Will we see something mobile MeeGo related at Mobile World Congress 2011?
 

Will we see something mobile MeeGo related at Mobile World Congress 2011? This includes (finally) the Nokia N9.

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I suspect their might be something. However my suspiction is that Nokia are desperate to get it right so if its anything other than 90% they won't blow it. All I'll say is that after using and adopting the N900 the N9's UI layout is.. a bit different, but that's not necessarily a bad thing. I owe alot to Nokia so we'll wait and see what others make of it.

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If you take a look at MeeGo for Handset's roadmap, MeeGo 1.2 goes gold some time in April. RC is March. We probably won't see anything good at MWC cause nothing "usable" will really be ready. Maybe some slideshows if we're lucky.

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No nothing Meego related.

I guess they will show E7 or similar with Updated Symbian.

This because E7 is still not released and because it seems to mee Nokias Meegoversion is far from ready soo they have to "show something"

Or maybe Nokia will do mosty stupid thing ever and change to Winmobile7 on Nokia E7.

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doubtful. nokia has been dropping the ball on important roll outs, product releases, and information, for as long as I can remember. especially as of late.

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i will not wait longer for the n9 if nokia doesn't give me any new information at the mobile congress.there come many good phones in Q1 2011 and i will not wait for a ghost.
samsung galaxy s2 sounds really nice to me too

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Hearing its very likely N9 will not be announced at the MWC. Hopefully they will at least give some sneak preview of some of the elements of the UX... but they might not even do that. Hearing Symbian will be the make focus at MWC. :(

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Same. MeeGo sounds intresting/great but if its not out by MWC, why wait until Nov for the meamo gathering?

If SOMETHING is not announced by Feb, Im feeling most will (sadly) jump to Android.

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I made this post earlier today, because someone hopped to see the N9 in January of 2011 (Maemo -> TALK -> Elop said N9 is a 2011 event. It's 2011! Where is it?). But i think the post fits here too:

Do you really thought the Nokia N9 would be released in January or even Q1 2011? Don’t expect it until Q2/Q3 2011! Why?
1. The N8 with its huge pre-orders has shown that Symbian isn’t dead and many people still love the look and feel of it.
2. The E7 is delayed. It is expected to hit the stores in 2 or 3 weeks. Do you really think Nokia would announce the N9 in Q1 to hurt the sales of E7? Why should i buy an E7 if a more advanced similar form factor device is around the corner?
3. The N9 was expected for Q4 2010 running with MeeGo-Harmattan (Step5/5). That means the N9 would have been a MeeGo compatible device, but not an entirely Meego Smartphone. But the new CEO delayed the N9 and said Meego would be a 2011 event. In the meantime Ari Jaaksi the „Headman“ of Maemo left Nokia before Harmattan was released. Just Imagine many Years your working on Maemo to make it an awesome mainstream OS, far better then anything else and suddenly you leave the company before your baby sees the daylight. Why would somebody do that? Because his baby Harmattan is skipped by Mr. Elop! He doesn’t want a Hybrid device, no Meego-Harmattan device, but one which is entirely MeeGO! He also skipped Symbian4! Now it is just Symbian and all S3 Handsets like the N8 will get new UI due small updates in 2011 (pr. 2.0/3.0).
4. MeeGo 1.2 is not ready until April 2011. So they have time to improve the UI of Nokias Handset Meego UI, which is done by the former WebOS Designer, the successor of Ari Jaaksi.
5. At the International Mobile Internet Conference 2010 in Peking last month the Nokia Manager Gunther Kottzieper said that first 1Ghz devices from Nokia will be in Q2/Q3 2011.
6. The Next big event to announce the N9 is the MeeGo Conference in May in San Francisco. This is one Month before the whole World is looking at Cupertino and talking about „the super awsome“ Iphone 5. So Nokia will make a big marketing campaign for Meego and the N9, before Apple.
7. Everybody knows today that beside good hardware an an awesome OS you need an huge appstore/marketplace. Now with Qt it is possible to write just one app, which runs on both Symbian and MeeGo! So the apps build with QT for Symbian, will be running with a few changes on the N9! Till Mid 2011 the amount of apps build for Symbian will increase, that means for Meego, just before it is released you have an appstore (ovi store) with many apps for the N9.

Just my 2 cents. BTW: Happy New Year!

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Nokia will definatly fail when it comes to a good marketing campaign, in the states, we never see Nokia commercials. Ever.

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Hopefully that changes.

They are pushing for the US market as well so maybe with all the internal changes they might get a real US campaign like they provide for us lot in Europe :)

I still think Nokia phones are the most well-made phones. They hardly ever break and they just last!

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at MWC Elop is one of the main Speakers, on the floor there will be a Nokia booth, a Nokia/Qt booth, a Symbian Booth and a MeeGo booth all exhibiting.
Nokia have a big presence so i'm almost certain something big is gonna go down.
just sit back, wait and enjoy

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I've been hearing this a lot, but I've yet to really see anything come out of it aside from a low end Nokia 5230 rebrand called the Nuron, I briefly owned one - and a Nokia E73 rebrand called the Mode. T-Mobile marketed both of these as dumb phones which pissed me off pretty hard when I called them asking about some stuff and they tried to tell me "Well sir, the Nuron isn't a smartphone." I was gettin ready to go off about how Symbian was essentially one of the first smartphone OSes, but I just told the rep that "T-Mobile US is effin (censored that) stupid" and hung up.

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Pics or it didn't happen. And what I mean by that is proof, it just didn't fit with the internet meme.

My bad, didn't mean to double post.

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This is truly doubtful. Nothing has surfaced for their very important N8, and it has features that a lot of folks would jump for if they knew about it.

In the US, subsidizing - a tactic that's unique to Central and North America by now, dropped everywhere else - is king. And Nokia has bucked that system more than once.

And honestly... "lost". North America and Japan are different ballparks. One that Nokia no longer knows how to market towards. Their best bet... set up kiosks in Best Buy Mobile centers/areas, actually do some training, make the nokiausa.com experience much better... and subsidize (I know, evil word) the E, C and other series with the fractured North American carriers.

Hell. Perhaps I do need to be on their marketing team.

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Third post in this thread in 15 minutes, but I gotta agree with this.

1 Site is kinda 1998ish in some areas.
2 N900 is still listed, yet hasn't been stocked since, what, August? Had to get mine from Amazon.
3 Site had this weird illuminated area stuck on it when browsing phones, thought my LCD took a ****, got really worried, but it was just the website.
4 About this "US Market Push", where's the C6-01 or the C7? Those phones are brand new S3 devices and we don't even officially get 'em. I'd love a C6-01 to compliment the N900, nice little Symbian device. Damn fixed-focus camera.

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I really want to see Nokia make hardware that's better than Apple's.
Software that is slicker than Apple's.
Functionality that's as powerful as Android's.

But I don't want Nokia to show case it to the world.
I want it to come out like the iPad, everyone has no info about it then it hits stores fast.

This way, anything new and exciting, will be exclusive to MeeGo for the time being, giving it one or more advantages over Android ... and hopefully the better choice of open OS for OEM's, KIRF's, and homebrew developers.

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The iPad was successful because people will blindly purchase Apple products because Apple made them. MeeGo wouldn't be so lucky.

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Looks like C6-01 should be available on amazon.com soon - http://www.amazon.com/Nokia-Unlocked...3946386&sr=8-4

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Hey, there was that Coca-Cola commercial that had the Nokia ringtone in it. That counts, right? :)

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Normally, I'd agree. However, the biggest problem isn't that people are truly blind to whatever Apple puts out - that's a huge thing to overlook, but let's look over that for a moment - it's mainly because of the work put into roping in so much media under their iTunes Music Store and iPhoto apps. Grandma's can now share photos, get new music and/or videos and all they have to do is use iTunes Music Store and/or a Mac.

Apple knows how to sell a service. Too bad that the interoperability and ease of use is overlooked by a lot of other companies - DoubleTwist adds that for the Android platform and it works damn well.

Not everybody is into command line methods to get their stuff onto their machine. That and drag and drop are usually seen as "work" and not as a "it just works" solution. And the Reality Distortion Field™ is enough to make folks think that's the best, if not easiest solution out there.

I disagree. But at the same time, I can see merit in wanting to be... well, plug and play... sync and dash... easy as hell to do, walk out of the door with a George Jetson one-button push to do it all.

Apple has put in the work to sell those services and have your desktop talk nicely to your device. Too bad that Nokia cannot say the same thing. As a gadget hound, we'll find a way to get our stuff on the machine. But the non-savvy folks are the ones that give Apple credit.

If you commute, look at who uses what during your commute. If you're in Europe - nevermind. I'm sure it's a Nokia product. But is it a Nokia MeeGo tablet?

Perhaps not. Until that happens, people will look at the Apple iPad as a possible - and pretty much a horrible - tablet choice. And by "happens" I mean that Nokia needs to get the desktop, the app store (or whatever the pending MS vs. Apple trademark battle makes me regard that) the music, the video, and flashing (seriously, support the damn 64-bit systems) together on day one and things should be on the up and up.

iTunes as a software sucks. As a service, it collects a lot of stuff for folks in one simple suite of apps. Outside of the Zune software (which I like better), Nokia has nothing to compete with that. And they should.

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Now hearing a small chance that a limited demo of Nokia Meego/N9 at MWC but still much more likely to be a no than any form of yes (with respect to the poll question and as far as Nokia goes).

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http://members.cox.net/n75/MWC-2011.png

At the price of booth space at an event like this I susperct there will be something MeeGo related available. Can't see having a booth that is there simply to hand out foam cutouts of the MeeGo figures. Mobile related content? Who knows! Maybe someone from the MeeGo Community can ring in and answer yes/no.

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Nokia got rather big space in MWC and as far as i go my expectations for any MeeGo related Q1 announcement have been nothing else than around Nokia's Harmattan-MeeGo.

That said i'm not sure at all that we will be seeing any MeeGo or MeeGo/Harmattan announcement from Nokia in MWC, hopefully we do.

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Yes me too unfortunately. Or if the N9 comes with a processor slower than actual high end phones. Android now have dualcore phones.

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Everyone "left" when it was not announced in 2010 too! :)

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That first link is the only one I can reasonably believe is true. A8 chips are mid-range chips now, and if Nokia wants to play in the high end, they have to play Motorola/HTC/Samsung's game because they certainly can't play Apple's.

I suspect that, if true, then behind the scenes an A8 device was born and died, and along with it MeeGo-Harmattan did as well. If they were planning to use a Debian-style filesystem with Debian packaging, then they would be out of compliance with the spec and not permitted to use the MeeGo brand, and that would dilute it more than anything.

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Hmph. IMO putting chips that are relatively cheap to manufacture, low power usage and last in mid-high range on speed is probably best business decision. With most powerful cpu & gpu you end up wasting investors money in average joe market. Better OS, services and integration between all meego devices is the key to success. People have lost it with this dual-extravaganza craziness. I´m not saying that I would not like to have most powerful cpu&gpu (btw. any benchmark tables on different cpu&gpu?) but fact is that every app and game is produced to low-mid range market on cpu&gpu side so it would be not good business to shoot over. On the other hand HDMI, good camera, good battery life are something that are must have and IMO highly appreciated.

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Still I´m glad if it has leanest and meanest cpu&gpu but IMO it´s just not that important when you look whole package.

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Do not mix E-series and N-series. N-series --> no business environment support out of box. IMO it sucks but that what Nokia has done and seems to keep on doing and they are also quite clear about this if you are able to read their home-page.

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MeeGo + MWC = EPIC Event!!! Google and Apple should be afraid.

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I seriously doubt that.

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If thats not EPIC I don't know what is...

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Gotta wonder what RM696 will eventually be,
hard to imagine it to just be a sibling of the n9

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Finally it seems :)

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count down thread in 3..

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Supposedly RM-696 is "lankku" the non qwerty brother of N9. RM-680=Dali=N9.
Or that's the rumour from couple of sources. :)

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Is Meego 1.2 the consumer "usuable" version?

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I'm starting to doubt Nokia will show anything in MWC or at least have have units for people to test. I doubted if we will N9 in MWC, but now i'm starting to doubt will we even see Symbian devices.
Nokia got it's "stands" in hall 4 and hall 4 is actually for meeting rooms. Exhibiton areas are hall 1,2,7 and 8.
Nokia's space is just 3 tiny rooms over at hall 4. http://mwcfloorplans.eventex.co.uk/hall-4

And i don't see Nokia announcing anything in Elops keynote as it's in the last day and they have already been given a topic to talk and they share it with 3 other keynote speakers.
Honestly even Capital Markets Day next month seem more promising place for Nokia to make any kind of announcements imo. :D