useless tags
 

I thought tags in the posts were a useful way of searching. But obviously this "mature" community has completely sabotaged that by using tags as a way to "comment" on posts. Isn't there any administrator here to clean things up? Just wondering.

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Yeah, god forbid someone do something you wouldn't do! Let's get the admin team in here to enforce your opinons.

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Would be nice if everyone could see who set any particular tag on a given thread, perhaps then adding childish tags would not be so popular.

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i've never tried searching for tags on here, cant imagine it'd work no matter how anal you want to be about it, the freeflow of ideas and suggestions cannot be conveniently pigeonholed and then searched for by people who havent had the same thoughts and ideas. if you have a problem you need fixed searcing by title and post content would be more than sufficient. so what exactly are the tags good for? alternative expression, humorous affect, comic relief and (semi) anonymous commentary. i like them as they are.

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Look at the tags of this thread: Sure, freeflow of ideas, humorous affect, comic relief. It is just crap written by children, 10 year old by the looks of it. Everyone coming to this site is able to read these tags, "nice community" - my foot. The impression you get is that this site is full of it (crap and 10 year olds). Why doesn't the admin clean it up?

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Either your standards are too high or haven't gotten the memo: Most of everything is crap.

The fact that you can actually get a lot of useful information from t.m.o. is noteworthy.

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It would probably work better if it was more wiki-like, having everyone be able to edit every tag

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"<talk.maemo.org>

This thread already has the maximum number of tags and you are not allowed to edit any existing tags."

:(

I'm 41 and I still find some of the tags hilarious. Even better that it's anonymous :)

As has already been said, it's not really worth using the tags for searching - just use Google and add "site:talk.maemo.org" to your search to restrict it to these forums.

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Yea sure, deep philosophy that one. Consider it true, and it is a 90% chance that law itself is just crap to start with. So the only conclusion to draw is that the law is utter crap, because there is no useful information coming from it in either case. Just like the tags here.

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crappy thread will result in crappy post will result in crappy tags. Great threads get great tags!

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Not according to Stenny further up here. That genius called "jedi" agreed with him as well. But, what can you expect from a community where writing the most juvenile (and anonymous) tag is the measure of manhood.

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Tag fest ftw!!!

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I believe that the admins/mods can see who set the tags.

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Niceeeeeeeee.

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I see what you did there: "This sentence is a lie"
An alternative conclusion is all crap is gold.

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obviously a thread attacking the use of tags is going to invoke an abuse of tags by those in support of said abuse. the fact they've maxed out suggests the masses have spoken. mark it down to character, immaturity, stupidity, or low level humour if you will. but i and others like it. they really wouldn't be effective for search in practice, so why not use them as stylised commentary? so much of the internet's little gems have arisen in such a manner.

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How about really calling it what it really and truly is... anonymity grants people the ability to be that inner jackass that they're scared to openly admit they truly are.

And this forum has had its own influx of jackasses as well as a mass exodus of useful folks.

Here's an image to explain what I mean.

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Please tell me that you didn't memorize those tags...

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came here for the stupid tags, leaving satisfied

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hear hear! lets just do away with all internet anonymity and we'll all go back to being "normal" :/

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First, I strongly disagree that the "influx of jackasses as well as a mass exodus of useful folks" has anything to do with tag quality, even though I have witnessed (and even contributed to) said sad trend.

Second, it is anonymity that allows me to be normal, free from all the stupid restrictions I follow in society otherwise.

I "shitcock" is the right word to be said, then I am ****ing relieved to be able to ****ing say it.

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Nice leap of faith there; bad assumption. Let me make it clearer.

The tags are representative of the influx of jackasses. The useful people post less. The tags are the indicator. The exodus of useful posters is more true than false.

Simply put. If this were a vintage coal mine, the birds will have flown away, the poisonous gases are mounting, people are oblivious to that and are too ****ing busy paying attention to semantics and other banal observations instead of looking at what is truly happening.

Tags are not the cause. They're the indicator of what's here now.

Savvy?

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Just because you don't use them and/or don't know how they can be used doesn't mean it that every jackass should be allowed to use them for their own agenda.

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Thank you all.
This thread did not disappoint :)

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yeah, tags should be reserved for "better" people who have more important things to say! Like you, right? Get off your high horse.

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Wrong.

Humor tags don't affect your searches one bit, as long as there are also relevant tags as well.

We've already had this debate, anyway. The sourpusses lost.

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Better still,
an enumerated glossary on each profile showing the tags
each profile has used and in what frequency:

99 BrickFactory
15 cynic
13 cr@p
9 useless
2 @b0rtion

have a sense of humor anyways:D

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I've commented about this before deep in another thread. Here's my opinion in TL;DR version:

Shitty and anal tags can be a problem. I've seen plenty of times when they're just indicative of someone self-righteous and oh-so-superior feeling like it's appropriate to voice something mocking/insulting. And as far as I'm concerned it is never good for unproductive dickery to be acceptable, no matter how little harm it does in that instance, because it's accepting a mentality that causes issues both in the real world and on the internet.

However, the degree to which anal tags are a problem varies with the usefulness of the post. There's plenty of times when these tags are mocking and self-supperior, but the OP/thread is really deserving of it, and/or the thread contains nothing useful. In practice, I realize that the above ideal of countering needless dickery doesn't actually gain much of anything by forcing significant tag moderation. The underlying problems (people being dicks when it's not a poignant way to express something, but just for the sake of it or for their amusement; the growing ratio of snide and hostile members to truly helpful ones), still remain.

I would be in favor of non-anonimization of the tags - you still have your nickname to keep you truly anonymous, and your IPs aren't publicly visible anyway. And if that's not enough there's Tor and being able to route your traffic through remote servers, etc. If someone has the skill to find you past that point, you're probably dealing with someone who's not interested in what you tagged a thread with.

But ultimately, I think it's really only an actual problem when threads with useful information get tagged with only uselessness indicating tags. And contrary to what Texrat's comment suggests, that does happen often. Not enough people add useful tags.

But I don't view it as enough of an issue to require admin attention. There's plenty of forum members who can edit the tags themselves (You get that ability after some post amount). Indeed, I've seen it in action on some threads, which I'm guessing wasn't all moderators/admins.

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OMG people... Why are you digging too deep into it? They're just tags - how come some of the comments in this thread are longer than 5 lines?

Btw, I was concerned about the amount of funny tags this thread might have when I first read it, but was relieved to see that there is a sufficient amount of them ;)

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Did I say anything about "better" people? Tags should be used for their proper purpose of helping to classify a thread and hopefully make searching easier. Comments, snidey remarks and attacks should be made in posts where they are subject to moderation - since apparently tags are not moderated and worse still they are "anonymous".

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i do know how to use tags and do indeed search using them on other sites, what i was saying is that they dont work here, nor do they need to. theres an insufficient number of threads on relatively similair topics that a heavily policed tagging systems would improve over a power search. therefore tags become superfluous, and thus get used as comedic commentary rather than ignored. it works for us, if you dont like them dont read them. or if you are obsessed with things being used for their original purpose only please renounce your n900 and go back to using a one line green and black display telephone and a desktop, an internet tablet is obviously an unacceptable bastardisation of the telephone and the pc.

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...and I posted the solution last time this came up: report the original post. If the thread is in my area, I'll gladly delete tags that are outright antagonistic, and prune humor tags IF they are actually getting in the way of adding useful tags. Just did that here in fact.

I would hope my fellow moderators do the same.

Solved.

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Attacks of ANY kind are not allowed, period. If you see them in tags, report it. They ARE moderated if brought to our attention.

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:) Ahhh, look at the tags now :) The air is fresh, the grass is green, the sun is shining, fishes are jumping, birds are singing, girls are smiling :D

This is much nicer, and we are all happier :D

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Yeah, well, now that I deleted the "op is useless" tag... :rolleyes:

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yes and the eats poo one :)

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Cowboys and hamburgers = Romeo and Juliet :D Ahh such romance...