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tswindell 2010-12-21 19:02

[ANNOUNCE] Columbus Navigation Toolkit
 
http://stage.rubyx.co.uk/columbus/status-landscape.png

This is a little app I've been working on over the past few months on and off. Currently its' most notable features are NMEA data streaming over network, bluetooth or as a USB serial device.

More screen shots at: http://stage.rubyx.co.uk/columbus/index.html

It's available in extras-devel now, stay tuned for updates and let me know what you want feature wise or bugs you find here.

(Enjoy! MERRY CHRISTMAS)

FRuMMaGe 2010-12-21 19:04

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Very nice looking application. How stable is the current version?

tswindell 2010-12-21 19:06

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Quote:

Originally Posted by FRuMMaGe (Post 901513)
Very nice looking application. How stable is the current version?

It's pretty stable, it's quite nice on power as well. So if you lock the screen it'll log/stream data quite nicely and not effect your battery too bad.

shnigi 2010-12-21 19:07

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Looks nice, atleast a program with nice ui

treofant 2010-12-21 19:11

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hi, cool app IŽll give it a try. thanx for your work.

FRuMMaGe 2010-12-21 19:13

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Sorry for the ignorance, but what would I actually use this for? I've never really used the GPS before.

If you were explaining the use for it to someone who has not used gps, how would you describe it?

tswindell 2010-12-21 19:29

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Quote:

Originally Posted by FRuMMaGe (Post 901525)
Sorry for the ignorance, but what would I actually use this for? I've never really used the GPS before.

If you were explaining the use for it to someone who has not used gps, how would you describe it?

Well, it allows you to use your N900 as a Bluetooth or a USB GPS dongle. It also allows you to log your journeys. It will soon have waypoints, so you can save locations like bookmarks and make it easy to navigate back to them. It has and will have better support for trip statistics, averages etc. good if you like cycling, walking or other sports where it may be interesting to find out stats.

elie-7 2010-12-21 19:47

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Quote:

Originally Posted by tswindell (Post 901506)
http://stage.rubyx.co.uk/columbus/status-landscape.png

This is a little app I've been working on over the past few months on and off. Currently its' most notable features are NMEA data streaming over network, bluetooth or as a USB serial device.

More screen shots at: http://stage.rubyx.co.uk/columbus/index.html

It's available in extras-devel now, stay tuned for updates and let me know what you want feature wise or bugs you find here.

(Enjoy! MERRY CHRISTMAS)

wow thats nice, i like it, i think it only needs maps .
nice job man .

aenbacka 2010-12-21 19:51

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Quote:

Originally Posted by elie-7 (Post 901546)
wow thats nice, i like it, i think it only needs maps .
nice job man .

I think that this app definitely has the potential for nautical navigation use (with sea charts / waypoints etc. support). Very nice work! :)

tswindell 2010-12-21 19:55

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Quote:

Originally Posted by aenbacka (Post 901547)
I think that this app definitely has the potential for nautical navigation use (with sea charts / waypoints etc. support). Very nice work! :)

That's what I'm aiming at, it already has a Nautical units mode in the options menu ;)

AndiThebest 2010-12-21 19:56

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Quote:

Originally Posted by elie-7 (Post 901546)
wow thats nice, i like it, i think it only needs maps .
nice job man .

Columbus did'nt have maps too ;)

tswindell 2010-12-21 20:03

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Originally Posted by AndiThebest (Post 901553)
Columbus did'nt have maps too ;)

With so many mapping applications already available, it wasn't a major concern to me. I much rather wanted to create a user experience like using a hand held GPS receiver like a Garmin for instance.

FRuMMaGe 2010-12-21 20:03

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Originally Posted by AndiThebest (Post 901553)
Columbus did'nt have maps too ;)

I'm faily sure Columbus didn't have an N900 either :p

tswindell 2010-12-21 20:08

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Originally Posted by FRuMMaGe (Post 901561)
I'm faily sure Columbus didn't have an N900 either :p

But if he did, I bet he'd use my app! :D

tswindell 2010-12-21 20:38

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Okay, an updated version is in extras-devel now: http://maemo.org/packages/package_in...umbus/0.8.2-1/
Which has two silly fixes in it, one was a segfault when disabling the bluetooth server service. And the other was a dependency problem in the packaging control file.
My plan is to, once validated that this code is stable, promote it to extras-testing. I will then continue unstable development in the extras-devel repository and once I reach my v1.0 feature landmarks I'll promote that to proper extras.

Venemo 2010-12-21 20:56

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I only have two words about this app:
Good stuff.

jrinconr 2010-12-21 20:57

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hi, can i save the NMEA data in a txt file??? it would be nice for me

tswindell 2010-12-21 21:00

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Originally Posted by jrinconr (Post 901601)
hi, can i save the NMEA data in a txt file??? it would be nice for me

Why, yes you can :) In the menu there's the "Logging" dialog, it saves logs date stamped to: /home/user/.cache/rx/columbus

ukki 2010-12-21 21:26

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Merry christmas Tom.

king Ralphred 2010-12-21 21:32

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This has me so excited. I've been waiting for a garmin type app all my life (well 9 months since I said bye to the iphone). Just downloaded it and had quick play, is there or will there be the option to enter co-ordinates to use with real maps, you know, the ones made of paper? Would love to use it for hiking. Thanks again. F**k me it's cold in Ireland

tswindell 2010-12-21 21:37

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Originally Posted by king Ralphred (Post 901626)
This has me so excited. I've been waiting for a garmin type app all my life (well 9 months since I said bye to the iphone). Just downloaded it and had quick play, is there or will there be the option to enter co-ordinates to use with real maps, you know, the ones made of paper? Would love to use it for hiking. Thanks again. F**k me it's cold in Ireland

Configuring and saving waypoints/landmarks is the next feature I plan on implementing.

casper27 2010-12-21 21:42

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Wow is all I have to say and I don't say that very often. Brilliant interface and very receptive too. I will give it a proper try on the hills on thurs and report back. Hats off :)

MohammadAG 2010-12-21 22:13

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A wonderful app with an excellent UI, though it has a small annoying bug; a missing donate button ;)

Oh and Merry Christmas everyone :) I don't celebrate it, but still :P

slender 2010-12-21 22:31

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btw. Have you made any power comparison between different GPS log apps on N900? Any powertop analyzes? How does this app compare to (while n900 is locked) other loggers on power consumption?

tswindell 2010-12-21 22:38

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Originally Posted by slender (Post 901668)
btw. Have you made any power comparison between different GPS log apps on N900? Any powertop analyzes? How does this app compare to (while n900 is locked) other loggers on power consumption?

I have not, though I would be interested in the results if you're offering :)

jrinconr 2010-12-22 00:13

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Originally Posted by tswindell (Post 901605)
Why, yes you can :) In the menu there's the "Logging" dialog, it saves logs date stamped to: /home/user/.cache/rx/columbus

I'll try to do some calculations to get a better GPS fix. And it's easier for me if I have data in NMEA format. (something like DGPS)

thanks and Merry christmas

Joaquin

tswindell 2010-12-22 07:48

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jrinconr (Post 901717)
I'll try to do some calculations to get a better GPS fix. And it's easier for me if I have data in NMEA format. (something like DGPS)

thanks and Merry christmas

Joaquin

Well, it should work fine for you. At the moment NMEA is all I support for data logging but I plan to implement more data formats in the future.

N3d0 2010-12-22 08:55

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Quote:

Originally Posted by aenbacka (Post 901547)
I think that this app definitely has the potential for nautical navigation use (with sea charts / waypoints etc. support). Very nice work! :)

Very nice UI, sea maps for nautical use would be very appreciate.
Thank you.

tswindell 2010-12-22 09:46

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Originally Posted by N3d0 (Post 901892)
Very nice UI, sea maps for nautical use would be very appreciate.
Thank you.

I'll see what I can do. I was thinking of putting in some form of charting, but it probably wont be conventional maps. (Though, never say never). Charts/Maps? will be added after 1.0 so you might be in for a bit of a wait :(

scudderfish 2010-12-22 09:51

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Do you have a publically visible SCM? I'd like to use your BT code in my own project and track any changes you make.

Regards,
Dave

tswindell 2010-12-22 09:59

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Originally Posted by scudderfish (Post 901920)
Do you have a publically visible SCM? I'd like to use your BT code in my own project and track any changes you make.

Regards,
Dave

I plan to put it into gitorious soon, haven't gotten around to it yet. I'll post here when it's ready, probably some time over the next few days.

stickymick 2010-12-22 10:09

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Gonna install this and have a play about.

It actually reminds me of an app that I used to use on the N95. Can't remember what it was called, but it was available from Nokia Betalabs.
I actually tracked my whole 300 mile journey from Suffolk to Exeter and back again. Glad they had power points on the trains so I could recharge my battery. :p

rotoflex 2010-12-22 12:46

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When starting the program while not connected to a network, & with Network Connection disabled in Tools, N900 prompts to select a network connection.

bobh 2010-12-22 12:47

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Quote:

Originally Posted by tswindell (Post 901628)
Configuring and saving waypoints/landmarks is the next feature I plan on implementing.

I'd like to have it display the GPS time.

tswindell 2010-12-22 12:59

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Originally Posted by rotoflex (Post 902005)
When starting the program while not connected to a network, & with Network Connection disabled in Tools, N900 prompts to select a network connection.

Assisted GPS, unfortunately that's out of my control :/

tswindell 2010-12-22 13:00

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Originally Posted by bobh (Post 902006)
I'd like to have it display the GPS time.

Yeah, I'll add that, it's been on my minor tweaks list for ages as well ;)

handaxe 2010-12-22 16:21

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Congratulations on the interface. Technically impressive and efficient. And at last a replacement on the n900 for the uninstallable mini-gpsd.

Waypoint averaging would be nice....

A festive time to all.....
HA

stickymick 2010-12-22 17:56

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gave it a go this evening on my way home from work. Worked quite well, but a few suggestions, if I may.

A zoom or scroll function for the tracker screen, so the whole track can be reviewed would be nice.

Also the ability to save tracks for future reference at a later date. Would also be a nice touch if it was possible to "play back" saved tracks as well.

Otherwise, everything's looking good so far. ;)

tswindell 2010-12-22 19:06

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Originally Posted by stickymick (Post 902205)
gave it a go this evening on my way home from work. Worked quite well, but a few suggestions, if I may.

A zoom or scroll function for the tracker screen, so the whole track can be reviewed would be nice.

Also the ability to save tracks for future reference at a later date. Would also be a nice touch if it was possible to "play back" saved tracks as well.

Otherwise, everything's looking good so far. ;)

Yeah, all those features are intended for v1.0 so expect them soon. On startup it'll load your previous logs when you've enabled file logging.

Zoom is currently available though not complete, you first have to press on the track view. Then you can use inc/dec buttons (aka volume keys) to zoom in and out. :)

Mentalist Traceur 2010-12-22 19:50

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I would like to request the option of having the default maemo status bar visible. It has the potential to be remarkably ubiquitous, give that it has controls to flashlight and the status bar icons can contain things that the user may wish to see on a regular basis (wifi signal applet, cpumem applet, camera lens reminder - don't use that last one but I know many do). Even more ubiquitous due to MohammadAG's mod of hildon-desktop and hildon-home that allows you to have the status menu come out of the status bar in portrait mode.

At the same time, I understand from using your program that that's probably not very convenient, because right now Columbus Navigation Toolkit is really well designed, and most of the UI elements are placed in a way that leaves little space for a status bar. So I don't recommend making that the default behavior.

But it would be nice if it was possible to have another button to bring out the status bar, or a settings option where you can chose whether or not to have the status bar showing.


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