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a98pmalcolm# 2011-01-24 22:35

Important phone app needed
 
Hay all. I dont know about anyone else but one downside to the N900 is the way you answer calls.

U get a call, get the phone out of you pocket, sometimes doesnt light up, have to the unlock it manually, then its landsacpe mode, then u check hows calling you. And by then the person calling you has given up.

Is there an app were no matter the phone is it will light up whos calling and you can answer the call by sliding a bar and it will always stay in portrait mode like the i-phone or android?

Thanks
Paul

Ykho 2011-01-24 22:39

Re: Important phone app needed
 
phone app>turning control>Display Orientation-Vertical

no idea about the other problems though

Weedalot 2011-01-25 03:02

Re: Important phone app needed
 
agreed, Slide to answer would be great, i sometimes get a different problem that i answer without actually wanting to, because a simple pad in my pocket or when i am taking it out of my pocket on the "answer" button it answers.

zdanee 2011-01-25 08:02

Re: Important phone app needed
 
Also the phone app should stay in memory and get priority over MicroB (and anything else). Whenever I load a page and CPU load is 100%, answering a call is impossible. There should be an option for any key to answer at least (volume rocker, camera key, etc.)

Switch_ 2011-01-25 08:14

Re: Important phone app needed
 
The problem with an app of tihs kind is that the telephony side of the N900's software is closed source, which means integrating code into it in the form of an open source app will be improbable, if not impossible, even though I hate that word.....

Wikiwide 2011-01-25 08:26

Re: Important phone app needed
 
Write it down not to forget to have something-like-this implemented in Cordia.
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=56822
I hope it is possible?

a98pmalcolm# 2011-01-25 19:45

Re: Important phone app needed
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Switch_ (Post 927954)
The problem with an app of tihs kind is that the telephony side of the N900's software is closed source, which means integrating code into it in the form of an open source app will be improbable, if not impossible, even though I hate that word.....

Maybe something Nokia would have to do as an update?

cfh11 2011-01-25 19:52

Re: Important phone app needed
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by a98pmalcolm# (Post 928433)
Maybe something Nokia would have to do as an update?

Hate to burst your bubble, but Nokia-provided enhancements for Maemo 5 are highly unlikely.

retsaw 2011-01-25 20:04

Re: Important phone app needed
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by zdanee (Post 927951)
Also the phone app should stay in memory and get priority over MicroB (and anything else). Whenever I load a page and CPU load is 100%, answering a call is impossible. There should be an option for any key to answer at least (volume rocker, camera key, etc.)

You can use shortcutd to run a dbus command to answer a call on short/long press of the camera key.

WereCatf 2011-01-25 20:09

Re: Important phone app needed
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by zdanee (Post 927951)
Also the phone app should stay in memory and get priority over MicroB (and anything else).

This is also what I've seen as a major gripe. If the phone has cellular connectivity, it should also trigger to keep phone app over anything else. I actually haven't checked what priority level the app is run on by default; if it isn't run at nice level -15 it would be simple to rename the app, create a shell script with the original name, and then have the script turn CPU to max and run the app at -15.

But how to reserve a set amount of RAM that gets only used by the phone app, that I do not know.

zdanee 2011-01-25 21:35

Re: Important phone app needed
 
Cannot we create our own phone app, and symlink from the original executeable? Is there anything an average developer cannot implement, like some encryption? As I understand there are a bunch of apps that make the phone app work, not all of them need to be replaced just the call answering screen.

WereCatf 2011-01-25 21:42

Re: Important phone app needed
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by zdanee (Post 928510)
Cannot we create our own phone app, and symlink from the original executeable?

Wut? What good would a phone app of our own be if you can't make phone calls with it?

zdanee 2011-01-25 22:16

Re: Important phone app needed
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by WereCatf (Post 928518)
Wut? What good would a phone app of our own be if you can't make phone calls with it?

All I want to change is the answering screen, and as far as I know the phone function is actually several apps and one of them is the answering screen. If we can write our own version of it probably we can make it stay in memory thus we can answer calls even on heavy CPU loads. I dont know, how these apps communicate with eachother, D-bus or pipes or whatever, but probably we can recreate and integrate it without replacing the app that handles the actual calls and stuff. Or maybe I'm completely wrong, but if we can create our own version, we wont be tied down to the closed-source default app.

BTW why wouldnt we be able to make calls with our own phone app? I'm sure as long as you are connected to the cellular network it is just sending a bunch of numbers probably well documented somewhere. Also there was the OpenMoko project and the Neo 1973 and Freerunner. Their software is completely open source (and based on linux). We can just check out their phone functions.

cfh11 2011-01-25 22:36

Re: Important phone app needed
 
IIRC the problem is not just that call UI is closed, it is that the OS is inextricably tied to the proprietary apps from Nokia (i.e. call UI, media player, HAM). So even if you were to develop an alternate call UI it would likely not tie into the rest of the UX properly or perhaps not work at all.

Thankfully, these problems appear to be nonexistent in Meego.


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