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Joseph.skb 2010-12-20 08:46

After the Nokia N900...
 
After having experienced the Nokia N900, which phone would you get next (replacement phone)?

magullo 2010-12-20 09:06

Re: After the Nokia N900...
 
Probably I'd go back to a more "professional" phone, don't know if BB or Nokia E series.
The most wanted feature will be email and long lasting battery.

johnel 2010-12-20 09:09

Re: After the Nokia N900...
 
I'm into my second year of my phone contract and plan to keep my n900 well beyond that.

Currently I use my n900:
Logitect PS3 Media Pro Keyboard/trackpad with ...
...Easy Debian - "Linux in my pocket"
Emulators: GBA, VB, C64, ZX Spectrum
SunVox - amazing app to make music
other ported Linux software too.
I've also overclocked my n900 to 900mhz (makes a massive difference)

At the moment no other phone offers me any of this in a meaningful way.

Meego is currently in development and I'll quite happily wait and see how is eventually develops.

If I really had to choose a different phone it would probably be android-based.
Unfortunately it is almost impossible to port Linux-based software over to it. That's the only thing stopping me from switching.

zehjotkah 2010-12-20 09:18

Re: After the Nokia N900...
 
Of course the N9 or an Intel Atom based MeeGo phone...

frostbyte 2010-12-20 09:40

Re: After the Nokia N900...
 
whatever device that'll bring give me rocket launchers. i need me some g**damn rocket launchers.

maverick788us 2010-12-20 09:52

Re: After the Nokia N900...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by frostbyte (Post 900408)
whatever device that'll bring give me rocket launchers. i need me some g**damn rocket launchers.

Its been more than an year when N900 was launched and still I don'nt see any device having so many capabilities as N900 have. It has to be a successor of N900 that I will go for. For me a complete Quwerty keyboard is a NEED alongwith the touchscreen. So I don;t think moving into iPhone 4 or Galaxy S would ever make me comfortable, while typing text.

ifraaz 2010-12-20 09:57

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I'd stick with N900 of course, But I also want to have a user friendly phone ; HTC ??

Larswad 2010-12-20 10:06

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The thing I don't like that much about the androids is that they are not designed to run any code natively. I am not much of a java fan and I hate sandbox environments for their realtime performance penalties. At least, when it comes to embedded devices in which category I believe these kinds of devices fall into. It just doesn't feel real to me.
I also find the development environments for Maemo (and the upcoming MeeGo) much more attractive. The QtCreator together with Madde is just unbeatable. The androids are said to be based on Linux, and yes they are but in my opinion all that linux power is totally abstracted to the the user and developers. You can in fact develop native code from what I've understood, but then either you do that in some library where you can call that from java, or you may need to root your device.
Heh? Well, that's not my cup of tea.

The N900 feels like a *real* handheld linux distribution to me and from that aspect with everything it means I don't believe any androids can compete (and probably they are not really intended to either).

The iPhone (or anything else with an i in front of) is totally out of the question for me, I just regard them as a market hype and they irritate me beyond sanity sometimes.
People talk about their truly amazing and "easy to use" user interface, and "it just works".
Well, from what I have seen I am not the least impressed, I can do much better when it comes to flexibility (the hildon desktop can be customized in so many ways, even without installing any patches or addons) and user friendliness on Maemo.
I can use my N900 resistive screen even with my gloves on (its cold where I live), and the precision is still amazing (ok, with boxer gloves I admit we might have a problem).
Where are the i-people gonna go, when they want their PHONE to do something else than "just work" in that one way that the fruit company decided to.

Indeed the N900 has a few quirks here and there, and sadly enough Nokia is not supporting it as much as they should, but it still totally blows me away and the community here just rocks.

So, there are not many alternatives at all for me these days, I just have to sit and wait to see how MeeGo develops, and maybe if my N900 some day break down I may have to replace it with a N9.

Time will tell.

icebox 2010-12-20 10:10

Re: After the Nokia N900...
 
Since I have just bought the n900 last month I plan to use it for some time now...

msa 2010-12-20 10:14

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i'm definitely not doing the early-adopter again.

frostbyte 2010-12-20 10:22

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with Maemo, we are not early adopters. we are the final adopters

AndiThebest 2010-12-20 10:37

Re: After the Nokia N900...
 
If MeeGo is nice when its finished, the N9 will rock the world ;)

boldap 2010-12-20 10:58

Re: After the Nokia N900...
 
After the Nokia N900, i see Nokia N900.

tusharmax 2010-12-20 11:02

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meego based device , ofcourse if it doesnt turn out to be a close sourced device ! for me n900 was always a sci-fi device.. very much on the lines of the device use by the kid in terminator 2 to bypass ATM security to withdraw cash. Few years from now some of us will know how N900 truly revolutionised pocket computing !

maluka 2010-12-20 11:02

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Definitely a Nokia MeeGo phone. N900 2.0 should be epic!

lwa 2010-12-20 11:09

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After twelve months I'm starting to get bored with my n900... I just bought a galaxy tab and I have to admit I'm really impressed with android. I plan on keeping my n900 until march when I can upgrade my contact for free. Will then probably look at n9 or nexus s (or better if there is something else is out then)
I'm leaning more towards android at this point simply because I'm so impressed at the moment and the n9 will be a gamble

Kangal 2010-12-20 11:22

Re: After the Nokia N900...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by zehjotkah (Post 900395)
Of course the N9 or an Intel Atom based MeeGo phone...

It'll be based on ST-Ericson's U8500 (better than Tegra2/Orion iirc).
http://conference2010.meego.com/sess...naro-and-meego

koivjann 2010-12-20 11:35

Re: After the Nokia N900...
 
E7 just after but have to see what is the Meego in Nokia device. maybe I stay also with N900 with Harmattan

twigleaf1976 2010-12-20 11:40

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I think something from HTC and probably Android as the Desire looked and acts like a very, very good phone. One year in and I am still arguing with the N900 for the basics I thought I would have had by now. My Maemo experience have put me right off anything Nokia or Meego based

Joseph.skb 2010-12-20 11:48

Re: After the Nokia N900...
 
I have used 4 other Nokia phones in the past until they practically died, and wouldn't mind replacing with another Nokia after the N900. Nokia may lack some good marketing gimmack to sell phones, but their good phones are, well, good to use.

I recently bought the C6-01 and it's a nice phone to operate. But I think the E7 will be a good contender for the N900.

Maruzko 2010-12-20 11:55

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Quote:

Originally Posted by lwa (Post 900474)
After twelve months I'm starting to get bored with my n900... I just bought a galaxy tab and I have to admit I'm really impressed with android.

Galaxy Tab ? What the ?
Nice big screen but doesnt fit in jeans pockets so easily. ;)

bigdarkmad 2010-12-20 11:55

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Add to the pull Samsung Galaxy S I9000.
Nowdays Galaxy S I9000 already got update to Android 2.2 (2.2.1).
Samsung has already announced Android 2.3 for Galaxy S I9000.
Yes Galaxy is not so geeky, but the screen is amazing.
I had the please to watch animation movie directly from YouTube HD and the picture was crystal clear like DVD or Blue-Ray.
I don't want to compare I9000 and N900, they are in two different categories, but I9000 definitely has future.

lwa 2010-12-20 12:11

Re: After the Nokia N900...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Maruzko (Post 900508)
Galaxy Tab ? What the ?
Nice big screen but doesnt fit in jeans pockets so easily. ;)

Yeah I'm using it purely as a tablet not a phone.. Its replaced my netbook as my couch surfer.

edgedemon 2010-12-20 12:56

Re: After the Nokia N900...
 
Im really not sure yet..

The N900 has been the best phone I have ever owned. I have finished my 1yr contract and Im going to wait and see what happens.
Im tempted by the N9 or whatever it will be called, and like the idea of Meego, but it depends on certain things..

Decent map support

Ovi maps is pants on the N900, just looking at google maps 5 makes me green with envy

Stellarium getting updated to work with Meego and support a digital compass, Im forever using google night sky on my partners HTC desire

Better application support for Meego? Im unlucky enough to have alot of magazine subscriptions through zinio reader, they do an iphone app and an android app, Im hoping for a meego app..

Better google syncing - its a must..

I like Maemo, and Im hoping that Meego will be a success so that everyone starts bringing apps out for it by default as it becomes more widespread. I want 'there is an app for that' to apply for Meego, not just android or apple.

Luckily, because I have such a good phone I can wait as I can't see anyone knowing whether Meego will be a success until v2.0 or beyond as it takes time to build the apps and the user base.

I hope it does succeed, if it fails, then I will probably go down the android route, but due to this community and the n900's brilliance, I can hold off a while and see how things pan out before getting another phone :)

Venty 2010-12-20 13:09

Re: After the Nokia N900...
 
My next phone... hmm...

It has to be open (as in "getting root" on the command line).
It also has to offer the same connectivity options as the N900, like Skype, Jabber (Jingle), SIP and all that.

The N8 does not feature neither of these options, no Skype, no Jabber or other IM integration. Switching to such a phone would feel like a massive downgrade for me, although the hardware is very nice.

Told that to a Nokia sales rep when they had a booth with the new N8 on display in a mall recently. Nokia builds great hardware, no doubt. But I don't want to be limited anymore by the OS with missing features!

johnel 2010-12-20 13:38

Re: After the Nokia N900...
 
I like the idea of the N9 however...

DRM will be present on the phone - how locked down will it be?

Nokia's track record on software management, support and communication is well dodgy -

"It's like a masterbating monkey trying to recite the sonnets of William Shakespeare while flying a helicopter and trying to solve the Hodge conjecture all at the same time"

I want to like the N9 and MeeGo but I will wait and see.

At the moment the N9 is the closest thing to the successor of the N900.

Tedri Mark 2010-12-20 13:38

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Depends what the n9 is like, although by the time my contract is up it will be at least a year old (if it is released before June)

Right now I wouldn't swap my n900 for anything else I've seen..

Larswad 2010-12-20 13:54

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Quote:

"it's like a masterbating monkey trying to recite the sonnets of william shakespeare while flying a helicopter and trying to solve the hodge conjecture all at the same time"
lol

:D :D :D

edgedemon 2010-12-20 15:33

Re: After the Nokia N900...
 
It is things like this that make me hold off on my next phone

amazon-updates-android-kindle

Im hanging on hoping that this sort of thing will come to Meego..

riverus 2010-12-20 16:00

Re: After the Nokia N900...
 
I think WebOS devices is definitely a choice. This is the only OS which bring me some excitements, and offer a lot if you want to delve into the development world.

daperl 2010-12-20 16:20

Re: After the Nokia N900...
 
After the n900, Jesus will weep.

geneven 2010-12-20 16:54

Re: After the Nokia N900...
 
Keep the N900 as long as feasable, get a tablet of some kind. Not Nokia.

warren 2010-12-20 18:09

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after n900.... what do you guys think about xperia x10 ? it look nice to me, but i dont know compared to n900
It has 1GHz processor and can be overclock

fasza2 2010-12-20 18:49

Re: After the Nokia N900...
 
Why isn't there any option in the poll for MeeGo? I chose others just because of that. Still love N900 though and if one came out with up to date hardware would consider getting it.

Raif 2010-12-20 19:19

Re: After the Nokia N900...
 
I honestly dont know. There is nothing else on the market that is even slightly tempting at the moment.

Apple can go jump, I hate there complete lock down and the way they expect there customers to follow blindly like sheep.

My wife has a Galaxy S with froyo 2.2 which while is impressive in terms of screen quality, just seems lacking in ability after 15 minutes of tinkering.

I've had my N900 nearly 12 months now & have another 12 on contract; by this time a suitable successor running meego should be released and stable.

If that doesnt stack up then I think I will be sticking with my N900!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

windows7 2010-12-20 19:29

Re: After the Nokia N900...
 
Well my n900 is packed up again, only this time looks like it has packed up for good with what it looks like a hardware failure, and i'm on 24 month contract so currently I'm using my good old n95.

webOS at the moment is a very strong contender for me, but even android or iphone are a much stronger contender then nokia is. In the past market strengths pushed software vendors out there to publish decent apps, this time, software vendors and Nokia itself are not interested in producing decent apps for the n900, time is money and n900 is certainly wasting many peoples time waiting for application like full version of opera browser, latest version of flash, coreplayer, sat navigation(instead nokia sells this to n900 users), and many other decent bits of software that are available for other platforms out there, the maemo alternatives are simply at this point not as good, in fact we have seen better results from end user projects like the webOS games porting project to maemo then any other software vendor out there has given us. The lack of a compass in the n900 is certain probably killed this device, when people out there are using QT to create top apps for symbian and other platforms but not for the n900. The things i liked about n900 were the physical keyboard, the screensize and the diskspace of the n900, if that was on another phone like a webOS, android or iphone then we would a perfect phone.

edanto 2010-12-21 08:58

Re: After the Nokia N900...
 
For me, I grew tired of the N900 not having the basic features like a smooth email client, and I bought a HTC Desire. It's honestly 10 times better, for me.

This will probably be my last post here, other than to sell the n900 to someone who really likes tinkering under the hood.

Thank you to the community here, and farewell.

ginjasilver 2010-12-24 11:06

Re: After the Nokia N900...
 
Nokia N901 Ameego (Amigo = friend):confused:;) :)
Nokia N900 & the others:cool:
(-) Hardware - the weight, the battery, appearance:(
(-) Software - no software to see the stars like the Iphone:eek::rolleyes:
(+) With fewer limits, all in one, the best at now;)

Wikiwide 2010-12-30 12:41

Re: After the Nokia N900...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ginjasilver (Post 903380)
Nokia N901 Ameego (Amigo = friend):confused:;) :)
Nokia N900 & the others:cool:
(-) Hardware - the weight, the battery, appearance:(
(-) Software - no software to see the stars like the Iphone:eek::rolleyes:
(+) With fewer limits, all in one, the best at now;)

Appearance is serious, it's not a toy; a good full QWERTY keyboard.
Stars: Stellarium, Orrery.
The best, agreed;)

Joseph.skb 2010-12-30 12:51

Re: After the Nokia N900...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ginjasilver (Post 903380)
(-) Software - no software to see the stars like the Iphone:eek::rolleyes:

You could someone knock you over the head with the N900 :p (just kidding)


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