennec hangs horribly and make the n900 almost unresponsive. You have to keep in mind that the real target audience for fennec is android, and all those phone have 512ram at least.

On top of that theres no need to disregard the need for alternate browsers, for example, I hate the menu bar at the bottom of Microb, I want it smaller. The ability to have tabs for example, I dont like having 12 windows open.

I hope this gets the Development it deserves.

mattbutsko 2010-12-07 23:14

Re: [DEVELOPERS NEEDED] Qt based tabbed web browser with mouse support
 
Wish this were touch friendly. Would love a Qt browser, Qts the only thing that runs good in Maemo.

freemangordon 2010-12-08 08:02

Re: [DEVELOPERS NEEDED] Qt based tabbed web browser with mouse support
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mattbutsko (Post 891912)
Wish this were touch friendly. Would love a Qt browser, Qts the only thing that runs good in Maemo.

Ok, I will consider that if development continues

MaddogG 2010-12-09 15:11

Re: [DEVELOPERS NEEDED] Qt based tabbed web browser with mouse support
 
@freemangordon

Hi! I made a Qt web browser some time ago. It's almost complete, but it was just a sort of big exercise to learn Qt, so it's not absolutely bugs/errors free and needs many many optimizations...and it was made by a beginner, so code is not so beautiful :)
It's touchscreen optimised, so maybe it's not what you are looking for, but it could be a good starting point.

I'll be honest: I don't have much free time (unfortunately, I am not rich and I have to work T T ), and I'm not an advanced Qt developer, but if you want I can try to help you.

Some infos about my work:
  • tabbed browsing (sort of...not real tabs but thumbs of opened pages)
  • fovorites management
  • history
  • download manager
  • passwords saving
  • settings (cookies, fonts, etc...)
  • animated UI :)
  • SQLite database for data saving
  • written with Qt 4.6

I would like to rewrite it using Qt 4.7/QML, someday...

freemangordon 2010-12-09 17:35

Re: [DEVELOPERS NEEDED] Qt based tabbed web browser with mouse support
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MaddogG (Post 893316)
@freemangordon

Hi! I made a Qt web browser some time ago. It's almost complete, but it was just a sort of big exercise to learn Qt, so it's not absolutely bugs/errors free and needs many many optimizations...and it was made by a beginner, so code is not so beautiful :)
It's touchscreen optimised, so maybe it's not what you are looking for, but it could be a good starting point.

I'll be honest: I don't have much free time (unfortunately, I am not rich and I have to work T T ), and I'm not an advanced Qt developer, but if you want I can try to help you.

Some infos about my work:
  • tabbed browsing (sort of...not real tabs but thumbs of opened pages)
  • fovorites management
  • history
  • download manager
  • passwords saving
  • settings (cookies, fonts, etc...)
  • animated UI :)
  • SQLite database for data saving
  • written with Qt 4.6

I would like to rewrite it using Qt 4.7/QML, someday...

That is cool. But.. would you be more clear, do you want to contribute to qtmweb or you want me to finish your browser. If you want to contribute I think your code could be of use. Did you checkout qtmweb source from repository ?

MaddogG 2010-12-09 20:01

Re: [DEVELOPERS NEEDED] Qt based tabbed web browser with mouse support
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by freemangordon (Post 893421)
That is cool. But.. would you be more clear, do you want to contribute to qtmweb or you want me to finish your browser. If you want to contribute I think your code could be of use. Did you checkout qtmweb source from repository ?

I would like to contribute :)

I will take a look at your code tomorrow evening when I'm at home...

freemangordon 2010-12-09 20:11

Re: [DEVELOPERS NEEDED] Qt based tabbed web browser with mouse support
 
Great. Will wait your feedback/comments. And hopefully more people will join meanwhile.

MaddogG 2010-12-10 11:43

Re: [DEVELOPERS NEEDED] Qt based tabbed web browser with mouse support
 
I quickly watched your code, and in many parts it's very similar to mine, so it should not be a problem for me to give you a hand.

AgogData 2010-12-10 12:15

Re: [DEVELOPERS NEEDED] Qt based tabbed web browser with mouse support
 
now you have your co-developer, dont forget the 'open tab in background' its missing in firefox and opera

freemangordon 2010-12-10 12:35

Re: [DEVELOPERS NEEDED] Qt based tabbed web browser with mouse support
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AgogData (Post 893965)
now you have your co-developer, dont forget the 'open tab in background' its missing in firefox and opera

no, no, the tab is ALWAYS opened in background, just as my desktop mozilla does ;)

hm88 2011-01-30 03:52

Re: [DEVELOPERS NEEDED] Qt based tabbed web browser with mouse support
 
any update?

freemangordon 2011-02-02 17:52

Re: [DEVELOPERS NEEDED] Qt based tabbed web browser with mouse support
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by hm88 (Post 931647)
any update?

Nope, still waiting maddogG to do what he promised ;)

number41 2011-03-23 14:52

Re: [DEVELOPERS NEEDED] Qt based tabbed web browser with mouse support
 
I'm bumping this thread for justice; the N900 would greatly benefit from having a better implementation of the, so far, only browser capable of handling tabbed browsing, full mouse support and flash.

Any devs out there willing to help? This would be a great boost for the community, I assume.

Btw, this post is being writtten In QtMWeb; even in its rather alpha stagbe, it is far more usable, with a keyboard and a mouse, than microB, due to the mouse support.


All times are GMT. The time now is 01:08.

vBulletin® Version 3.8.8