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PradaBrada 2011-02-01 00:20

Android overtakes Symbian as world's best-selling smartphone platform in Q4 2010
 
http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget....01311109nd.jpg

http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/31/c...selling-smart/

Its over Nokia, you either give the way or you gonna die

wmarone 2011-02-01 00:37

Re: Android overtakes Symbian as world's best-selling smartphone platform in Q4 2010
 
Why don't you go away and stay away?

PradaBrada 2011-02-01 00:43

Re: Android overtakes Symbian as world's best-selling smartphone platform in Q4 2010
 
Happy new year and best wishes to you too! :)

gerbick 2011-02-01 00:43

Re: Android overtakes Symbian as world's best-selling smartphone platform in Q4 2010
 
http://gerbick.com/images/popcorn.gif

Before folks start to go all up in arms... the drop from last year to this year is significant in terms of share, but not in terms of sales.

wmarone 2011-02-01 00:45

Re: Android overtakes Symbian as world's best-selling smartphone platform in Q4 2010
 
It may be, but that's not why he's here.

PradaBrada 2011-02-01 00:54

Re: Android overtakes Symbian as world's best-selling smartphone platform in Q4 2010
 
Face it, Google is mopping the floor with Nokia

MeeGo is a stillborn

uvatbc 2011-02-01 01:05

Re: Android overtakes Symbian as world's best-selling smartphone platform in Q4 2010
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by PradaBrada (Post 932985)

Did you see the 44% number out there? Guess who it belongs to?
We welcome the competition. It was lonely up here for so long.

gerbick 2011-02-01 01:10

Re: Android overtakes Symbian as world's best-selling smartphone platform in Q4 2010
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by uvatbc (Post 933015)
Did you see the 44% number out there? Guess who it belongs to?
We welcome the competition. It was lonely up here for so long.

That was last year. That double digit drop in share is not exactly a good thing.

PradaBrada 2011-02-01 01:15

Re: Android overtakes Symbian as world's best-selling smartphone platform in Q4 2010
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by uvatbc (Post 933015)
Did you see the 44% number out there? Guess who it belongs to?
We welcome the competition. It was lonely up here for so long.

Did you see that 615.1%? :)

kryptoniankid17 2011-02-01 01:20

Re: Android overtakes Symbian as world's best-selling smartphone platform in Q4 2010
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by PradaBrada (Post 933010)
Face it, Google is mopping the floor with Nokia

MeeGo is a stillborn

please man google doesbt sell handsets. Samsung, htc, motorolla sell handsets. LETs look at all those vendors against nokia. ITLL give u a more accurate pixture of what it really is.

uvatbc 2011-02-01 01:24

Re: Android overtakes Symbian as world's best-selling smartphone platform in Q4 2010
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by PradaBrada (Post 933018)
Did you see that 615.1%? :)

Usually indicates that the past year's share was negligible.
For example: Last year I had 1 cent (which I found on the road). Now I have $100 because I got a job. My growth since last year is 10000%.

Lies, damned lies and statistics

I do agree that the rise of Android has been impressive, but I don't see it ringing a death knell for anyone, least of all Nokia.

marxian 2011-02-01 01:33

Re: Android overtakes Symbian as world's best-selling smartphone platform in Q4 2010
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by PradaBrada (Post 933018)
Did you see that 615.1%? :)

Quick! Everyone buy tulips. They're the latest thing. :rolleyes:

PradaBrada 2011-02-01 01:38

Re: Android overtakes Symbian as world's best-selling smartphone platform in Q4 2010
 
@uvatbc: exactly, Android became market leader in little over a year :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by marxian (Post 933028)
Quick! Everyone buy tulips. They're the latest thing. :rolleyes:

no homo intended

uvatbc 2011-02-01 01:42

Re: Android overtakes Symbian as world's best-selling smartphone platform in Q4 2010
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by marxian (Post 933028)
Quick! Everyone buy tulips. They're the latest thing. :rolleyes:

LOL - I wonder if anyone will understand that reference without a little help from wikipedia.

marxian 2011-02-01 01:52

Re: Android overtakes Symbian as world's best-selling smartphone platform in Q4 2010
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by uvatbc (Post 933031)
LOL - I wonder if anyone will understand that reference without a little help from wikipedia.

The same sequence of events occurs time and time again, because people are lemmings, with no awareness of history.

maluka 2011-02-01 02:00

Re: Android overtakes Symbian as world's best-selling smartphone platform in Q4 2010
 
It's the California Gold Rush all over again.

marxian 2011-02-01 02:12

Re: Android overtakes Symbian as world's best-selling smartphone platform in Q4 2010
 
This is a market that is still in its infancy, so any predictions of long-term domination are folly. 15 years ago, who would have thought that Microsoft would be successful in the games console market? Also, many people spoke of the impending demise of Nintendo, following the relatively poor performance of the N64 and Gamecube. Then came the Wii.

In today's world, where people have short attention spans, it is only the simplest of narratives that receive attention.

raaj13 2011-02-01 03:19

Re: Android overtakes Symbian as world's best-selling smartphone platform in Q4 2010
 
what i have heard is that nokia was no 1 in hanset sold last year with samsung at no.2 and sony at 3.

jakiman 2011-02-01 03:29

Re: Android overtakes Symbian as world's best-selling smartphone platform in Q4 2010
 
Nokia sold around 450 million units in 2010 worldwide. That's as much as Samsung+HTC+Motorola+RIM+iPhone sales all added together. So drop in smartphone marketshare doesn't mean Nokia are selling less.

But in a sense of "OS", Android is definitely the biggest now.

http://www.gsmarena.com/2010_mobile_...-news-2268.php

Ayle 2011-02-01 03:41

Re: Android overtakes Symbian as world's best-selling smartphone platform in Q4 2010
 
I see a 8 millions units shipment volume increase which is more than Apple, Rim or MS...

ysss 2011-02-01 04:36

Re: Android overtakes Symbian as world's best-selling smartphone platform in Q4 2010
 
The smartphone market nearly doubled in 2010.

Though Nokia did a commendable job increasing their smartphone sales by about 30% during that period, they obviously missed A LOT of opportunities and let their competitors gain significant ground which will not be easy to recoup.

This doesn't even take into account the profit per unit, which Apple has always lead for the past few years. They might very well exceed Nokia's total profit from smartphone sales, even though they ship slightly less than half of Nokia's.

@uvatbc: your analogy may be more appropriate to Nokia's non smartphone sales. their profit per unit on that segment may be that low.

PradaBrada 2011-02-01 18:28

Re: Android overtakes Symbian as world's best-selling smartphone platform in Q4 2010
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ysss (Post 933097)
@uvatbc: your analogy may be more appropriate to Nokia's non smartphone sales. their profit per unit on that segment may be that low.

http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u...es/1zea4op.jpg

vi_ 2011-02-01 19:36

Re: Android overtakes Symbian as world's best-selling smartphone platform in Q4 2010
 
let us not forget that ANY phone running symbian 60 3rd+5th is technically a smartphone...that adds up to a whole loada lol, nice try faildroid.

PradaBrada 2011-02-01 19:40

Re: Android overtakes Symbian as world's best-selling smartphone platform in Q4 2010
 
http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u...0090637318.jpg

vi_ 2011-02-01 19:42

Re: Android overtakes Symbian as world's best-selling smartphone platform in Q4 2010
 
i dont get it, are you some kind of idiot?

buchanmilne 2011-02-01 19:54

Re: Android overtakes Symbian as world's best-selling smartphone platform in Q4 2010
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ysss (Post 933097)
The smartphone market nearly doubled in 2010.

IMHO, a big reason is because CDMA handset vendors finally got a smart OS, Andriod.

And Nokia doesn't ship a single CDMA smartphone.

pxa270 2011-02-01 23:08

Re: Android overtakes Symbian as world's best-selling smartphone platform in Q4 2010
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ysss (Post 933097)
This doesn't even take into account the profit per unit, which Apple has always lead for the past few years. They might very well exceed Nokia's total profit from smartphone sales, even though they ship slightly less than half of Nokia's.

It's much worse than that, Apple's phone profits exceeds Nokia's total (not just smartphone) profit by a significant margin. Apple is estimated to be earning around half of the entire phone industry profit these days, see http://www.asymco.com/2011/01/31/fou...stry-overview/
and in particular,
http://www.asymco.com/wp-content/upl...3.18.43-PM.png

atilla 2011-02-02 00:43

Re: Android overtakes Symbian as world's best-selling smartphone platform in Q4 2010
 
guys favours are different.
android is nice and maemo is it too.
they are both great on each own way.
there is no need to discuss in 1000000 threads whats better.
everyone should live his live and buy what he want.
.
.
.
except apple ;)

Bourdain 2011-02-02 04:27

Re: Android overtakes Symbian as world's best-selling smartphone platform in Q4 2010
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by atilla (Post 933768)
and maemo is it too

No it isn't, the foetus was delivered 3 months premature, half its cortex destroyed because the backstreet doctor botched his coat hanger abortion. A passing good samaritan with a heart of gold, no life and more money than sense found it in a trash can covered in saline burns, tried his best to resuscitate it, failed but decided to keep it in the attic like a ****ing lunatic anyway.

Hintry 2011-02-02 05:06

Re: Android overtakes Symbian as world's best-selling smartphone platform in Q4 2010
 
Looks like Android's sales figures may not be all that they seem...

http://www.appleinsider.com/articles..._variants.html

Quote:

Hot on the heels of Samsung admitting that it had exaggerated sales of its Android tablet to consumers, it is becoming clear that Google's Android platform definition is being stretched to include Chinese rivals, including China Mobile's Ophone and Tapas OS, a project run by the former president of Google China.

...

Describing the Chinese OMS as a "variant" of Google's Android platform is a troublesome stretch not just because China Mobile lacks any interest in using its forked version to support Google's ad platforms and services. OMS is also tweaked to use its own APIs and support WAP for web browsing. WAP (Wireless Application Protocol) is a mobile website technology that replaced the full Internet for mobile users there but hasn't ever caught on in the US.

China Mobile's OMS is therefore not only "not Google," its also incompatible with Android apps, and apparently more compatible with Windows Mobile. A report by an Asian technology newsletter said China Mobile issues its own SDK for OMS, and boasts around 600 apps for the OPhone. The company claims 430,000 developers for its platform. It invites Android developers to create apps for OMS, but the two are not the same platform in any meaningful sense.

...

That suggests most the growth in "Android" numbers is coming from no-name vendors selling devices in countries such as China, using devices that don't support Google's development of the OS (via ads or search services) nor even expand the platform in any meaningful way that could benefit Android users.

Bourdain 2011-02-02 05:18

Re: Android overtakes Symbian as world's best-selling smartphone platform in Q4 2010
 
That's racist.

daperl 2011-02-02 05:18

Re: Android overtakes Symbian as world's best-selling smartphone platform in Q4 2010
 
PradaBada join date 26-5-2010: $5

Bourdain join date 27-5-2010: $10

Resurfacing the same day to thank himself: priceless

There are some things schitzo trolls can't buy.

Bourdain 2011-02-02 05:23

Re: Android overtakes Symbian as world's best-selling smartphone platform in Q4 2010
 
Prada is my good friend, our relationship spans many fora.

I love him.

I had completely forgotten about this hellhole until he reminded me of some of the garbage you <removed> spout.

ossipena 2011-02-02 05:29

Re: Android overtakes Symbian as world's best-selling smartphone platform in Q4 2010
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bourdain (Post 933880)
Prada is my good friend, our relationship spans many fora.

I love him.

I had completely forgotten about this hellhole until he reminded me of some of the garbage you cretins spout.

I have heard about imaginary friends and dissociative identity disorder. those two would be $15 before the priceless part?

Bourdain 2011-02-02 05:31

Re: Android overtakes Symbian as world's best-selling smartphone platform in Q4 2010
 
Excuse me if I don't take any advice from the nation that has developed a culture of peeing in your pants in the winter to keep yourselves warm.

Hintry 2011-02-02 05:32

Re: Android overtakes Symbian as world's best-selling smartphone platform in Q4 2010
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bourdain (Post 933876)
That's racist.

WTF happened to your "chinamen" comment? I thought you had balls.

Bourdain 2011-02-02 05:33

Re: Android overtakes Symbian as world's best-selling smartphone platform in Q4 2010
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hintry (Post 933885)
WTF happened to your "chinamen" comment? I thought you had balls.

That would be the work of overbearing nazi-esque moderators, no doubt set forth by your snitching.

wmarone 2011-02-02 05:34

Re: Android overtakes Symbian as world's best-selling smartphone platform in Q4 2010
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hintry (Post 933885)
WTF happened to your "chinamen" comment? I thought you had balls.

I suspect a mod came by and sanitized it.

Hintry 2011-02-02 05:43

Re: Android overtakes Symbian as world's best-selling smartphone platform in Q4 2010
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by wmarone (Post 933887)
I suspect a mod came by and sanitized it.

Kinda not the same, is it? hehe

ysss 2011-02-02 05:44

Re: Android overtakes Symbian as world's best-selling smartphone platform in Q4 2010
 
http://images.inmagine.com/img/image...7/ih017020.jpg


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