Since you love comparing... 10 Ways The Nokia N800 Is Better Than Apple’s iPhone
 

Re: Since you love comparing... 10 Ways The Nokia N800 Is Better Than Apple’s iPhone
 

The best thing on that page was the Ron Paul campaign button.

The iPhone and N800 are not comparable and anyone that makes the distinction that they are has a very small grasp on both technologies.

Re: Since you love comparing... 10 Ways The Nokia N800 Is Better Than Apple’s iPhone
 

I believe that the n800 and iPhone ARE comparable devices. Both are
intended for mobile use of the internet. Both devices are also capable media players.

Of course the n800 is not a phone but with the price difference you could buy a phone to go with it.

Re: Since you love comparing... 10 Ways The Nokia N800 Is Better Than Apple’s iPhone
 

you can compare a monkey to a bird, so what? they are not intended for the same target audience so comparing them is meaningless if your trying put them in the same category.

Re: Since you love comparing... 10 Ways The Nokia N800 Is Better Than Apple’s iPhone
 

One is called phone, one is called tablet. I don't see the comparison. My E61 and N95 can do all the same functions of the N800 and more. Are they comparable? Survey says: Nope. Anyway, before this topic completely comes off the tracks, I am bailing.

Re: Since you love comparing... 10 Ways The Nokia N800 Is Better Than Apple’s iPhone
 

I thought about it and you can compare it, just not alone side by side. For instance having the N800 with a standard non-smartphone(a phone that has 3g/edge service that connects to N800) vs having just one device like the iPhone that tries to capture both worlds. So in a way you can compare.

Re: Since you love comparing... 10 Ways The Nokia N800 Is Better Than Apple’s iPhone
 

I think the IPhone will be a great device. In fact, it really trumps the N800 in quite a few areas, but not all. In my situation, having a separate phone and N800 makes sense. I don't have much occasion to use my N800 in the car, except when I'm out of town (really the only time I use my cell phone). I can pair them in those situations.

My wife uses our cell phone at home all the time to call her family out of state, and If I had an IPhone, I'd be handing off my toy every time she wanted to call someone. Two devices make sense for me. That doesn't mean my situation won't change in the future, and that the IPhone won't be better for some of us. A year from now, they'll both be obsolete....

Re: Since you love comparing... 10 Ways The Nokia N800 Is Better Than Apple’s iPhone
 

Come to think about it, there's another reason not to like the iPhone....

Personal Privacy Invasion of Photo Libraries....

Did you know that any pictures stored on, or taken with, your cellphone are considered the property of the cellphone company you go through? They have the right (if you signed their contract they do) to log on to your phone, view, upload, and keep any photo you have stored on there. With the N800... all of our photos are not on the phone, they are on memory cards.

Who wants our Corporate masters looking over our shoulders into our lives?

This is yet one more strategic move to rob us of even more privacy.

Take care.

Re: Since you love comparing... 10 Ways The Nokia N800 Is Better Than Apple’s iPhone
 

Which carrier has this clause in their contract? To my knowledge it's certainly not the case with carriers in the UK - to be honest, I doubt anyone in this country (UK) would sign a contract with such a clause (assuming they actually read the contract of course!)

I've never seen such a clause discussed on the specialist UK mobile forums so I'm pretty confident it's not in force over here, and good job too as it's an outrageous policy to try and enforce *anywhere*.

Re: Since you love comparing... 10 Ways The Nokia N800 Is Better Than Apple’s iPhone
 

Please do not compare a CELL PHONE with an Internet Tablet, 2 totally different products on completely different kinds of platforms even if they share some of the same functionality, much like a motorcyle and a car, you just can't compare the 2... they may get you to the same destination but they are not the same.:eek:

Re: Since you love comparing... 10 Ways The Nokia N800 Is Better Than Apple’s iPhone
 

Apples and oranges, yes - but people who already have contracts with carriers (and who doesn't?) and are considering breaking them to get the iPhone should seriously consider the N800 as an alternative.

Re: Since you love comparing... 10 Ways The Nokia N800 Is Better Than Apple’s iPhone
 

The iphone has lots of good software that works.

Competition is over!

The only reasons to choose the N800 over the Iphone I can see are cost and the need for a larger screen.

Re: Since you love comparing... 10 Ways The Nokia N800 Is Better Than Apple’s iPhone
 

I don't know what cellphone you're using, but mine stores pictures on an SD card, nowhere else.

Even with 1.3 mp camera phones, you just can't store all that many pictures within memory (typically 64M, maybe 128M or so). Some sort of external media is needed.

R.
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Re: Since you love comparing... 10 Ways The Nokia N800 Is Better Than Apple’s iPhone
 

Anyone who fails to see that the iPhone and N800 are competing for the same customer base has a very small grasp on market forces. Anyone who owns an iPhone will not buy an N800 as the feature overlap is too great; and face it, many more people are going to own an iPhone in the first month than have ever owned a Maemo device.

Yes, potentially an N800 + mobile phone can provide the same functionality, but then:

1. The software is not as polished or (I'm going out on a limb which I feel fairly sturdy on) reliable
2. The N800 is much bigger (which is both an advantage and disadvantage)
3. It's not as integrated, or - conversely - it's componentised (again, both a pro and a con)
4. ...

Just because the devices don't overlap 100% in their feature set does not mean they're not competitors.

Similarly the Foleo and the Asus Eee PC when released this summer will be competitors, and ones I will seriously consider getting.

Cheers,

Andrew

Re: Since you love comparing... 10 Ways The Nokia N800 Is Better Than Apple’s iPhone
 

Aok, are there anything comparable to Pidgin on iPhone?Or maybe, xchat?And can I even use iPhone to connect to remote host using OpenVPN or maybe, some SSH app will be here?No?What?Developers are only allowed to write some web crap as "software"?Yep, total winner.But n800 is rather resembles PC - if some feature needed you have to install software and got it.iPhone will be just phone, not even smartphone since smart phone means ability to run not lame web crap but a decent applications written in native code so they can run fast enough to decode video for example.Web crap will never have speed enough to decode DIVX on it's own.So, on SMART phones as well as on n800 you can set up NEW player if you dislike built-in one.On iPhone you can not.You're FORCED to stick to "software that works".Without options.Kinda boring device.For example no built-in players will be ever able to compete with mplayer on n800 or TCPMP on palm\PocketPC.Built in players are supporting too few formats.They're toys, even if they're working ok.

Re: Since you love comparing... 10 Ways The Nokia N800 Is Better Than Apple’s iPhone
 

Do you think the owners of iPhones care about SSH, OpenVPN, etc...? They care about having a phone that makes calls, having their music, and some web/native applications. What is hard to grasp about this? They are too different devices. The difference is, one will probably work out of the box with almost no learning curve, 3 second faults, reboot issues, touch screen issues, etc... and the other is still a beta device being sold as a finished product, that happens not to be a phone by the way.

Re: Since you love comparing... 10 Ways The Nokia N800 Is Better Than Apple’s iPhone
 

Glad you mentioned market forces. The iPhone will not compete as a direct competitor to the N800. It should be quite obvious why. Can the N800 sync with iTunes, sync contacts, calendars, notes, any syncing at all. Survey says: NO! Feature overlap? Do you mean native, built in features? Last time I looked the iPhone has many more than the N800. The N800 is a build yourself and run it platform, while the iPhone will have them built and sold for users to decide which ones to buy. For the most part this will present the average user with a more logical choice as the applications that run on the iPhone will have been tested, verified and certified as working.

They are two different platforms, looking for two different markets. If a host of N800 users suddenly migrate to the iPhone, this should tell the story about which is a better and more usable platform I would say.

Re: Since you love comparing... 10 Ways The Nokia N800 Is Better Than Apple’s iPhone
 

In one paragraph you say they don't compete, and then in the next say N800 users can "migrate to the iPhone".

That means they're competing.

You may think the competition is so utterly in favour of the iPhone to be not worth discussion, but that's not what we're discussing. Your argument adds weight to the initial point that Nokia *can* learn lots from the iPhone and Apple, whether in terms of marketing, UI design or software polish.

Re: Since you love comparing... 10 Ways The Nokia N800 Is Better Than Apple’s iPhone
 

I do love your selective selection of my texts to misrepresent my statements. What I said was: Quite different from what you presume I said. The key word in my statement being "'if". Personally I could not care less if the iPhone, which is a phone and sold as such, outsells the N800, which is an Internet Table and sold as such, thus NO COMPARISON in my book. They are two different devices selling to two different markets which should also be quite easy to see. My argument simply states that there is no comparison between the two devices while you may think that there is. Great. That's your opinion and I am entitled to mine. A comparison would be between the N770 and the N800, or the iPhone against other phones, say the N95 or the E61, but to think that an Internet Tablet is comparable to a phone makes no sense and does not represent a real comparison in my book.

Re: Since you love comparing... 10 Ways The Nokia N800 Is Better Than Apple’s iPhone
 

So aflegg you have over 900 posts in this forum do you provide code/development support or work for Nokia ? Just wondering why your backing this up as if it where worthy to be compared with the Iphone...? N800 is not even out of alpha status

Re: Since you love comparing... 10 Ways The Nokia N800 Is Better Than Apple’s iPhone
 

Aflegg does contribute. And he is greatly appreciated.

That said, the n800 and iPhone have too much feature crossover. Nokia isn't targeting hackers and programmers. Consumers barely know how to install apps. They will use the built in apps 90% of the time.

Re: Since you love comparing... 10 Ways The Nokia N800 Is Better Than Apple’s iPhone
 

Which consumers are you talking about? The N800 is not a consumer device, and has a very and I mean very limited following, where as the iPhone is marketed as a cross-consumer device. Appealing to young and old, men and women, etc..... Show me where the N800 even comes close to such mass appeal, and please don't use the old tired, "people are stupid and will fall for anything" argument as this can be said about those who purchased the N800.

Re: Since you love comparing... 10 Ways The Nokia N800 Is Better Than Apple’s iPhone
 

If you want a iPhone you should probably consider an alternative. Devices like the Sony Ericsson W950i have been out for more than a year. Its got touchscreen, "full-internet browsing", mp3 player, allows third party apps (my brother has tomtom on it and worldmate) and etc. Word of advice, if you have all this already, buying the iPhone for $500-599 will only had a few extra feature, try not to buy it because you can resize photos in a new way and the screen turns when your hand turns (which is what most people are attracted to).. all you doing then by buying this is trying to show off - if thats the main reasons you're buying the phone, I mean really there is nothing that special about this phone, get over this phone already. Oooo, white, silver and shiny finish - give me break. old news.

Re: Since you love comparing... 10 Ways The Nokia N800 Is Better Than Apple’s iPhone
 

An alternative to what? There are many people that actually like this device and this seems to be the problem with this particular thread. From the tone of many of the posts here, people that would spend THEIR money on it tend to be looked down upon as "fanboys", "stupid", "Apple maniacs", "susceptible to Apple's evil marketing tactics", etc..... It is their choice, their money and last but not least, their business.

Re: Since you love comparing... 10 Ways The Nokia N800 Is Better Than Apple’s iPhone
 

I don't care if it's Nokia/Apple or whoever I just want a handheld device that allows me to have FULL web-browsing and messaging functionality, the ability to make phone calls would be a plus and a nice interface UI is definitely a plus... which is why I use the XP skin on my N800 because it "LOOKS" great.

Price is not the issue if I actually get what I paid for...

Easy to hold case that looks stylish is great to... Do I think I would get an iPhone... probably not... unless of course I play with one and am impressed, so far I am not jumping out of my boots to get one...

All I know is that from my experience of Nokia phones, to my N-gage to my N800... that I have a bad taste in my mouth...

Re: Since you love comparing... 10 Ways The Nokia N800 Is Better Than Apple’s iPhone
 

@Testerj,

More good points. Wasted though I think. I feel the exact same way. I have the N95 and even though it has some issues, I prefer it much, much more to the N800 that I had. I would not even take an N800 if someone was giving it away unless to sell it of course and buy something else.

Re: Since you love comparing... 10 Ways The Nokia N800 Is Better Than Apple’s iPhone
 

I just wonder why this sort of exaggerated statements are necessary.

N800 may have its flaws, but for most of us it is stable, does what it is supposed to do and we are happy with it.

Re: Since you love comparing... 10 Ways The Nokia N800 Is Better Than Apple’s iPhone
 

I am a newbie on here & technology is not my thing, but I just wanted to say that I also love my N800 - but then I don't really have anything else to compare it against. I certainly won't be getting rid of mine anytime soon.

All I will say is it does what I want it to, mainly internet access & the ability to see & chat with my 3 year old daughter when I am away with work.

Re: Since you love comparing... 10 Ways The Nokia N800 Is Better Than Apple’s iPhone
 

Well good for you... go join the fanboy club... I haven't found any application thats bug free... when sending emails it doesn't know when to properly capatilize things.. the touch screen works ok some times.. then others it doesn't...

If you think it's a finished product great, maybe I should become a salesperson so I can sell you some bird poop and tell you it's a 3 course meal

Re: Since you love comparing... 10 Ways The Nokia N800 Is Better Than Apple’s iPhone
 

Before you become a salesperson, you had better grow up first and learn how to talk with adult people.

Re: Since you love comparing... 10 Ways The Nokia N800 Is Better Than Apple’s iPhone
 

Damn testerj getting a bit testy aren't you. I think its nice to hear that other than tech geeks are enjoying the device. He aight got to be part of no fanboi club to express his good experience with the decvice. Damn - you got issues man.

Re: Since you love comparing... 10 Ways The Nokia N800 Is Better Than Apple’s iPhone
 

Everyone of you yentas complaining about the N800 should just go back to your Windows Mobile & Palm devices because we all know how much better they are...LOL

Re: Since you love comparing... 10 Ways The Nokia N800 Is Better Than Apple’s iPhone
 

Palm Blazer provides the BEST web experience.

Re: Since you love comparing... 10 Ways The Nokia N800 Is Better Than Apple’s iPhone
 

ha. don't make me laugh. LOL. to late.

Re: Since you love comparing... 10 Ways The Nokia N800 Is Better Than Apple’s iPhone
 

the i-phone was made for girls
so let the ladies have their fun

Re: Since you love comparing... 10 Ways The Nokia N800 Is Better Than Apple’s iPhone
 

The N800. Strong enough for a woman, PH balanced for a man.

Re: Since you love comparing... 10 Ways The Nokia N800 Is Better Than Apple’s iPhone
 

iphone is a phone, hence the name. nokia internet tablet is...well an internet tablet. Stop comparing.

Re: Since you love comparing... 10 Ways The Nokia N800 Is Better Than Apple’s iPhone
 

ok. ok people - if you going to post a message read the whole post and stop saying the same sh*t. we know what people have said already, and we choose to agree or disagree, but unless you have anything new or useful to say then this post is closed!!

Re: Since you love comparing... 10 Ways The Nokia N800 Is Better Than Apple’s iPhone
 

1. phone
2. internet

Re: Since you love comparing... 10 Ways The Nokia N800 Is Better Than Apple’s iPhone
 

I made the same comparison about 2 pages ago and you still have people wanting to compare. Your posts, while true and factual, are wasted on those that see only what they want to see.