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H3llb0und 2011-01-10 00:21

Lost my N900...
 
As the title says, I lost my N900 on a Sydney bus 1 day before going for a 12 day drive along the coast south of Sydney... I returned this weekend.

What to do?..... I am not going to buy another N900, it is too outdated and the OS is a dead end now.

I guess I'll decide by the end of this week what device I am going to buy next.

Leaning heavily towards Android.

mthmob 2011-01-10 00:24

Re: Lost my N900...
 
you could hold out and see what the N9 will bring.. :)

maxximuscool 2011-01-10 00:31

Re: Lost my N900...
 
Buy a cheapy Android phone for now and then saving for something in the 3rd quarter 2011. Wait to see what the N9 would bring and if is 5hit then just move your wagon and attach with the high end dual core droids :) Yes you've heard me, DUAL CORE droid (though the OS is not yet utilizing the multicores processor but soon in Android 2.4 may be)
I'm prepare to jump the cliff for that if Nokia release the N9 and it doesn't match my specification in modern Mobile device hardware. Seriously buying a Nokia is always 1 year behind in hardware spec :)

H3llb0und 2011-01-10 00:45

Re: Lost my N900...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mthmob (Post 916435)
you could hold out and see what the N9 will bring.. :)

My faith in Nokia as died a loooong time ago.
Unless the N9 and it's specs are announced and confirmed before the end of this week, Nokia has just lost another customer to Android.

H3llb0und 2011-01-10 00:49

Re: Lost my N900...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by maxximuscool (Post 916438)
Buy a cheapy Android phone for now and then saving for something in the 3rd quarter 2011. Wait to see what the N9 would bring and if is 5hit then just move your wagon and attach with the high end dual core droids :) Yes you've heard me, DUAL CORE droid (though the OS is not yet utilizing the multicores processor but soon in Android 2.4 may be)
I'm prepare to jump the cliff for that if Nokia release the N9 and it doesn't match my specification in modern Mobile device hardware.

Yes, I am aware of what is available now and what is coming on the Android camp.
Just watched a few videos of Honeycomb... Nokia, step up your game or surrender to Android.

Quote:

Originally Posted by maxximuscool (Post 916438)
Seriously buying a Nokia is always 1 year behind in hardware spec :)

Actually, in my experience Nokia is usually up there in hardware specs, but the software... and the firmware updates... and no Flash updates...

FRuMMaGe 2011-01-10 01:03

Re: Lost my N900...
 
I am more than happy with Maemo and the N900. Yes Nokia have all but abandoned it, but the community is incredible.

In the last few months alone we have recieved working and easy to use usb host mode, monitor mode and my favourite update to date... PACKET INJECTION!

Seeing the look on my brothers face when I was able to crack his wifi connection in 7 minutes was priceless :)

H3llb0und 2011-01-10 01:37

Re: Lost my N900...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by FRuMMaGe (Post 916445)
I am more than happy with Maemo and the N900. Yes Nokia have all but abandoned it, but the community is incredible.

In the last few months alone we have recieved working and easy to use usb host mode, monitor mode and my favourite update to date... PACKET INJECTION!

Seeing the look on my brothers face when I was able to crack his wifi connection in 7 minutes was priceless :)

Believe me, if not for the maemo.org community I would have jumped ship at least 6 months ago.

Yes it's fun to show off things that no other currrent device has like the FM transmitter, but that doesn't make up for the fact that the OS is missing or is lacking in areas that shouldn't be that hard for the Engineers at Nokia to fix or provide us with, out of the box or with minor updates.

Was MMS really that hard to implement?
FMMS always worked for me and I only used it maybe 5 times, but MMS, use it a lot or not at all is a basic mobile phone function.
The $50 Nokia my GF uses has it.

FRuMMaGe 2011-01-10 01:58

Re: Lost my N900...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by H3llb0und (Post 916469)
Believe me, if not for the maemo.org community I would have jumped ship at least 6 months ago.

Yes it's fun to show off things that no other currrent device has like the FM transmitter, but that doesn't make up for the fact that the OS is missing or is lacking in areas that shouldn't be that hard for the Engineers at Nokia to fix or provide us with, out of the box or with minor updates.

Was MMS really that hard to implement?
FMMS always worked for me and I only used it maybe 5 times, but MMS, use it a lot or not at all is a basic mobile phone function.
The $50 Nokia my GF uses has it.

FM transmitters are becoming fairly common within high-end smart phones now. Spec-wise, the N900 is gradually losing it's edge but I agree that the community is keeping it alive.

I have the latest NitDroid version installed on my internal emmc with multiboot and I spend a lot of time playing around with all the nice android apps. When installed to the internal memory, it's actually faster than plenty of android devices

ed00 2011-01-10 02:54

Re: Lost my N900...
 
yes its sux when you loose something. Been there lost few phones back in the days. But i would hold to buying new phone right now. Probably summer will bring something.
Personally I will not going to buy any phone in the near future until there going to be something significant like 1.5 Ghz and such an issues like flash player for example wouldn't be an issue at all and so on...

H3llb0und 2011-01-10 03:53

Re: Lost my N900...
 
About the flash player thing, I have this to say:

I am not even considering buying a device that does not run the latest Flash Player and Adobe AIR apps.

I will miss the N900 keyboard and resistive screen and the openness of the OS.

But I don't care what OS or hardware the device has, no Flash no sale, no AIR no sale. Thank you.

mthmob 2011-01-10 04:02

Re: Lost my N900...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by maxximuscool (Post 916438)
Seriously buying a Nokia is always 1 year behind in hardware spec :)

Well.. you can say many many things about nokia.. but that is not true.. Nokia have allways been up-to-date when it comes to mobile hardware :) atleast when they came with n95 and n900... the two best phones of their generation!

cenwesi 2011-01-10 12:40

Re: Lost my N900...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by H3llb0und (Post 916433)
As the title says, I lost my N900 on a Sydney bus 1 day before going for a 12 day drive along the coast south of Sydney... I returned this weekend.

What to do?..... I am not going to buy another N900, it is too outdated and the OS is a dead end now.

I guess I'll decide by the end of this week what device I am going to buy next.

Leaning heavily towards Android.

Get the Nexus S. If you get any other android phone, you will face the issues with updates from the manufacturers/carriers because they didn't keep it pure(google). I am learning more and more to Nexus S and i am aware about the missing micro SD but seriously. I have all that GB's on my N900 including a 16gig and i don't even store anything on the internal space i have right now. Even the 16gb i barely use over 8gb. The 4G thing, well i will not even touch that seriously I get 3.5G on my N900, that is more than enough for me. I can go on and on... but i will most likely get the Nexus S due simply because Google will NOT screw us over like Nokia and these other carriers/manufacturers have. They rather you go out and but a new phone with the latest OS and WILL not update their damn phones when it meets the damn specs... Let me list a couple here... Samsung S, X10.... I said this last year and i will continue to say is. Meego REALLY has no chance right now. If only they released something last October then they would have had a change. Anyway, let me shut up.

H3llb0und 2011-01-12 02:14

Re: Lost my N900...
 
I'd like to know who added the tag "android blows" to this thread.

If you meant that android blows Maemo and even Meego out of the water, then I agree.

gerbick 2011-01-12 02:21

Re: Lost my N900...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by H3llb0und (Post 918339)
I'd like to know who added the tag "android blows" to this thread.

If you meant that android blows Maemo and even Meego out of the water, then I agree.

That person will never come forward - but the mods know who it is.

With that said, I don't take up one side over the other - just use what you like. And this comes from a N900 owner (secondary), a Samsung Captivate (Galaxy S variant - primary), an Apple iPad and former Apple iPhone 3GS owner with Linux, OS X and Windows machines in my house.

I'm all over the map, but can honestly way that Android has gone from unfinished to feature-laden quicker than most other platforms out there.

What phone have you decided to get, btw? I'm being nosy...

Wikiwide 2011-01-12 02:37

Re: Lost my N900...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by H3llb0und (Post 916433)
As the title says, I lost my N900 on a Sydney bus 1 day before going for a 12 day drive along the coast south of Sydney... I returned this weekend.

What to do?.....

Contact lost&found.

Do you have IMEI of N900 written down anywhere? Like, original Nokia's box, if you haven't bothered to write down it before.

I find it highly disturbing when a lost device is considered lost forever. It isn't.

H3llb0und 2011-01-12 03:56

Re: Lost my N900...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gerbick (Post 918341)
That person will never come forward - but the mods know who it is.

That's ok.
I'm still here only because I still care about Maemo and Meego, I just don't have the patience right now to wait for Nokia to take their heads out of their collective asses.

Quote:

Originally Posted by gerbick (Post 918341)
With that said, I don't take up one side over the other - just use what you like. And this comes from a N900 owner (secondary), a Samsung Captivate (Galaxy S variant - primary), an Apple iPad and former Apple iPhone 3GS owner with Linux, OS X and Windows machines in my house.

I'm all over the map, but can honestly way that Android has gone from unfinished to feature-laden quicker than most other platforms out there.

What phone have you decided to get, btw? I'm being nosy...

Still browsing, but I should have a decision by the end of this week.
It's the only big problem I have with Android right now... WAAAAY too much choice :D

H3llb0und 2011-01-12 04:02

Re: Lost my N900...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Wikiwide (Post 918346)
Contact lost&found.

Do you have IMEI of N900 written down anywhere? Like, original Nokia's box, if you haven't bothered to write down it before.

I find it highly disturbing when a lost device is considered lost forever. It isn't.

Easier said than done. But I've done it.

I have everything that came with the phone, box is like new. (If anyone in Australia wants some extras, contact me)

Contacted the lost property department of RailCorp, and provided them the IMEI of my lost N900.

Biggest problem: That day there was track work going on, so it was some random bus company running the buses for that section.
Contacted all possible bus companies... nothing.

Railcorp told me that bus companies are supposed to send them all lost property, but most don't.

I assume that some random person got it. But I bet that whoever it is they can't even turn it on.

If there is a way to easily block or locate the phone using the IMEI, I'd like to know.

Wikiwide 2011-01-12 05:56

Re: Lost my N900...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by H3llb0und (Post 918381)
Easier said than done. But I've done it.

I have everything that came with the phone, box is like new. (If anyone in Australia wants some extras, contact me)

Contacted the lost property department of RailCorp, and provided them the IMEI of my lost N900.

Biggest problem: That day there was track work going on, so it was some random bus company running the buses for that section.
Contacted all possible bus companies... nothing.

Railcorp told me that bus companies are supposed to send them all lost property, but most don't.

I assume that some random person got it. But I bet that whoever it is they can't even turn it on.

If there is a way to easily block or locate the phone using the IMEI, I'd like to know.

Contact your SIM operator (3? Vodafone? Telstra?) and ask them to block the IMEI of the device and the IMSI of the SIM card. They could probably contact other network operators and ask them to block the IMEI, I don't know.

Where are you in Australia? New South Wales? Sydney?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RailCorp

If you have some way to send commands to N900, you could try to get GPS coordinates or photographs. But I don' think you have. I don't have such a way myself...

Maybe, police has some lost-and-found or a way to locate phone using IMEI.

cenwesi 2011-01-12 13:34

Re: Lost my N900...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by H3llb0und (Post 918378)
That's ok.
I'm still here only because I still care about Maemo and Meego, I just don't have the patience right now to wait for Nokia to take their heads out of their collective asses.



Still browsing, but I should have a decision by the end of this week.
It's the only big problem I have with Android right now... WAAAAY too much choice :D

Very easy, Nexus S

H3llb0und 2011-01-13 00:35

Re: Lost my N900...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cenwesi (Post 918629)
Very easy, Nexus S

Looks very nice and all, but no microSD slot = no sale!

I think I'm going for a used HTC Desire HD.

And my lost N900 was just blocked by IMEI :D

FRuMMaGe 2011-01-15 01:30

Re: Lost my N900...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Wikiwide (Post 918346)
Contact lost&found.

Do you have IMEI of N900 written down anywhere? Like, original Nokia's box, if you haven't bothered to write down it before.

I find it highly disturbing when a lost device is considered lost forever. It isn't.

Well not everyone would just hand in a £500 phone to lost property. Particularly if they were short on cash or there was no-one around to judge them.

Can anyone here honestly say they wouldn't be the SLIGHTEST bit tempted to keep it if they found one?

Wikiwide 2011-01-15 01:50

Re: Lost my N900...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by FRuMMaGe (Post 920616)
Well not everyone would just hand in a £500 phone to lost property. Particularly if they were short on cash or there was no-one around to judge them.

Can anyone here honestly say they wouldn't be the SLIGHTEST bit tempted to keep it if they found one?

I already have one N900 so getting a second one isn't all that tempting. If you had nine N900 would you be tempted to keep a tenth N900 you found? Clearly no. And similarly, keeping a found N900 as a second device when you already legally have the first N900 isn't all that tempting.

If I found one, I would contact the network provider of the SIM card in it and tell them the IMEI so that they would find the owner. And yes, I might play with the found N900 while the network provider sleeps and looks for the owner - like, turn on FM transmitter on one and FM receiver on the other.

But I wouldn't cross the line. It's too risky.

It's always better to make friends with the owner of the lost-and-found device, than to keep it to yourself and be afraid of every shadow.

You don't know what the penalty can be for keeping somebody's device instead of returning it.

And once you tell a lie, you have to keep telling larger and larger lies to keep cover. It's not a pleasant prospect.

For me money isn't an issue. I didn't buy my N900 - I got it (unlocked) as gift. And I will not sell my N900. At least I think so.

EDIT: Sorry if I sound harsh. For me it's not a topic to laugh about.

FRuMMaGe 2011-01-15 12:06

Re: Lost my N900...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Wikiwide (Post 920620)
I already have one N900 so getting a second one isn't all that tempting. If you had nine N900 would you be tempted to keep a tenth N900 you found? Clearly no. And similarly, keeping a found N900 as a second device when you already legally have the first N900 isn't all that tempting.

If I found one, I would contact the network provider of the SIM card in it and tell them the IMEI so that they would find the owner. And yes, I might play with the found N900 while the network provider sleeps and looks for the owner - like, turn on FM transmitter on one and FM receiver on the other.

But I wouldn't cross the line. It's too risky.

It's always better to make friends with the owner of the lost-and-found device, than to keep it to yourself and be afraid of every shadow.

You don't know what the penalty can be for keeping somebody's device instead of returning it.

And once you tell a lie, you have to keep telling larger and larger lies to keep cover. It's not a pleasant prospect.

For me money isn't an issue. I didn't buy my N900 - I got it (unlocked) as gift. And I will not sell my N900. At least I think so.

EDIT: Sorry if I sound harsh. For me it's not a topic to laugh about.

I meant hypothetically, putting yourself in the shoes of someone in need of money, or just not a very moral person.

I think we can safely assume that they were probably not in possession of an N900 already :p


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