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rahularora21 2011-02-02 18:44

*rumour* Nokia N9 with 1.6GHz Intel CPU, 1GB worth of RAM
 
check this site out:
http://www.gsmarena.com/meego_bug_re...-news-2284.php

Nokia N9 might be the game changer yet again!!!

wmarone 2011-02-02 18:45

Re: *rumour* Nokia N9 with 1.6GHz Intel CPU, 1GB worth of RAM
 
The search box is an awesome, powerful thing.

Reffyyyy 2011-02-02 18:49

Re: *rumour* Nokia N9 with 1.6GHz Intel CPU, 1GB worth of RAM
 
I hope the N9 has integrated Google Search so we don't have to see 8 threads about the same subject.

Google.com just does not suffice anymore.

Radicalz38 2011-02-02 19:09

Re: *rumour* Nokia N9 with 1.6GHz Intel CPU, 1GB worth of RAM
 
wait a minute... Intel CPU? oh good I guess it's time to shift to android!
ARM > Intel
Prepare to see phones with cooler fans and a more won't last long battery in the future :D

automagic68 2011-02-02 19:23

Re: *rumour* Nokia N9 with 1.6GHz Intel CPU, 1GB worth of RAM
 
This is good news. If this is true it looks like one of the Android makers(Samsung, HTC, LG) might look unprepared at MWC, not Nokia.

ericsson 2011-02-02 19:32

Re: *rumour* Nokia N9 with 1.6GHz Intel CPU, 1GB worth of RAM
 
You people are just so boring and predictable. If you actually looked at the link, you would be a bit surpriced.

I still think this one is a tablet, and it will be shown by both Intgel and Nokia rather soon. The N9 will come with ST Ericsson chipset IMO, and maybe Symbian.

mikecomputing 2011-02-02 19:33

Re: *rumour* Nokia N9 with 1.6GHz Intel CPU, 1GB worth of RAM
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rahularora21 (Post 934425)
check this site out:
http://www.gsmarena.com/meego_bug_re...-news-2284.php

Nokia N9 might be the game changer yet again!!!

Hahaha yet another false rumor from gsmarena.

This is just an cropped picture of the qwerty variant that never got released OR at the end was an prototype of E7.

Creamy Goodness 2011-02-02 19:37

Re: *rumour* Nokia N9 with 1.6GHz Intel CPU, 1GB worth of RAM
 
that "news" source is a forum, and their source is a thread on our forum. THAT I MADE. lol. um, thanks? no, it's just perpetuating more guesses as facts. if you go read my thread, my conclusion is WE KNOW NOTHING ABOUT THE N9.

If you can't find my thread, or are lazy, let me summarize:
nCDK is a bunch of parts stapled together onto a circuit board, and just because it's labeled medfield doesn't mean anything. They could have swapped half the parts out, the 1.6ghz might just be some other random cpu. It doesn't say penwell. We don't know what Intel will deliever as final silicon, and while it's fun to look at the parts they built the reference device out of, and make guesses about the N9, we have no proof of anything.
Those specs they put are really bad, why do they list gigabit lan and hdmi?

danramos 2011-02-02 20:56

Re: *rumour* Nokia N9 with 1.6GHz Intel CPU, 1GB worth of RAM
 
Ooo! Finally! Intel CPU's on a cell phone!!

http://picasaweb.google.com/data/med...CLiKkP-h9e_eKQ

Helmuth 2011-02-02 20:58

Re: *rumour* Nokia N9 with 1.6GHz Intel CPU, 1GB worth of RAM
 
Have no one considered that this specs could be from a Intel MeeGo Tablet? MeeGo is not handset only!

sjgadsby 2011-02-02 21:05

Re: *rumour* Nokia N9 with 1.6GHz Intel CPU, 1GB worth of RAM
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by danramos (Post 934520)

Woah, my TM-510 has never done that! Then again, I've never tried upgrading it to an Intel CPU.

If only the annoying, animated, winking smiley face were on screen as that sucker burned, that photo would be perfect.

Creamy Goodness 2011-02-02 21:11

Re: *rumour* Nokia N9 with 1.6GHz Intel CPU, 1GB worth of RAM
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Helmuth (Post 934522)
Have no one considered that this specs could be from a Intel MeeGo Tablet? MeeGo is not handset only!

we know it's not a tablet because the screen size and keyboard is on the side

tzsm98 2011-02-02 21:25

Re: *rumour* Nokia N9 with 1.6GHz Intel CPU, 1GB worth of RAM
 
Why do we need yet another "N9 Has Small Nuclear Reactor As Power Source" rumor sort of thread?

Brock 2011-02-02 21:25

Re: *rumour* Nokia N9 with 1.6GHz Intel CPU, 1GB worth of RAM
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Radicalz38 (Post 934443)
wait a minute... Intel CPU? oh good I guess it's time to shift to android!
ARM > Intel
Prepare to see phones with cooler fans and a more won't last long battery in the future :D

as far as i heard, the medfield cpu will be faster then tegra2 with lower power consumption. but i dont believe that the medfield will be seen in smartphones sooner then this summer/winter.

lets wait to more weeks and we will be a lot wiser ;)

kingoddball 2011-02-02 21:26

Re: *rumour* Nokia N9 with 1.6GHz Intel CPU, 1GB worth of RAM
 
Did you know: The N9 is a eeePC!

Creamy Goodness 2011-02-02 21:39

Re: *rumour* Nokia N9 with 1.6GHz Intel CPU, 1GB worth of RAM
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by danramos (Post 934520)
Ooo! Finally! Intel CPU's on a cell phone!!

http://picasaweb.google.com/data/med...CLiKkP-h9e_eKQ

hah
Why do you think intel partnered with nokia back in 2009?
Intel really has some top notch manufacturing, compilers, and they've been working on this cpu for 2 years. Hyperthreading is very efficient, and it's not going to run at 1.6ghz all the time. Oh well, I don't have to convince you. Did you know Intel spends about a billion dollars on marketing each year?

luiscesjr 2011-02-02 21:43

Re: *rumour* Nokia N9 with 1.6GHz Intel CPU, 1GB worth of RAM
 
RUMOR!

Nokia N9 With built-in Super HD camera!
3GHZ ARMv56 infinite core!
Nvidia Tegra 37!
120 Tb of Ram!
2 Kb of internal memory storage!

http://edubuzz.org/blogs/internetsaf...ith-camera.jpg

Quote:

Originally Posted by Creamy Goodness (Post 934556)
. Did you know Intel spends about a billion dollars on marketing each year?

And that's why AMD is much cheaper...

alextootchie 2011-02-02 21:45

Re: *rumour* Nokia N9 with 1.6GHz Intel CPU, 1GB worth of RAM
 
The source:
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...822#post932822

Netweaver 2011-02-02 22:04

Re: *rumour* Nokia N9 with 1.6GHz Intel CPU, 1GB worth of RAM
 
from the conversations on the meego- dev list t's quite clear that Harmattan is NOT dead and there's a whole team, seperate from the Meego team, in private.

stskeeps in his role as N900 Meego HW adaptation, in his quest for as much speed as possible for Meego or ARM, talks openly very often with a Nokia ARM performance guy, and he always talks about asking the 'harmattanam team when he does status updates.
his issue are very much ARM/neon/hard FP related, and if the best person in Nokia to talk to the performance guy of the Harmattan guys is ... what do you think ? He was even saying on the hard FP issue, that Harmattan had faced this issue before the Meego team. Of course, they had at least 6 months head start.
My gut feeling, no intel in Nokia's next Harmattan based handheld ...
future will tell if they stick to ARM, i have no glass ball but I'm convinced the N9/whatever will be ARM based.

For sources, check the meego-dev mailing list archves, everything from stskeeps is very good and informative for N900 owners.

tzsm98 2011-02-02 22:41

Re: *rumour* Nokia N9 with 1.6GHz Intel CPU, 1GB worth of RAM
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by luiscesjr (Post 934560)
RUMOR!

Nokia N9 With built-in Super HD camera!
3GHZ ARMv56 infinite core!
Nvidia Tegra 37!
120 Tb of Ram!
2 Kb of internal memory storage!

http://edubuzz.org/blogs/internetsaf...ith-camera.jpg



And that's why AMD is much cheaper...

Once again Nokia goes cheap on the hardware - no flash for the camera!

luiscesjr 2011-02-02 23:07

Re: *rumour* Nokia N9 with 1.6GHz Intel CPU, 1GB worth of RAM
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tzsm98 (Post 934602)
once again nokia goes cheap on the hardware - no flash for the camera!


lol
!!!!!!!!

Creamy Goodness 2011-02-02 23:27

Re: *rumour* Nokia N9 with 1.6GHz Intel CPU, 1GB worth of RAM
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Netweaver (Post 934582)
from the conversations on the meego- dev list t's quite clear that Harmattan is NOT dead and there's a whole team, seperate from the Meego team, in private.

stskeeps in his role as N900 Meego HW adaptation, in his quest for as much speed as possible for Meego or ARM, talks openly very often with a Nokia ARM performance guy, and he always talks about asking the 'harmattanam team when he does status updates.
his issue are very much ARM/neon/hard FP related, and if the best person in Nokia to talk to the performance guy of the Harmattan guys is ... what do you think ? He was even saying on the hard FP issue, that Harmattan had faced this issue before the Meego team. Of course, they had at least 6 months head start.
My gut feeling, no intel in Nokia's next Harmattan based handheld ...
future will tell if they stick to ARM, i have no glass ball but I'm convinced the N9/whatever will be ARM based.

For sources, check the meego-dev mailing list archves, everything from stskeeps is very good and informative for N900 owners.


I respect your opinion but I think it's silly for the MeeGo guys to be supplied with medfield devices and told it's their reference platform, and we see nokia and intel coughing up all these drivers for medfield platform stuff. Wouldn't nokia just tell intel to write their own damn drivers, and wouldn't they be using a omap platform for more validation of the OS? I guess they have the n900 to test on, but I always thought they wanted to guarantee it works on the n900 so we don't get pissed off, not just for their own purposes. Intel does need nokia to sell some phones with intel chips for sure, nobody is going to rush out and buy an intel branded phone I bet. Also, we never heard any announcement of st-erricson working with Nokia recently, if nokia wanted to use their u8500 platform i think they would have been helping them with that! u8500 was a joint venture between the two companies, but I mean on the software side, it sounds like the st-ericsson guys were doing all the work porting MeeGo.

danramos 2011-02-03 00:04

Re: *rumour* Nokia N9 with 1.6GHz Intel CPU, 1GB worth of RAM
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Creamy Goodness (Post 934621)
I always thought they wanted to guarantee it works on the n900 so we don't get pissed off

Oh my God, I think that was the cutest thing ever said here. Absolutely adorable.

danramos 2011-02-03 00:05

Re: *rumour* Nokia N9 with 1.6GHz Intel CPU, 1GB worth of RAM
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by luiscesjr (Post 934614)

lol
!!!!!!!!

Although I live in the United States, I understand Portuguese fluently. Your signature says, "Homem de preto o que é que você faz?" (translated: "Black people, what are you doing?") I don't get it. :P heh

Netweaver 2011-02-03 02:11

Re: *rumour* Nokia N9 with 1.6GHz Intel CPU, 1GB worth of RAM
 
the medfield devices are the replacement reference hw designs for the now canned Moorestown based Aava. they're only for intel architecture.

Also, in the the initial announcement in the Meego TSG it was clearly said that the i version was the consumer (finished look) version, and the N version an internal dev. version. but identical in base hw, That tells me that the Nokia version is not to be sold.

would Nokia be testing NOW on a device they're not going to sell, with the idea of later on selling the i version anyways ? I don't think so, i'm sure they would also be testing on the i version.

To me it looks the i version is a proper handheld formfactor (maybe as shown on the picture of the intel conference and the n version is nothing but the same hw in a cheaper, glorified breadboard version, pictures also leaked before.

In general, it would be a good joint development process to have 2 teams give access to each type of reference design.

even intel is testing meego on N900, it was even stated this week by stskeeps that he tought it was funny seeing an intel guy getting exited over bugs on n900, an arm platform :)

the 'pure' Meego world has 2 specific teams, mostly looking at their own ref. designs but also responsible to crosscheck bugs and qa reports. Open transparent joint development, not easy when competing cpu architectures are involved.

these 'pure' meego teams are technically and politically independent from the harmattan team, a Nokia only team, well hidden, only once in a while bits and pieces of info are coming out, but always in relation to the N900 meego adaptation work ...
remember, harmattan is not meego, it's an meego instance, but will be able to run the same software thanks to the Qt layers.

The Meego teams HAD to use the N900 as reference design, as the successor was not public yet, maybe the hw not fixed at the time. and they knew, once it's getting in the 'pure' meego world, then the specs etc, the competitive edge, marketing power, would be gone, as happened with the medfield devices. So they had no choice.

Nokia was already working long time before the meego merger on maemo6/harmattan. specific hw is less important for the harmattan team, nokia is big and strong enough to have multiple team in parallel doing similar things ...

maybe somebody can do a report on the dates for all the maemo bugs "fixed in harmattan". Then you could somehow guess till what time they were at least working on Harmattan.

pffff, long text to type on a N900 keyboard :)

Of course, these are my views, based on things i see happening, future will prove me right or wrong. i don't care anyway, i just hope my N900 gets a proper second life after all, and Nokia can stop the crazy iPhone/android future predictions, with top notch hw and a sweet but powerfull/flexible/open/appealing OS.

wmarone 2011-02-03 02:16

Re: *rumour* Nokia N9 with 1.6GHz Intel CPU, 1GB worth of RAM
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Netweaver (Post 934670)
remember, harmattan is not meego, it's an meego instance, but will be able to run the same software thanks to the Qt layers.

Remember: If it is not MeeGo enough that it passes compliance, it cannot use the trademark and thus being "compatible" is a moot point.

I suspect it is way closer to real MeeGo than before, anything else would be shooting themselves in the foot.

SSLMM 2011-02-03 02:31

Re: *rumour* Nokia N9 with 1.6GHz Intel CPU, 1GB worth of RAM
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by danramos (Post 934637)
Although I live in the United States, I understand Portuguese fluently. Your signature says, "Homem de preto o que é que você faz?" (translated: "Black people, what are you doing?") I don't get it. :P heh

It's actually "Men in black,what are you doing?", but still i don't get the meaning too, and i'm portuguese :confused:

maxximuscool 2011-02-03 02:35

Re: *rumour* Nokia N9 with 1.6GHz Intel CPU, 1GB worth of RAM
 
Finally! N9 will be able to warm those finnish guys in winter with an Atom CPU inside. There will be a sticker says "Warning: Please keep the phone operate under temperature of 10 Celcius, constantly using the device for more than 20mins each time may cause 1st degree burn in some country. Please consult with the doctor if this phone is right for your climate. "

rahularora21 2011-02-03 06:53

Re: *rumour* Nokia N9 with 1.6GHz Intel CPU, 1GB worth of RAM
 
Lol. Calm down guys. I did say its a rumour.
Ntns confirmed we all know that. But we can surely hope cant we?? :)

luiscesjr 2011-02-03 13:48

Re: *rumour* Nokia N9 with 1.6GHz Intel CPU, 1GB worth of RAM
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by danramos (Post 934637)
Although I live in the United States, I understand Portuguese fluently. Your signature says, "Homem de preto o que é que você faz?" (translated: "Black people, what are you doing?") I don't get it. :P heh

Hey, no don't get me wrong mate =)
I am not racist.
That means " Men in Black, what do you do? "
It's a phrase a police here usually says.
From this movie .

Stskeeps 2011-02-03 14:32

Re: *rumour* Nokia N9 with 1.6GHz Intel CPU, 1GB worth of RAM
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Creamy Goodness (Post 934621)
I guess they have the n900 to test on, but I always thought they wanted to guarantee it works on the n900 so we don't get pissed off, not just for their own purposes.

Plenty of advantages to doing this besides not pissing people off (which, for the record, most of you are constantly are being anyway ;):

* Cheap and capable development device for MeeGo ARM
* Device that exists in the open, doesn't require a NDA to use, QA and develop for
* Linux has already in the past been working on the device - less hardware adaptation needed, people have time to actually develop upper layers instead of fighting with constant crashes
* Useful for validating MeeGo on ARM and quality checking
* Due to MeeGo ARM is compiled for ARMv7 in a device agnostic manner, the same work being done to improve MeeGo ARM using N900 will (and is) enabling easy hardware adaptation on Broadcom, nVidia Tegra 2, ST-E U8500, Marvell, TI OMAP3/4, Qualcomm QSD..

danramos 2011-02-03 20:12

Re: *rumour* Nokia N9 with 1.6GHz Intel CPU, 1GB worth of RAM
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SSLMM (Post 934674)
It's actually "Men in black,what are you doing?", but still i don't get the meaning too, and i'm portuguese :confused:

Quote:

Originally Posted by luiscesjr (Post 934958)
Hey, no don't get me wrong mate =)
I am not racist.
That means " Men in Black, what do you do? "
It's a phrase a police here usually says.
From this movie .

If it's "men in black", wouldn't it be "homem em preto?" ("de" making it "men of [being] black", "em" making it "men in [wearing] black")? It's nuanced, and I'm not in the habit of speaking Portuguese all the time so I could be wrong. :)

luiscesjr 2011-02-03 23:17

Re: *rumour* Nokia N9 with 1.6GHz Intel CPU, 1GB worth of RAM
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by danramos (Post 935251)
If it's "men in black", wouldn't it be "homem em preto?" ("de" making it "men of [being] black", "em" making it "men in [wearing] black")? It's nuanced, and I'm not in the habit of speaking Portuguese all the time so I could be wrong. :)

Well Danramos you are not wrong, but not that right eighter =)
The translation of in, it's not specifically em.
In portuguese, "in" could be translated as "em, de , dentro..." and so on...
And in this case, the concordance ( is this word right? ) asks for
de, explaining that they wear black.
If I had used em preto, it could be that they are inside any black
thing, without specificity ( right too? ).

Hope this helps =)

danramos 2011-02-03 23:21

Re: *rumour* Nokia N9 with 1.6GHz Intel CPU, 1GB worth of RAM
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by luiscesjr (Post 935400)
Well Danramos you are not wrong, but not that right eighter =)
The translation of in, it's not specifically em.
In portuguese, "in" could be translated as "em, de , dentro..." and so on...
And in this case, the concordance ( is this word right? ) asks for
de, explaining that they wear black.
If I had used em preto, it could be that they are inside any black
thing, without specificity ( right too? ).

Hope this helps =)

Actually, it does. The context is what decides which specific word conveys a specific meaning and it didn't seem right to me--but you're far more likely to be right seeing as how you live the language far more than I do. Thanks! Always good to meet other Portuguese speaking folks online! :)

Also--it's a FAR more interesting conversation than the original one. Thanks again! ;)

luiscesjr 2011-02-04 00:33

Re: *rumour* Nokia N9 with 1.6GHz Intel CPU, 1GB worth of RAM
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by danramos (Post 935404)
Actually, it does. The context is what decides which specific word conveys a specific meaning and it didn't seem right to me--but you're far more likely to be right seeing as how you live the language far more than I do. Thanks! Always good to meet other Portuguese speaking folks online! :)

Also--it's a FAR more interesting conversation than the original one. Thanks again! ;)

Haha, I see it's really interesting!
Well, portuguese I studied for all my life, since I am brazilian,
but we never stop learning, it's a real hard language, so I imagine
how it can be for you, who probably is a english native speaker,
to understand a latin language!

JamesBond@ge 2011-02-04 00:33

Re: *rumour* Nokia N9 with 1.6GHz Intel CPU, 1GB worth of RAM
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SSLMM (Post 934674)
It's actually "Men in black,what are you doing?", but still i don't get the meaning too, and i'm portuguese :confused:

Hahaha! More Portuguese lessons for DanRamos please! k thx.

By the way, can this N9 make phonecalls?

skykooler 2011-02-04 00:34

Re: *rumour* Nokia N9 with 1.6GHz Intel CPU, 1GB worth of RAM
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Reffyyyy (Post 934432)
I hope the N9 has integrated Google Search so we don't have to see 8 threads about the same subject.

Google.com just does not suffice anymore.

umm...the N900 has a Google Search widget.

danramos 2011-02-07 19:57

Re: *rumour* Nokia N9 with 1.6GHz Intel CPU, 1GB worth of RAM
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by luiscesjr (Post 935446)
Haha, I see it's really interesting!
Well, portuguese I studied for all my life, since I am brazilian,
but we never stop learning, it's a real hard language, so I imagine
how it can be for you, who probably is a english native speaker,
to understand a latin language!

Well, not THAT hard--my grandparents ONLY speak Portuguese and my parents were both born in Portugal and only spoke Portuguese during the first few years of my life until I started going to school and they wanted us to speak English at home to help bolster our professional careers--a decision I'm very happy that they had made. Just the same, it's great to learn anything and I've tried to learn whatever I can about Portuguese and to some degree Japanese (thanks to friends I used to hang around with in California) in particular whenever possible.

Quote:

Originally Posted by JamesBond@ge (Post 935447)
Hahaha! More Portuguese lessons for DanRamos please! k thx.

By the way, can this N9 make phonecalls?

Possibly even makes phone calls in Portuguese!

vkv.raju 2011-02-08 12:54

Re: *rumour* Nokia N9 with 1.6GHz Intel CPU, 1GB worth of RAM
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by danramos (Post 938366)
Possibly even makes phone calls in Portuguese!

Wouldn't that be the turtleneck guy?
Next $10 upgrade will support the user speaking Russian, French, German, Hindi, etc... And the fans go like "WoW!, thats freaking awesome!"
That's an amazing ecosystem. Now I understand why other manufacturers/companies feel jealous about it!


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