VMware to virtualize Android smartphones
 

link here:
http://www.networkworld.com/news/201...g-android.html

what do you think? I guess uboot(ie. uboot to multiple copy of maemo) on N900 would provide similar result???

not sure how one would get different phone # for each instance of maemo

Re: VMware to virtualize Android smartphones
 

Not quite. Virtualization would have both OSes running at the same time, more likely. I don't see this kind of VM type stuff being used to run multiple OSes, so much as to place the user in a virtualized sandbox (think DRM.) I'd be pleasantly surprised to see that not be the case, though.

Re: VMware to virtualize Android smartphones
 

you are correct, the article says it will be running two instances of the OS. I think for this to "work-as-intended", the VM has to pickup all incoming calls 1st and then open the corresponding OS instance.

Re: VMware to virtualize Android smartphones
 

This would be useful for smaller/Indie companies but I know for sure that IBM would not want it near them or their contractual partners. I work for IBM and they really do not like end users using their own devices, 1 bit.

Re: VMware to virtualize Android smartphones
 

well you can never said never:-). many moons ago, VM was not considered(positively no way, until the cow come home sort of way:-)) for the type of work that I do(even for internal testing only). It is now made as part of solution for the customer installation:-).

I think the most difficult part is to make it seamless for "outgoing" usage on the same physical unit..

Re: VMware to virtualize Android smartphones
 

i will beleive it when i see

Re: VMware to virtualize Android smartphones
 

This was demoed on the N900 well over a year ago

And it looked like they had more or less abandoned it, but then it is the N900 so no surprise they have switched to Android devices instead

Re: VMware to virtualize Android smartphones
 

Do you happen to have a link for that demo or article??? tried searching at VMware and did not get any meaningful result.

cheers,

Re: VMware to virtualize Android smartphones
 

Do you mean the n900 or the n800? I saw the n800 demo, but I didn't see the n900 demo.

Re: VMware to virtualize Android smartphones
 

There is easy chroot if you really want virtualization... I mean you could run multiple OS at the same time on n900...

Re: VMware to virtualize Android smartphones
 

Demo on N800. So it would even run faster on N900. Ah well.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNo6pn-dnSQ&1&fmt=18

Re: VMware to virtualize Android smartphones
 

chroot is not virtualization though, they appear similar but are extremely different at a much lower level.

Re: VMware to virtualize Android smartphones
 

If this is true virtualization (I didn't read the link), I'd be interested to know how they plan to implement fault isolation on what I'm assuming is ARM v7 to prevent the virtualized OS to leak into the host. As I understand it, the architecture doesn't have this facility built in.

Re: VMware to virtualize Android smartphones
 

My apologies it was the N800

I knew it was done on one of the N*00;s

Re: VMware to virtualize Android smartphones
 

We've discussed this topic already here. There was for additional information a link to the Product from VMware. (it seems so me they was searching for business partners) Perhaps they found now a new customer. (unfortunately not NOKIA - whereas the early demos and most of the development I guess was on the Nokia devices - see the N800 video)

Re: VMware to virtualize Android smartphones
 

I have a different view on that.
I work for IBM as well and I can say they are very open in allowing non-IBM supplied devices onto the Power9 network, as long as they comply with the security rules IBM has put forward for every platform.

FYI, look at the IBM sponsored VPN access methods supplied for Symbian, iPhone, Android, Linux and Windows Mobile, in the IBM internal TAP area : https://ciscovpn.bluehost.ibm.com/instructions.php That's the best proof they allow end-user owned devices in the heart of the business, the internal network.

Small extract :

Also, they allow Virtualization, licensed via VMware or freeware via VirtualBox or KMV, as long as -again- the individual OSes are properly licenced or free (as in Linux and others) and as long as the security rules are applied correctly on each platform.

Maybe different parts of the world behave differently but the main IBM CIO office does support openness, also in devices. If they are safely implemented.

my N900 is happily VPN connected using OpenConnect since yesterday. I even could today convert and run the (initially Ubuntu) local Java based time reporting application to run native on the N900, using the latest Oracle Embedded headfull JRE. Smooth as hell, fully functional :)

Loving my setup. I'm pretty sure I'll make my other internal IBM apps work as well on my N900 pretty easily, as most are written in platform independent Java, as it needs to run on the IBM supported Linux distros as well as on Windows variants.

iPhone and Android, eat you heart out :D

my 5 cents.

Re: VMware to virtualize Android smartphones
 

I wonder if that has anything to do with Nokia's fickle and poor support of their own platforms and customers.

Re: VMware to virtualize Android smartphones
 

We will never know. ;)



Sadly, this would be such a great environment for testing and development. Maemo and Meego side by side with Android and WebOS at a single device and for the freaky guys even Windows Mobile. :D - No need for rebooting. You have still your normal environment running.

chroot is nice, but a VM would be even better. :)