N9 with an Atom CPU?
 

http://thenokian9blog.com/2011/02/04...iphone-killer/
Some of the links from that article are interesting.
I am a bit skeptical about an Intel Atom in a cellphone, but if this is really true then it would be amazing, especially if it can run standard OpenGL (not ES) programs. In theory, we could install XP on it (dual boot) and play real games...
It would be probably the coolest cellphone ever made.

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1) Search function. There are quite a few threads on this already.
2) The Intel Atom SoCs use PowerVR GPUs just like most ARM SoCs.

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Yes, I know there were other threads, but this is a new article with some new information.
Anyway, you think there will be no standard OpenGL support? Then what's the point in having an Intel CPU with Meego? Part of the nice thing about x86 is the ability to run 'real' OSes, otherwise ARMs are better for small devices due to their power efficiency.

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Yes, then please post it THERE to support a ongoing discussion and don't create for each update on this topic a own Thread! :mad:

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This would probably be the coolest cellphone ever made.

http://i.imgur.com/oksyQ.png

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The specs are the same that where discovered by members over here long time ago already and the pic is the winner design of the design by the community over at Nokia Coversation last year...

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In every thread that mentions N9/Atom?

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But the pic of the Intel guy holding something that looks like it is new, yes?

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lmfao that phone looks sweet.

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Which is why threads get bumped in Active Topics and the forum topic listing.

[quote[Anyway, you think there will be no standard OpenGL support?[/quote]
The entire SoC line of Atoms is based around using the PowerVR core, which has never supported full OpenGL. Not to mention that OpenGL 4 will be compatible with OpenGL ES, so it's a moot issue.

Having Intel as a supplier and a well known architecture.

If the power efficiency gains in Medfield are accurate, ARM may be given stiff competition. And MeeGo is a "real" OS. It's not Windows, but it's still a real OS.

You can't exactly load XP on a Medfield system and have it just work, many of these systems are dropping legacy functionality that older, closed OSes don't support at all. You can still use Wine, though ;)

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The PVR, like virtually any other gfx chip, supports whatever the driver is up to. And the driver Intel got supports up even DX10 (and ofcourse OpenGL2).

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So for you new means last few minutes? Was it mentioned before here?

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yes by some one with no source

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It's not a moot issue at all. A lot of applications use Open GL 1.4 or 2.0, so they won't work if the only OpenGL context provided is 4.0, as they are not backwards compatible.

ARM is pretty well known in the embedded space, since the vast majority of embedded devices use ARM. And having one supplier instead of multiple ones is not a good thing.

I seriously doubt we will see a battery life comparable with a N900 if an Atom SoC is used.

So long as we can use 'vanilla' Linux, such as Fedora or Ubuntu then it would be nice. Then we can use virtualization (or even wine) to run Win stuff. But I don't consider Meego a "real" OS, it is developed for embedded devices not for desktop. When I think of an OS I think of the applications ecosystem as well, not just the kernel and GNU stuff. Can it run Skype, Flash, Opera, and other closed source applications without specific support from those application developers?

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This looks like an issue to take up with the application developer.

If you select OMAP your only supplier is TI. Same for any other ARM SoC.

MeeGo is quite the real OS. It's been designed to use all of the same libraries that are used in Fedora and Ubuntu. No "bionic" or "uClibc" or custom, used-nowhere-else widget toolkits and GUI subsystems. The only thing "designed" about it are the reference user interfaces.

Well, on x86 with Linux, the answer is generally yes. But then, since they're closed source you're stuck depending on their support regardless of the OS you use.

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blah blah blah. that pic was leaked on my thread first, its not useful to link to a site that links to a site that coped from here. sorry but the post that contained the pic was deleted so i cant show u. but plenty of news sites still link back here that broke that ******** story. hope that tells you something. this happened at least a week ago. OLD NEWS.

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oh, and
1. we dont KNOW what an n9 will have. stupid news sites guessing what is what are just confusing people.
2. everyone sane expects it to have an intel cpu anyways, don't act so surprised
3. nobody cares about anyone else's opinion about cpu quality or technology and its all been said , so if you are not willing to verify all the facts and present some actual NEW info, please don't post anything in a NEW thread

sorry but when you posted your thread, did it not say HEY HERE IS SOME SIMILAR THREDS, MAYBE YOU DONT NEED A NEW TOPIC? maybe that is not working because the stupid search can't find 'n9' due to it being 2 letters and too short. just asking. administrators might like to know...

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LOL, are you even serious? You think big companies (some of which are even not in business anymore) will take their time to port their software to OpenGL 4 just so that people using a N9 can use it?

All ARM CPUs will have many common things, such as the instruction set. Sure, they have different GPUs and other units, which require special code. But for X86 CPUs you have much fewer options (Intel, AMD and Via), and you need special code for their auxiliary units too.

Will Mesa work with the new chip?

Not true. Most of the closed source programs designed to run on Linux will generally run on any Linux distro. The binaries are mostly compatible between distros. Will they run on Meego too?

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Maybe you should have followed your own advice when you recently started this thread? http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=68743
It's not like there were no other N9 threads before yours.

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Some folks here are so anal, but they are not aware of it themselves by the look of it. Whenever someone post something that has some resemblance to a previous post, the anal horde steps in en mass, completely ignoring the number one cardinal rule of BBS: Stay on topic.

No one in their right mind prefers one single thread about the N9. But the anal horde prefers one huge "truly epic", "awesome", thread. You see, the whole idea is to obtain looong threads. The fact that 99% of posts in that thread is junk doesn't matter, "truly epic" is good, on topic is bad.

Maybe, just maybe, most people come here to discuss things, not to satisfy the (anal) cravings of the anal horde.

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I have read that meego is dished at nokia so I only expext shitty wp7 from them. so you probadly means ava but thats more exacly intel medfield cpu not atom.

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I purposely made mine different so don't be calling me a hypocrite. It's not a "look what news I found on a blog" thread, like most (if not all) of the others. It's the only thread that has actually GENERATED news stories. People copy it to other forums, people register here just to write what else they found in the bug reports and whatever else in that thread.