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mattbutsko 2010-12-14 20:58

UI Size, opinions
 
Heads up, this isnt a complaint or a request, I just wanna know how TMO feels.

Anyone else think the UI is big? The top bar is around 56 pixels, which is over a tenth of the screen. I'd love if it was shrunk to maybe 38 or 44 pixels, same for MicroB's toolbar, it's huge. Buttons are also pretty big, no big dealio though, and I find myself always dropping the font size in theme customizer two or three points smaller that default.

That's just me of course but what do you all think?

cfh11 2010-12-14 21:32

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To each his own I guess. I use Theme Customizer to make my icons a little bigger and easier to hit with my fat fingers.

MasterZap 2010-12-15 07:52

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YES, the UI is ridiculously big, and I would like to scale everything down to about half size - especially that ridiculous top bar and bottom bar that eats up space everywhere.

Re-themeing can help a *little* but not much :(

/Z

marxian 2010-12-15 08:10

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Developers have to consider all use cases when designing a UI, so while a particular UI component may appear too large to users who have no issues with vision or dexterity, that may not apply to other users.

TiagoTiago 2010-12-15 08:18

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Being able to change the size of the GUI is pretty much an essential feature, for each person and each use a different size is better.

mattbutsko 2010-12-15 19:51

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Quote:

Originally Posted by marxian (Post 897164)
Developers have to consider all use cases when designing a UI, so while a particular UI component may appear too large to users who have no issues with vision or dexterity, that may not apply to other users.

So Nokia should only cater to people who have issues using their device? I know where you're coming from, but just because some people have a hard time seeing, doesn't mean we should all waste a fifth of our screen on UI.

Quote:

Being able to change the size of the GUI is pretty much an essential feature
Agreed.

tzsm98 2010-12-15 20:25

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Quote:

Originally Posted by marxian (Post 897164)
Developers have to consider all use cases when designing a UI, so while a particular UI component may appear too large to users who have no issues with vision or dexterity, that may not apply to other users.

I'm in my mid fifties, my eyes are not what they were 30 years ago. My fingers a bit fatter than used to be also.

Being able to adjust the size of the UI elements would be really good. I'd like to see it done by category of use. Meaning that when I am on a desktop they are larger and when I am in a broswer or other application they are smaller. Most of the touching I do in browsing is on-page rather than on-UI. Usually I am interacting with the application elements and not the status or control elements. A "fade away" status/control element in the UI while focused on an application would allow more room for the application elements.

tzsm98 2010-12-15 20:31

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mattbutsko (Post 897575)
So Nokia should only cater to people who have issues using their device? I know where you're coming from, but just because some people have a hard time seeing, doesn't mean we should all waste a fifth of our screen on UI.



Agreed.

Nokia should only to cater people who have unusually good vision or dexterity?

mattbutsko 2010-12-15 21:49

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Nokia should only to cater people who have unusually good vision or dexterity?
Uh, no. Companies should cater to all of their customers, duh.

msa 2010-12-15 21:59

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i think its small enough.
anyone who used an old windows mobile-phone remembers how horrible it is to navigate through tiny tiny tiny menus with a stylus.
i guess maemo is rather fingerfriendly, and fingerfriendly means big.

TiagoTiago 2010-12-15 23:40

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Regarding this, the physical geometric aspect of the N900 was already done correctly, you got a screen you can easilly thumb everywhere, but it also has a high resolution and for the smaller things programs might put on screen you got the stylus (not to mention that using resistive touch interface allows for an increase in precision and you can use pretty much any pointy thing with it)

mattbutsko 2010-12-15 23:44

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I just wish we had an option to drop everything about 10 pixels. I've used systems with smaller displays and lower/higher pixel densities, worked fine for me.

The reason Windows Mobile sucked at navigation was because it wasn't originally made to be used with a touchscreen.

jd4200 2010-12-15 23:59

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Agreed, the UI is too big for my liking, especially microb toolbar.

Surely this can be done by modifying the hildon-home source code?

JorgeFX 2010-12-16 00:11

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I agree with TiagoTiago, but, I do think the microb toolbar is a little big.

qwazix 2010-12-16 00:13

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ok, wm is on one end, but I would like to be able to choose. Even have modes. The N900 (as the N800 did) can distinguish between finger and stylus presses. So why not dual mode? Press a finger on the screen and UI becomes big and fat. Use the stylus and you are back to diablo looks, or even better, gnome.
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TiagoTiago 2010-12-16 00:35

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How can it detect the difference? The pressure sensitivity?

qwazix 2010-12-16 00:40

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Yes, I don't know technical details but the N800 showed a different on-screen keyboard upon stylus or finger press, and on MyPaint on N900, for some brushes the difference is more than obvious (when drawing with the finger the brush is wide while when drawing with the stylus the pressure varies the opacity, not the width)
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