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festivalnut

2010-12-15 15:24

overclocking (or not) census

just out of curiosity i wanted to see a quick show of hands for how many people are overclocked, and to possibly put the brakes on the "most people have overclocked," "most? hardly any i say!" type of arguments we see on here. also i gather the possibility of flash 10.1 may require an oc'd handset so some numbers could prove useful...

acvetkov

2010-12-15 15:35

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Err who cares and why does it matters?!:confused:
If you want do OC if not, don`t. It is realllly simple. Why do you even talking about flash 10 needing OC phone, when there is NO flash 10 for n900:confused:

Really what is your point here?!

P.S. Make a poll its a waaaaaay easier to see.

P.S. 2 The poll is not correct. Most people overclock their phones by increasing the maxim allowed freq i.e. there is not such thing I sometimes OC and sometimes don`t the kernel chooses the freq of the CPU depending of the load.

marxian

2010-12-15 15:36

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I have tried it, but didn't notice a great deal of improvement in performance. I don't really do heavy multitasking. I also prefer to test my own applications on a device with the stock kernel and no overclocking.

festivalnut

2010-12-15 15:39

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Quote:

Originally Posted by acvetkov (Post 897405)

i care, and i'm sure others do. its a repetitive argument i see here on tmo for starters. i already have been oc'd at 1000mhz for a while now, i'm more interested in what percentage of n900 owners have as opposed to whether i should or not, i dont base those decisions on what others do. there is no flash for n900 you're right, but if you read the threads regarding 10.1 there are some developments where this info may prove useful, or perhaps not. ummm... there is a poll, but thanks for reminding me i hadn't voted myself!

festivalnut

2010-12-15 15:43

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Quote:

Originally Posted by acvetkov (Post 897405)

P.S. 2 The poll is not correct. Most people overclock their phones by increasing the maxim allowed freq i.e. there is not such thing I sometimes OC and sometimes don`t the kernel chooses the freq of the CPU depending of the load.

i am aware of how it works. we're talking maximums here (i assume the 650-1000 confused you?) if you can forgive the semantics for a while its pretty straightforward - if you constantly leave 1000 as your max vote a. if you overclock but stay under 900 vote b. simples. if you wish to abstain please feel free to leave.

Radicalz38

2010-12-15 15:46

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BTW you should include underclocking & undervoltage...

icke	2010-12-15 15:51

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I tried, but didn't get everything runnig again. At first call and sms notifications ceased to work, later I had issues with BlessN900. As taking pictures is one of my main uses, I upstood from over-clocking. However, I did enjoy my 850mHz-times.

icke

MaddogG

2010-12-15 15:52

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Quote:

Originally Posted by acvetkov (Post 897405)

Overclock = increase maximum allowed frequency. Frequency scaling is a different thing.

Btw, I'm also interested in this poll.

In my case, I have my N900 running @1150MHz, "ideal" voltage profile, and I have no problems at all.

festivalnut

2010-12-15 15:57

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Radicalz38 (Post 897417)

BTW you should include underclocking & undervoltage...

i considered it but thought over-complicating the poll may cloud the results, anyone who has underclocked feel free to leave feedback and frequencies as a post though.

shnigi

2010-12-15 16:06

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here running 24/7 125-1100mhz with lv or default voltages.

Switch_

2010-12-15 16:13

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I'd say it was a valid question. I'm overclocked at 1Ghz as a standard boot-up profile for Maemo and the same goes for the NITdroid install I have as a secondary OS. If I'm streaming Flash from the web I might go to 1.15Ghz as there is a performance improvement to be had. I notice a large improvement over standard when overclocked from both loading apps and in-process tasks.

festivalnut

2010-12-15 18:12

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well for the small survey size so far, it looks like most tmo users are overclocking regularly, with only about a quarter not oc'ing at all, i was quite suprised to see this, but obviously this is hardly a complete picture of whats going on. people completely uninterested in oc'in may not even click on the thread. and we need a much larger sample size for any proper analysis. still... interesting...

mtran66

2010-12-15 18:24

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I used to overclock at 900MHz and 1000MHz when I had PR1.2 and it was great.

when I upgraded to PR1.3 I noticed that my battery would drain much faster if I installed the power kernel. I then restored the stock kernel. I didn't see many benefits of overclocking.. phone startup time was marginally faster... flash videos are still choppy at the beginning.

tzsm98

2010-12-15 18:26

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Quote:

Originally Posted by festivalnut (Post 897502)

...i was quite suprised to see this, but obviously this is hardly a complete picture of whats going on. people completely uninterested in oc'in may not even click on the thread. and we need a much larger sample size for any proper analysis. still... interesting...

I trust you are not discounting the results of this survey. If people with no interest in overclocking weren't participating you'd have a 0% that were not overclocking showing in your data. Your survey is showing how pervasive overclocking is in this community. It is very possible that the majority of N900 owners are not overclocked but the subset of owners who are members of this community appear to be overclocked.

125/1100 ideal default configuration

festivalnut

2010-12-15 18:30

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Quote:

Originally Posted by tzsm98 (Post 897517)

oh i'm not discounting it at all, ibut as with all surveys these kind of things affect the outcome, and its useful to acknowledge that before the naysayers jump in and say the figures are useless.

myeyegooogles

2010-12-15 18:51

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I keep it on xlv - limits 500 805, and it runs pretty smooth,

JorgeFX

2010-12-15 19:02

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mtran66 (Post 897514)

when I upgraded to PR1.3 I noticed that my battery would drain much faster if I installed the power kernel. I then restored the stock kernel.

Hey, wait a minute! :S
That happened to me too!!:eek:
I flashed back to fresh state, I didn't wanned to install the power kernel, and my battery last forever. I was wondering yesterday if the power kernel have some issues with PR1.3 and the battery because even on Starving my battery couldnt last more than 16hrs but with stock kernel I'm currently on almost 26hrs:eek:

ER444

2010-12-15 21:34

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Quote:

Originally Posted by icke (Post 897420)

I am overclocked with limits 125 850. Love the fluidity and speed of the device. That is, I do notice a difference. I also am a great fan of BlessN900, have taken terrific pics of winter scenes as well as night photos of the beautiful Christmas decorations where I live. No problems here. Merry Christmas www.edwardrandall.com

MINKIN2

2010-12-15 21:49

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Running @850mhz for 8 months now 24/7

I also have 1000mhz widget for heavy usage.

geneven

2010-12-15 22:34

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The reason for this poll is that people have recently made outrageous misstatements about overclocking. Someone recently was quite sure that most people here overclock, and the speed they overclock at is 1.1 Ghz.

That is of course absurd, and the reasonable way to prove it's not true is to poll people.

BTW: I do regularly oc to 900 mHz max, but I have never even tried faster, not even once.

strange1712

2010-12-16 07:35

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About 6 months OC@900Mhz(max; 500 min) with stock voltage, undervolting (as in "ideal profile") caused video recording failures, at least in 1.2. No problems at all but it once "reboot unexpectedly" when decompressing a couple GB tar.gz file, maybe it overheated or violated some memory region, don't know.
Performance boost is really noticeable, specially psx4m games really need OC. Also some rmvb videos.

sverik

2010-12-16 08:47

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hi..i was running with ideal constantly 900 Mhz.it was perfect, the reason is that Im in work all time on gprs connection (web,facebook,skype), calls, sms, emails...and for this usage it was really fine. but im worried if it did not short the lifetime of processor.what do you think abou it..the temperature was max 35°C..

Erazor

2010-12-16 09:05

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here is my profile

Code:

# DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE - CREATE A COPY OF IT FOR CUSTOMIZATION 

# minimum frequency to use

MINFREQ=125

# maximum frequency to use

MAXFREQ=750

# list of frequency configurations: each "frequency:volt,dsprate"

FREQS="0:30,90 125:30,90 250:30,360 500:30,360 550:33,400 600:38,430 700:45,430 750:45,430 805:48,430 850:48,500 900:54,500 950:54,500 1000:60,500 1100:72,520 1150:72,520"

SMARTREFLEX_VDD1=0

SMARTREFLEX_VDD2=0

GOVERNOR=ondemand

UP_THRESHOLD=75

SAMPLING_RATE=150000

IGNORE_NICE_LOAD=1

POWERSAVE_BIAS=0

max heat is 43Celsius
in high and long usage

all works fine and smooth :) including flash videos ;)

and i will never ever go to the normal state xD
my battery stands for 1 day @ high useage

i'm fine with my profile
my n900 likes it, too :D

Greetz
Erazor

MaddogG

2010-12-16 09:13

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/*OFF OPIC*/

Quote:

Originally Posted by geneven (Post 897704)

I think you are talking about me (http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...postcount=1660), but tell me if I'm wrong, I will immediatly apologize and delete this post :)

Outrageous? Absurd? :confused:
First of all, I was only speculating, I was not "quite sure": I didn't say "I know that everyone overclock", and I didn't say "I am sure that the majority of us is overclocking", I only expressed my thought (I said "I think") and tried to explain it. Instead, you are sure that I was wrong, and that my error was otrageus: on which bases do you think I could have been outrageus? Maybe what I think is absurd as you said (I don't think so, maybe it's simply not true: this poll will show us), but not otrageus. Why are you so angry?

Btw, I didn't say 1.1GHz, but 1GHz: 100MHz of difference are important when talking about a 600MHz processor :p

/*OFF TOPIC END*/

kevloral

2010-12-16 09:30

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I have been running this profile for months now:

MINFREQ=125
MAXFREQ=900
FREQS="0:22,90 250:28,180 500:29,360 550:32,400 600:34,430 700:41,430 750:42,430 805:45,430 850:46,500 900:49,500 950:52,500 1000:55,500 1100:63,520 1150:69,520 "
SMARTREFLEX_VDD1=0
SMARTREFLEX_VDD2=0
GOVERNOR=ondemand
IGNORE_NICE_LOAD=1
UP_THRESHOLD=75
SAMPLING_RATE=150000
POWERSAVE_BIAS=0

sverik

2010-12-16 10:27

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current kernel configuration:
current frequency: 900
supported frequencies: 125 250 500 550 600 700 750 805 850 900 950 1000 1100 1150
min. frequency: 900
max. frequency: 900
avoid frequencies: 125 250
active frequencies: 0:25,90 500:30,360 550:33,400 600:38,430 700:45,430 750:45,430 805:48,430 850:48,500 900:54,500 950:54,500 1000:60,500 1100:72,520 1150:72,520
SmartReflex VDD1=0, VDD2=0
governor ondemand: ignore nice load= 1, up threshold= 75, sampling rate= 150000, powersave bias= 0

thats it...what do you think?

Erazor

2010-12-16 10:32

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Quote:

Originally Posted by sverik (Post 897992)

everytime on 900MHz o.O

thats a way to heavy :D

festivalnut

2010-12-16 14:29

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Quote:

Originally Posted by sverik (Post 897992)

turn the minimum down or u really will fry it!!

Switch_

2010-12-16 14:35

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It only heats up under load. It can be running at 900Mhz comfortably without issue so long as there is zero load on it. Once load is applied and it starts to have worker threads that's when the heat starts to build up as the current starts to pass through it.

Although I do side with the idea of maybe turning min frequency down to about 500Mhz.

festivalnut

2010-12-16 14:38

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MaddogG (Post 897938)

I think you are talking about me (http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...postcount=1660), but tell me if I'm wrong, I will immediatly apologize and delete this post :)

dont take it personally, for one it wasn't geneven who started this poll it was me, i believe i did see your comment but its hardly the only one on these lines. so yes that is ONE of the reasons for this poll. not to debunk your claims or make you look stupid but so we can actually have an idea of the real picture, and the next time you wont have to make a wild guess as to percentages of oc'ers, and up until now the rebuttles to these kind of claims were based upon as much evidence as the claims themselves. with many saying only the hardcore overclock.

this wasn't the only reason for the poll, but it was a biggy.

Erazor

2010-12-16 15:03

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Switch_ (Post 898087)

but when you have a process running on 100% load and put the N900 in your bag...... yeah... Burning down the house *singing* xD

but everyone decide his own choice.

BUT PLEASE
stop crying when the N900 goes down
and say

stupid phone or something else

All who overclock the cpu!!!

you can calculate the % of overclocking ;)

people arround the world can do jobs with 180% power.
but how long :)

MaddogG

2010-12-16 15:13

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Quote:

Originally Posted by festivalnut (Post 898090)

I have nothing against you and your poll: I think you had a good idea! And, if you opened this poll also because of me, it's not a problem at all: why it should be? If this poll will prove I'm wrong I will not run away crying desperately :D
Simply, I don't like lack of respect by some people here on TMO (I'm not talking about you, obviously...).

Ok, stop talking about me, please, let's go back to the topic :)

sverik

2010-12-16 21:19

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i dont want to fry it...thats why i asked you people...now im testing xlv_250_900...
(also i dont want to burn my house :-D, just need to find the best frequency)
thanks for replies.

geneven

2010-12-16 21:41

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MaddogG (Post 897938)

/*OFF OPIC*/

I think you are talking about me (http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...postcount=1660), but tell me if I'm wrong, I will immediatly apologize and delete this post :)

Outrageous? Absurd? :confused:
First of all, I was only speculating, I was not "quite sure": I didn't say "I know that everyone overclock", and I didn't say "I am sure that the majority of us is overclocking", I only expressed my thought (I said "I think") and tried to explain it. Instead, you are sure that I was wrong, and that my error was otrageus: on which bases do you think I could have been outrageus? Maybe what I think is absurd as you said (I don't think so, maybe it's simply not true: this poll will show us), but not otrageus. Why are you so angry?

Btw, I didn't say 1.1GHz, but 1GHz: 100MHz of difference are important when talking about a 600MHz processor :p

/*OFF TOPIC END*/

Yes, it was you. It makes me mad because it is so far from reality. It's like guessing the typical American driver goes 90 mph daily. If you are going to guess at something, at least have glanced at the evidence.

It is clear to anyone who has spent a while reading the Overclocking thread that users overclocking at more than 1 gHz are relatively rare. Most of those who do are happy, but that is not the issue.

A poll is the best way to counter your off-the-planet assertion.

JohnLF

2010-12-16 22:56

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Have never overclocked my N900. On a two year contract, first year ends at the end of January. I figure I will overclock then and have a brand new feeling phone for the 2nd year
:-D

geneven

2010-12-16 23:04

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Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnLF (Post 898414)

Have never overclocked my N900. On a two year contract, first year ends at the end of January. I figure I will overclock then and have a brand new feeling phone for the 2nd year
:-D

Yes, the warranty issue stops many people from overclocking, I'm sure. I personally only got a one-week warranty from Nokia so it wasn't a factor for me.

qwazix

2010-12-16 23:40

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I installed powerkernel for an app (I don't remember which, maybe mobilehotspot) and I tried it, then Fcamera came which was incompatible and I returned to stock. I've never felt the need to bother again to install the powerkernel now that it is compatible. Maybe when I start MyPainting again...
________
About69

luiscesjr

2010-12-16 23:52

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I don't use omap kernel for maybe 1 month, running everyday kernel-power at 950.
If I put my device to charge, use WiFi to download something, and for
example watch a movie/play something it gets up to 58°C.
It's really, really hot, but also because of my country's temp these times.
Need to see how it is when it's winter... probably not much difference,
as the lowest climate temp I could get here is 15°C ( what for me is alreay freezing ).

Crogge

2010-12-16 23:56

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I have mine running since months at 900MHz with the LV/ULV profile and got no issues at all, just a way faster mobile :)

mthmob

2010-12-17 00:13

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As long as there has been no reports of burned device.. im not gonna clock my device down again. ive been running 900-950 since OCing became possible with kernel power. atm i run starving profile with limits 500 950. works great. no errors for many months.

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