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http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/05/g...#disqus_thread

Liking what i see so far.

Not to sound like MeeGo hater, but 3.0 actually seems to be really offering the kind of UI that i was hoping from MeeGo side on tablets and the huge user base is already there.
Though it's still early days and that video did not show more than general feel of the UI.
Only thing that i can say straight away that i'm not huge fan of that bottom bar that looks kind of cheap compared to rest of the UI.

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I have the impression that some part of the Android screen in the video still have that subtle "lag" that Android has compared to other HW-accelerated UI's.

Aside that minor detail, Android 3.0 running on the Asus Slider would make a buyer.

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Finally... a tablet OS that doesn't just look like a giant phone

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Exactly.
Very happy that Google/Android went for this route.
Sick of the "first gen" tablets with mobile phone hw and UI.

Hopefully the general public thinks the same too so we see much more of Android 3.0 and MeeGo tablet UX devices with great hw.

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i think this is awesome!!

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Agree.

Looks promising and unlike a phone which should help separate tablets and smartphones in consumers eyes.

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Yup... but I don't want to "Experience the whole internet" on a tablet.

For me the beauty of a mobile browser has been the lack of ads, frames, pop-ups, and any other manner of annoyance that distracts from the information that is requested.

Now that we have the bandwidth and CPU/GPU horsepower in mobile devices I had been hoping to be seduced by a "new" tablets larger screen and more fluid touch interface.

Being able to move information retrieval from the desktop to the couch was one thing the "old" 770/N800/810 tablets allowed us to do. The clunky interface, still developing browser, and smaller screen were the trade offs.

If the trade off for a "new" tablet is that along with the information I request, the "whole internet" with all the crap it now dispenses is dragged off the desktop and on to my couch... I think I'll pass.

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Is it me or does it look kind of similar to some of the MeeGo demo videos??? O.o

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Can't help but be impressed. Seems polished, well thought out... and nicely done.

Progress indeed.

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Wait... the N810 did offer the entire internet. Just that you could install methods to block ads, like Privoxy.

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And just how fast was Google getting to Honeycomb from 2.2 to Gingerbread ... and the MeeGo wheels keep rolling and keep rolling ...

I was pretty interested in the first initial Meego Tablet experience but I guess Nokia / Intel dumped that. Now Honeycomb can fill that space.


But on the subject of Tablet OS's I did like the Eden panel views that Notion Ink designed on top of Android (reminded me of the panel views of Meego Tablet).

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It offered it, but not well enough IMHO, hence the need for wiki pages like this. I got sick of my N810 taking more than a half minute to load web sites like CNet, Ars Technica, weather.com, and many others designed for the desktop. I got tired of sites like Google Maps or Google Docs or Google-just-about-anything being too slow b/c of all the JavaScript. Sites like FaceBook and Hulu started requiring a later Flash version. Many Flash games were too slow unless you switched them to "Low Quality". So I feel like I can kind of access the full Internet, but it's leaving me in its rear view mirror.

I would ideally want to get that back with a tablet, not because I miss the ads of non-mobile web sites, but because I want to go to a site like Hulu or Medici and have it just work without having to have someone build an app for the stupid thing. I mean, correct me if I'm wrong, but you can't get Hulu for iOS, right? It's just Hulu Plus ($$), right? This kind of thing just seems ridiculous to me.

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is this the 4G generation on Android?

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That depends, right? When did we start attributing generations to software versions and what, precisely, do you consider a generation in a software version?

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i just got home from CES.

motorola had a honeycomb tablet. it was nice and honeycomb is definately a step up for android. it was dificult to get to it as they only had one tablet and too many people around it.

but my favorite new product was the rim tablet on webkit. it was solid and had true multi-tasking with flash and html5. i am not a lkiker of blackberries, just dont like the interfaces, but the tablet is nice. being released in wifi first and then with sprint on wimax.

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not reading enough and carefully.

reading........so this is a tablet friendly version.......is the Galaxy Tab got problems with Froyo???

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Isn't Maemo 5 the 4th step out of 5?

I stopped putting importance on generation(s) mainly because of how it's potentially perceived. 1.6, 2.0, 2.1, 2.2, 2.3 could be seen as incremental steps or seen as generations. I just see them as incremental steps of the OS and have to differentiate between the hardware as the generations now.

Edit: Oops, didn't see danramos post above... basically said the same thing as him.

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Yes. Honeycomb is a tablet friendly version - moreso than the current Froyo iteration(s) that give the impression of being a larger version of the phone software.

To me, that's not exactly ideal, but it's not too much of a prob. I've played with the Galaxy Tab and like it. But using the current version(s) of the tablets - iPad and Galaxy Tab - it feels like phone iterations of those software. The RIM Playbook and Honeycomb seem to really take advantage of the tablet form in a new, more efficient way.

That... I like even more. But no probs really with Froyo. Just that it feels unoptimized for the format.

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I thought RIM tablets were being sold as mere extensions of a BlackBerry. If true, that would be reminiscent of Palm which almost had a slam dunk with their Foleo that was a "netbook before we knew that netbooks existed". But it was an epic fail b/c you couldn't get onto the Internet except via a Palm smartphone. I thought that RIM was in the process of making the same terrible mistake. Was I incorrect?

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I'm not familiar with Foleo. The RIM Playbook doesn't haven't 3G is all. Last I heard, you will be able to WiFi and bt tether to most phones.

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the first version they are going to release is the wifi version. everything seemed to work fine. but obviously, i dont know how they would pin or do any pim functioning with regards to the BES-type of stuff.

there is another article with a good review from the ces show where he states that you have to bridge it from a curent bb device with service.

to me, this means you are expecting the BB service on the tablet as in the device and such the same with the BES services with remote wipe, pim, pin, etc.

i like the tablet like it is and do not care about the bes stuff nor do i need it or wish to pay extra for this service. so his article talks as a negative because it has to link with another service you already have on bb.

the second version is supposed to be a wifi/wimax version and going to be with sprint. sprint is a big supporter of bb devices so that is no supprise. and to relate to the article here, as there are NO HANDSETS WITH VOICE on wimax as of yet, only data cards and other data products, who knows how they expect to have a billing setup or service setup with these new devices on the new networks like wimax and lte.

as for the email, i saw it as liken to the nokia phones, where you would be able to by pass the nokia messaging client and use the standard email client.

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NIT Comb............

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NIT whit? :)

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I guess I have a hard time understanding the complaint that you won't get BES data without being tethered to a BB. The tablet doesn't have 3G so you are going to use it simultaneously with a cellphone in order to get phone calls. If you have BES service, then you have a BB. I think BB Connect is gone now, no?

And I have a hard time understanding the complaint that the tablet does no more than duplicate the BES data when its tethered. Well, if you are using the tablet for browsing, etc., then you are not going to pull out the BB when you get an email.

If RIM won't permit 3rd party messaging clients on the Playbook, then I agree shame on them. But we don't know that yet.

Yes, you are paying for some BES/bb functionality with the playbook and a premium for some other things too.

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The foleo could do web on its own. What was never adequately answered was that of email. Sometimes it sounded as if it could do email on its own, other times that it needed to sync with the palm phone for that. This on top of trying to get it to not only talk nicely to palmos devices, but winmob device (i suspect microsoft where stalling as much as they could get away with there).

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I suspect Nokia have dropped that vision of maemo/meego.

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There are reports that the Playbook can be configured to cache BES data for variable period.

More explanation of Playbook's BB dependency here.

http://blogs.forbes.com/elizabethwoy...-a-blackberry/

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so Im assuming for easter e-yes is gonna port this to n900 as well :D

looks awesome, though. sure we dont have hovercars even if they are eleven years overdue, but this is at least something!

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This is specific to the Motorola Xoom, but it seems like a TERRIBLE decision if it's true:

http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/06/v...-one-month-of/

"To activate WiFi functionality on this device, a minimum of one month data subscription is required."

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You got that right. Requiring monthly payment to utilize an independent feature is criminal. It's like having to pay monthly just to be able to get volume from your speakers.

100% pass.

It may be the first Honeycomb tablet, but the price point ($800 :eek:) and carrier-ridiculousness, is sure to turn many off -- myself included.

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lol, looks like us Streakers will be among the first to have Honeycomb
http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/08/d...like-a-real-t/

http://www.streaksmart.com/2011/02/d...ll-streak.html

Courtesy of DJSteve, the legend.

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That's AWESOME!

Save some fun for the rest of us, eh? ;)

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You will be the first to know:D

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What's very interesting, is that it seems Honeycomb displays perfectly on the 800x480 screen. I can't wait to see it in action!

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Correct as far as I know (about the IOS). But you could try jailbreaking and installing Frash. Skyfire might work too.

Anyway, tablet wise I think I'm just going go with an iPad2 and see if there are any (HTC) tablets on Android worth switching to after the first generation passes through.

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The iPad2 is sure to be a good bet and a solid product. I'm looking forward to Apple's announcement in the coming month(s).

I don't know where HTC is, but they're awfully quiet on the Tablet front. I've not been a terribly huge fan of all of their hardware, but some of it is quite nice.

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the nook color has 3.0 booting, and its only 200 bucks. Im going to pick up one, my reason being no tegra 2 tablet has been affordable.

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Honeycomb on the nook looks really solid. The GPU acceleration seems ot improve rendering in some cases, though others are not as smooth as I would like:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CDFcKd-CPGI

Still, very solid! Looks great on a 7" screen!

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The browser looked like it struggled a bit with a typical forum page. So I'm guessing it wouldn't be ideal for heavy web browsing.