Honeycomb vs Meego
 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3YiXlkiq8Y0

I just watched this preview of Honeycomb and it's pretty impressive stuff.... Google have put in the resources dedicated to turning out the releases *fast*. What chance does MeeGo have given this competition.

It seems to address many of the usability concerns I have with Froyo, and perhaps it's time to give up on Nokia. By the time MeeGo hits, and eventually filters into tablets, Honeycomb will be 3 releases further on and racing ahead...

I'm just putting this out there, as I'm just hoping it won't be the case...

when I lost my N900 in a taxi I went out and bought myself an HTC Aria (toy) then installed Froyo, had a play... then decided I wanted quality, and bought an N8 (phone). Been pretty happy, only disappointment is S^3, however been eagerly awaiting MeeGo ever since...

Maybe I'll jump to Honeycomb tablet, and Gingerbread phone for for 2011 until Meego launches..... someday... :(

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isn't the problem with android that you still can't really use it seriously without a google account? last time i checked was half a year ago, but if things haven't changed, using a "google-less" android is an academical exercise, not a practical option. - as this is still the case with honeycomb, it's out of the question to even consider it as a platform.

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meego is doomed,taking too long,will a couple of years to establish, before that time it will get shelved because people would rather go for a proven system! my opinion. honeycombe looks sweet as hell!

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I think Nokia already planning for a new OS(after Meego). Not yet revealed. My guess is that the announcement occur a month after the release date of N9.

I can't back this up with any source at the moment. But you can't prove this to be wrong either so here we are again. Face to face :)

Android is not a serious option for a mini computer. It's to to childish.

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The video is impressive.

My vision is that maemo has provided multitask and incredible web surfing while others didn't, and actually still doesn't do. The impression is that apple is not really focused on this, they are much more interested in the Apps than in any other things.

But google, assuming all we see in the video confirms, takes the multitask and the browser good points of meego, improves significantly, and that's it. Why should we wait for meego? What meego will bring that make we come back to nokia?

This is my opinion. At the time meego arrives, multitask and surfing experience will be very well covered by google, and I don't expect nokia creating something "new" and "magic".

So, at the end, the only point that nokia will have will be linux/liberty. The possibility to run a full linux, to run all apps already existent in linux, and to be able to do literally what you want with your device.

Even though, I am not sure that this will be enough. The video is really impressive.

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This is pretty close to Nokia's MO, but you made one mistake: the announcement will come a month or so *before* the N9 is released. They wouldn't dare release Meego without preemptively deprecating it. I wouldn't be surprised if the release announcement for the N9 included the phrase "please test all your applications on a Symbian device; Meego will be EOL in June."

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Indeed... they tick the multitasking, UI polish, apps, browser.

But more importantly they have some serious resources & momentum behind it... like every market in the world... the first to market has a serious advantage.

My fear is that by the time Meego comes out, there is so much catch up to do, it will be hard to attract developers across, because there is no established userbase and likewise users won't move as they will be missing certain established apps they have on iOS / Android. The longer Nokia delays, the more stuck in the Catch 22 they will become.

eg. I've been trying to ween my g/f off iOS, but she says, where the equivalent of app X, Y Z... I said sorry none on Symbian... none on Maemo, none on Meego... so she's sticking with iOS.

That's more the problem. Humans can become ingrained in a mindset & mindshare and that is hard to change the longer it persists.

I, just like many of you are probably a lot more nimble in terms of technology, OS, application... but for many this is not the case. If the majority rule, then that's where the market goes....

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No really sure of that - where you go that message.

If you mean seriously in the sense of getting an level of integration between Contacts, Calendar and Email vis the google account then yes.

But you can still use Contacts, Calendar and email in a standalone fashion without a Google account. Also lack of a google account still doesnt prevent you from using the rest of Android platform effectively - at least as far as my usage has shown.

Of course if you want to install apps from Google Marketplace you do need a google account - but that has got nothing to do with Android. You can access other marketplaces which dont need a google account irrespective.

Quite frankly I dont get where you go that blanket statement from.

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This thread again seriously?? Come on guys, let's compare the 3rd version of a stable OS to another that hasn't even been released yet. FAIL.

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well if you will provide me with a meego device along with the honeycomb device i can give you a very good honeycomb Vs Meego preview.

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Have you seen my thread;)
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=68185

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@cfh11

Ok the title perhaps is mis-named... the point was that if you are waiting for Meego and whatever it may deliver, the fact is that Honeycomb is moving as a fast pace and comparing the two, Honeycomb may indeed tick most the boxes that people want.

The direction of the debate I'd like to hear is more whether people feel like the window of opportunity is fast closing if Meego does not come out soon, because of the *momentum* of Android.

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@JorgeFX no sorry thread must have slipped off my radar! Will hop over to your thread and have a read! Cheers

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Ha ..... I think android win.

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evolve III MeeGo slate.
http://evolvethree.com.au/meego-slate.html

BtW it comes with Dual Boot of Android/MeeGo/Win7in proto
UI demo video below
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzGgO...layer_embedded

Quick chatter from a demo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=15JknvAYtMY

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Enh. Android still doesn't do what I want it to do - i.e. stop pretending to be something other than a Google twist on the J2ME concept.

I mean, I have a Google account and I like it and wouldn't mind getting more mileage out of it, but I love my n900 to want to go for anything less flexible.

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Wow! Honeycomb looks awesome! It looks just like Maemo/Meego!


Er, right. NOTHING impressed me there and that's not just because I've got an N900 running Maemo.... well okay actually it is, because I've already got a user interface which looks just like that to be honest?

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The biggest reason Android grew so fast (compared to Nokia/Symbian and iPhone) is:
-CDMA
(no iOS or Symbian on CDMA).

The previous CDMA handsets (except for Blackberry) were about the same as what GSM ditched 5 years ago.

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Google will take over the world

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Honeycomb.. looks nice.
I think the stole some features from maemo like the contacts on the homescreen with IM and online status. Also the plus symbol to organize the widgets on the homescreen.. (maemo is greeting)

interesting..

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So is Honeycomb really a lot more like Maemo now? All I have to compare is an N800 running Diablo to an Android phone running 2.1...but based on that comparison Maemo seemed to have the more polished UI. I used an Android 2.1 phone as my main phone for about a week and there were a thousand little things that it seemed to be missing that were thought out much better on Maemo. I can't remember everything, but the inability to choose whether you wanted to close an app vs. minimize drover me crazy...and the ability to quickly switch between apps was also a problem when I was trying to work with several things at once.

In Androids favor was the fact that the hardware was three years newer than the Nokia, and that there are some pretty slick apps available. But trying to work on it was really more an exercise in frustration than a productive experience. I'm hoping it has gotten better, because I need to get a phone this year and a VZ Meego device is pretty much a pipe dream at this point.

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I have streak now and like what honeycomb will be bringing to the table. Although i still perfer N900 UI, honeycomb looks to be a close enough copy. I am also happy that Playstation Suite is coming to andriod markets, now if meego os also get the Playstation suite...

still waiting for a better browsing then the n900.. i miss that on my streak.. and the multi tasking.. is not really multi tasking after coming from n900. but it does look promising

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Since I bought and rooted an Android Nook Color, I've grown to appreciate Maemo a lot more. Android just plain sucks. It's far too limiting, childish and clunky. I've actually been using my N800 even more after buying it. My kids are using the Nook more than me now, mostly to play games on.

If it's a step above Maemo then MeeGo will blow Android away.

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Android sells

Maemo does not sell

If Meego is just a step about Maemo, Nokia is doomed.

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Maemo was not meant to sell. It was developed by a small team, wasn't hyped and had no TV ads or expensive marketing campaigns. It was step 4 of 5. MeeGo is step 5. MeeGo will sell.

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meego the last hero

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Honeycomb like Maemo?

Open a Honeycomb terminal window, and type

"python --version"

If you get a "huh, what's that", well :)

When I demo my "phone" to someone (with brains), I always open the terminal, type

python --version
perl --version
gcc --version

...then I edit a "hellow world" C program, compile and run it on the phone.

Can Android do that?

/Z

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That is one boring ***** demo to the regular phone user and to say they don't have brains is insulting. I've grown out of this phase of needing to edit all aspects of my phone. Maybe because I don't have all the ability myself but have to rely upon others, or maybe because there just isnt enough time in the day.

The only thing that will keep me with Maemo/ Meego is the Davlik virtualisation of android apps.

We need phones to do what we need in the real world. If you need the programming then I guess this is the platform for you. If you need accessibility then something more mainstream is there.

For example, I could use the following things which I can't seem to find out Maemo. Correct me if I'm wrong, Google maps with streetview and Access to trading platform applications

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Honeycomb vs. MeeGo

Interesting question.
The main difference is that Honeycomb exists and MeeGo - don`t.
Also Android is far ahead in development, apps, strategy, so why bother about MeeGo?

In the end of 2010 I bought HTC Desire HD and I am 95% satisfy from it, from customer service HTC has ( yes, one of the main points for me is customer service!!!) and quality of the phone and OS. And constant development.

I still nave N900 and I love it. But it is already in the past...
No more waiting for next update and for features, which other mobiles has from ages...

Nokia already lost a lot of faithful customers, as I was.
So I do not think in the next 2-3 years to look back for Nokia smartphone, tablet or else. Already lost faith in Nokia.

Regards. ;)