I was thinking to quit N900 development...
 

...and this rude comment helped me make my decision.
Farewell N900 community.

Re: I was thinking to quit N900 development...
 

What rude comment?

Re: I was thinking to quit N900 development...
 

I feel your frustration, and I'm sure many other developers do too. I would urge you to reconsider, but if you're not enjoying the experience of developing for the N900, then perhaps it's the right decision.

Re: I was thinking to quit N900 development...
 

Seriously, frustration at what? Unless you're both seeing a different comment to what I am, the author is giving some positive criticism to help improve the app.

If you are unable to take such criticism, then I suggest you consider a career change.

Re: I was thinking to quit N900 development...
 

There's no rude comment in the page you linked to. If you think that's rude, I don't think you know the meaning of the word.

Re: I was thinking to quit N900 development...
 

laterz... dont let the door hit datazz on the way out

Re: I was thinking to quit N900 development...
 

As a developer shouldn't you consider it as a feedback rather than a rude comment? Developers enhance their programs through negative feedbacks not abandoning it when hearing one only.. :/

Re: I was thinking to quit N900 development...
 

I have nothing to do with this, but it's because of the criticism that we improve.
Don't give up!

Re: I was thinking to quit N900 development...
 

Seems like a very bad excuse to me, to leave this community for that cause.

Re: I was thinking to quit N900 development...
 

It's not a career, though. It's some guy giving up his spare time to provide something of use to others. Maybe the OP is more sensitive to criticism than others, and there's nothing wrong with making suggestions. The problem is the tone that is used by some when passing comment.

It's telling that those that pass the harshest comments on the efforts of others are also those that have contributed a big fat zero to this community.

Re: I was thinking to quit N900 development...
 

This is called user feedback. If Open Source community could stay aware about this it only could improve the quality of the apps.

This is what is happening every single day in commercial world.
Devs are struggling to understand some user requirements, sometimes they are just plain stupid, true. There is no way that user can understand development process. But in other hand there is no more useful information source. They care about tangible stuff, no mater how beautiful it is under the hood.

As long as critic is constructive, giving you power and motivation to improve your stuff. If not, you are not ready to call yourself developer... maybe coder.. but not developer.

We definitely need developers here.

Re: I was thinking to quit N900 development...
 

"Daddy's Little Helper" LOL :D I thought it was something completely different...

Re: I was thinking to quit N900 development...
 

Why can't we all just get along ! I still enjoy using my N900.

Re: I was thinking to quit N900 development...
 

I wish there was a slap button...I miss IRC...

Re: I was thinking to quit N900 development...
 

Positive criticism: I think you have to improve this and that blah blah...
Rude criticism: I didn't understand a thing of your app (since I use note and it's better) so you're app is useless...

This is a spare time hobby, not a career.

This isn't the main reason for quitting, this is only the last drop.

PS: I passed by just to say hello not to start a flame war!!!

Re: I was thinking to quit N900 development...
 

You know, around here even a blank post could cause massive death.

Re: I was thinking to quit N900 development...
 

I am at the hello world stage so I can't comment on what developers face, but a quick reading of that, it is bordering on rude. There are ways to say things that impart criticism while at the same time showing appreciation, this comment had none of the latter.

Re: I was thinking to quit N900 development...
 

Really? Because what it looked like to me was 'i'm quitting and it's all because of that guy.'

Besides, I think we're all tired of 'i'm quitting the n900' threads by now.

Re: I was thinking to quit N900 development...
 

Although I've skipped the N900 and I barely use my N800 anymore, finding that my Android devices are serving all my needs lately, I would think that it's an incredible shame that this is all it would take to dissuade you from writing your application on a platform you're comfortable with.

Although I agree that the comment lacked tact, looking past the disgraceful construction of the comment to the substance can be useful. If it's useful and you fix it, you might find far more positive responses in general. Just the same, I hope you have better experiences forthcoming whether or not you remain on this platform or I find you on another.

For what it's worth, I hadn't seen this app before and was pretty happy to see that someone wrote a good, useful application like this for new fathers, despite your fall-out with the comment.

Re: I was thinking to quit N900 development...
 

Pantera lmao.... all jokes aside, i am sad to see him go but not to rant and rave it kills me that we have to all rely on average joes who do this work as a labor of love. with a device so capable as the n900 there should have been armies of programmers working for nokia getting the job done. its more a testament to my disdain and contempt for nokia than is it for his decision to cut himself loose.

that being said, i appreciate ALL developers and i always throw mad props your way. keep up the fight and further development. this phone is the people's phone. all you programmers and developers made it what it is and not nokia. i wouldnt even think twice in giving any honor to nokia on this device.

nuff said........

Re: I was thinking to quit N900 development...
 

I'd say don't cry over spilled milk, but due to your app all the milk and diapers should be in good order already :)

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+1.

For OP:

Publishing something opens the door for receiving feedback. The feedback may be positive or negative. Also a single piece of feedback is typically describing only one individual's opinion (this one even begins with the constructive argumentation magic words "In my opinion").

Try to view the feedback you receive in a positive way. Someone is actually interested enough on your app to comment on it. That is not a given. Even if the general tone of feedback was negative, it has still has something to give: you will learn what someone else thinks.

Whatever you do in your life, you will certainly encounter critique. Everyone does. Learning to manage the emotions it creates in you will be an useful skill. When all else fails, you can always fall back to "it's easier to talk about things than actually do them".

Re: I was thinking to quit N900 development...
 

However you slice it, the net effect is: (potential) developer - 1

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I just happened to read this today and thought it was relevant:
The second part is whats relevant (IMHO)

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@danramos: I'm quitting N900 development for more serious reasons, as I yet said this is only the last drop. That comment, however, simply missed the whole point. I know my app and I know the specs, trust me! I don't want to bother you with the details!!! :D
@dbrodie: the blogger you linked is a Novell professional developer involved in the Mono project. It's a different situation...

Re: I was thinking to quit N900 development...
 

I wouldn't use this as the last straw, is perhaps my more prescient point, because it does appear thin-skinned or fickle. In my view, it would seem far more appropriate to announce leaving on those more serious reasons. You have my best wishes, just the same, and I hope you do well wherever you go.

Re: I was thinking to quit N900 development...
 

I don't have popcorn anymore... :(

anyone else wants to share popcorn with me?

Re: I was thinking to quit N900 development...
 

You got 5 stars! What else you need? That was really just good old feedback. You should be happy that someone takes also his own time and writes some feedback to you (pssst..he cares). Maybe a bit rude, but if that puts you off them I recommend something totally different.

Re: I was thinking to quit N900 development...
 

People please! That comment was a very nice way of saying what he really meant about that app. I mean come on, no one weigh their little ones before and after they are fed.

Re: I was thinking to quit N900 development...
 

As a developer, I had to hone three skills that allow me to become a hopefully better developer and/or person at the end of the day.

Patience: developers do not see the world in the same way as consumers... the gap sometimes can be amazing.

Comprehension: Learn how to gauge what people are saying and ultimately what they really mean by the net sum of their sentences, not the few words that we dislike. People tend to have verbal diarrhea when it boils down to critiquing an application. They don't have any idea of how much time, sweat, tears, beers, blood, soul went into the application and all of those lines of code. No. They just see that you have a button in a position they just might not like. So what? All things that developers do are basically a work in progress, never finished.

Ability to receive criticism: Just because somebody says one thing, their tone is not always out to hurt, be hurtful, or to misinform you. Simply put, a person that thinks they have a voice might have a valid point or two. But you have to take constructive criticism as well as unsolicited ******** criticism as well. Both might hit you in ways we totally dislike; however you have to look at it as if they are trying to make your product better (ideal) or that they just have an gripe (also ideal). Coding out gripes is what we do.

I understand frustration better than you'd believe. I've been burned out, changed disciplines, changed languages, changed continents (twice), stopped developing, went into art, went back into coding, found a new religion (twice)... and yet I'm still developing.

And I've heard some of the WORSE feedback from users. What that person wrote wasn't bad at all. Unsolicited? Yes. But nowhere near as bad as I've seen.

Good luck with all of your endeavors.

Re: I was thinking to quit N900 development...
 

This is the "best" comment I got for one of my apps
http://maemo.org/downloads/product/M...r-reminder-sp/
(The last comment on the first page)

I don't know why people make a comment just to say they don't
understand for what an application is good for or that they
don't need it.

nicolai

Re: I was thinking to quit N900 development...
 

Sadly, laughed at the comment. It is so unnecessary and tactless a comment that it seemed like a parody. Truthfully, it was so ironic (a pointless posting about how pointless an app can be) that had it been a comment about something I wrote I would have probably thought it was a joke.

Re: I was thinking to quit N900 development...
 

You need to toughen up a lot if you consider that to be rude.
The comment didn't even call into question your skills, or attempt to insult you.
Go read some comments on youtube and popular news websites until the comment in question looks less rude.

Re: I was thinking to quit N900 development...
 

don't quit.. just take a rest.. be quiet for sometimes until u feel like wanna do it back.. ;) chill out man.. develop for fun.. don't push it over the fun.. u wont feel the excite of it.

Re: I was thinking to quit N900 development...
 

Relax people. Don't forget that this is an international forum. Most people on here are would be non-native English speakers and as such wouldn't be able to pick up the nuances.

Re: I was thinking to quit N900 development...
 

No worries, we can work it out :), but thanks for awareness.

Re: I was thinking to quit N900 development...
 

So what's the point of this thread then?

Re: I was thinking to quit N900 development...
 

You will not be the only one to quit N900 development as it is coming to the end of it's lifespan for Nokia and as Meego is taking over Maemo it is inevitable that once the new generation of Meego mobiles start to hit the shops it will be quite a shock to see future development cease for the N900.

Let's just hope this community can keep it going long enough to port future Meego development to the N900 because it is now obvious the N900 is dead and buried very very soon as far as Nokia are concerned.

Sad facts but true.

Re: I was thinking to quit N900 development...
 

You wrote that too? Thanks, because you are almost daily saving me the hassle of reminding my gf over and over again to close the shutter after she finishes using the camera.

So it does not only improve my phone, but my relation as well.

Re: I was thinking to quit N900 development...
 

Hence the ten character minimum for posts. We know we're going to argue over whatever gets posted, but at least having a word or two there makes it slightly less ridiculous.

Smiley wars are so depressing.