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Thoughts on the new WebOS devices? I'm most excited by the Veer with the tiny 2.6 inch screen.

http://www.palm.com/us/assets/images...ave-it-all.png

http://www.palm.com/us/assets/images...r-together.png

http://www.palm.com/us/assets/images...ng-hpwebos.png

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Linux-based, touch friendly, coming to smartphones, tablets and computers. How come that sounds so familiar?

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I love them! I had Palm devices many years before getting my N800. It's nice to see Palm back in the game with vengeance :) HP seems to have similar plans for webOS as Nokia & Intel have for Meego. It would be great if the new strategy of Nokia would in fact be some kind of cooperation with webOS.

Dreaming aside, I'm hoping Nokia will finally release a N8X0 sized device that I could use for the demanding technical stuff, so I could get a HPalm Veer as a simple & elegant phone to accompany it :)

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I here WebOs is coming to desktops and laptops

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It is true WebOs is coming to desktop PCs http://www.zdnet.com/blog/btl/with-w...-windows/44649
It seems like computing is moving back towards the integrated model where the OS only runs on a specific peace of hardware and the hardware only runs the specific OS it has.

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Yah unlike Nokia and Intel, HP actually has their product on the Market.

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Amazing how long it took HP to announce/release several devices with WebOS since they acquired Palm...
Now compare that to Nokia and Maemo 5 / MeeGo...

Maemo 5 = 1 device
MeeGo = maybe none

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Full video of launch event:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VnjwG7Z8AM8

@H3llb0und: to be fair, I think hp just funded ongoing internal Palm projects and rebranded them as hp. But yeah, in the grand scheme of things, and considering how slow some of these bahemoth corporations move (and especially if you contrast them with Nokia), hp is pretty dang good.

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Is WebOS as geek-friendly as Maemo is used to be?
Is it possible to open a terminal, get root, write a shell script, install or remove packages from cli?
Is there X? Is it possible to port an open-source software to WebOS?

I know I can google all that, but there are so many friends here with deep knowledge in mobile IT, that I'm here to hope for a kind and informative answer ;)

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Not out of the box, but with homebrew, yes, pretty close it seems. They also have the second best community of all phones :)

Edit: wth do you mean with "used to be"? Maemo is as geek friendly as ever :P

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wow... the Veer is really amazing. This is the phone I could easily recommend to my girlfriend instead of buying an iphone. In fact I'd buy one myself, but I just need something with a bigger screen with higher resolution. But this thing is really amazing anyway.

webOS would be the only OS I'd like to have on my phone besides of Maemo or Meego at the moment. HP just has to release the proper hardware: landscape device with QWERTY, high resolution screen and high-end Chipset and nothing can hold me at Nokia.

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I'm surprised no one has noticed what the second image means:

*MOVING APPS FROM ONE DEVICE TO ANOTHER IN HOT*

Is this really true? have my dreams come true for once?

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Man... just look at how cool this thing is on video:

http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/09/h...irst-hands-on/

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Not sure what you meant by 'in hot', but they showed 'url passing by tapping' in yesterday's event. Nothing about moving/copying apps.

(yet?)

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Well, I meant moving an app in real time to another machine.

Anyway, it seems it's only sharing information rather than moving the app :S

"mi gozo en un pozo"

Regards

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IF Elop & Co. kills MeeGo (as far as Nokia is concerned at least) I may give WebOS another serious look. Seems I'll be left with 3 possible choices once I have to retire my N900:

1. WebOS.
The Good: Will be the closest thing to Maemo/MeeGo/real Linux actually available on a phone. Good OS with a supportive community. Nice UI I can't help but like. Hackable.
The Bad: Not open. Only offered on one company's hardware, which was one of the original reservations I had when switching to Maemo.

2. Android.
The Good: Lotsa apps and hardware to choose from. UI still kinda sucks, but better than by far now than it was on my G1. Hackable.
The Bad: UI still kinda sucks. Not truly open. Not really Linux. Been there, done that, don't miss it a bit. But probably worst of all is the Big Brother aka Google factor.

3. MeeGo.
The Good: Real, open Linux distro. Most capable and adaptable of any mobile OS. Base UI looks ok and a Maemo-style UI would rock. Possibility of availability on a variety of hardware.
The Bad: Nothing actually on the market, iffy future. Gotta wait and see and hope my N900 doesn't break before a suitable MeeGo device is available.

Tough situation...

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Remember this:

Maemo chief Ari Jaaksi leaved Nokia last year going to WebOS...
A webOS chief (dont remember name) did enter Nokia.

Now many thinks nokia goes WP7.

To mee more logical step for Nokia is this two decisions:

One dish Meego and use WebOS

or

Officially port Qt to WebOS and make HP abandon theyr development framework and go Meego :-D (more open platform)

Both cases looks intresting...

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I for one am excited about the tablet. I've played around with a friend's Pre2 and I really like the interface. Both webOS and Maemo are fantastic at multitasking, but I must say I like it a tab more in webOS than Maemo. Sliding programs up and away is much more fluid than having to click on tiny corner X's.

Hopefully Nokia will have something interesting to show us tomorrow at their event thingy..

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Who else will be jumping on WebOS after Maemo?

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I don't like the device design. If they come with a sexy slim 3.7" to 4" with keyboard then I'll take it.

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I might. Have already tried Android, don't like.
Ari Jaaksi being there, it mustn't be bad :o
Is there an emulator somewhere? I've never played with a webOS device.

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Would like to, would like to very much.

Just scared about possibility of jumping from one abandoned platform to one that might not have long future. I'll wait for a bit and see how HP's first WebOS devices sell.

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I probably will be jumping if **** happens, DrNokSnes already runs on a Pre... :D

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Me! I hadn't looked that much into it because I was waiting for the Meego to materialize. Now that I have it seems that webOS is not only nice looking, quite open and developer friendly, so I'm setting my sights in that direction. There seems to be a wealth of information at http://www.webos-internals.org/ and the freenet channel is #webos-internals.

It seems that the circle is closing. I started with PalmOS devices m100, Zire 71 and Zire 72, but switched to N800 when Palm stagnated. Now it's time to head back :) See you on the other side.

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WebOS is sure to have at least a few years ahead of it, because it was just released big. Even if it is scrapped later, the situations have then changed and the board looks different from today. It's the same thing as waiting for the latest and greatest device - there's always a better one around the corner :)

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Depends on battery life and price. As contrast to the n900, the veer looks really interesting.

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Seriously thinking of it myself.
If they produce something like the N900 I think they'll have a winner.

Don't like that tiny effort at all, looks too much like an old Samsung Slider or the S/E Xperia Mini. I want an N900 screen with full keypad.

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WebOS looks like the most attractive alternative atm, though it has only really appeared on my radar in the last day or two. If they add something with a 4" screen and hardware qwerty, then I'm in. :D

It looks like the 'Competitors' section will be the busiest of all soon.

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You can download the SDK here http://developer.palm.com/ http://developer.palm.com/index.php?...1850&Itemid=20

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I have played with Palm Pre - really liked the feel of the OS/UI. Great use of gestures. Nice looking and smooth. If it was not N900/Maemo5 I should have gone with Pre. I didn't like the hardware though - small screen(size/res), awful HW keyboard. Now I see HP Pre3 - looks promising.

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I like what I saw on the Veer video. What phone service providers are offering it, anyone know?

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Anybody know good WebOS forum/community/blog/website? Know more than enough about Android, but want to learn more about WebOS before I make the jump decision.

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Can someone help me port WebOS 3.0 from the Pre 3 to the HTC Desire Z.

Here's the similarities:
-Both on the same QSD MSM8 processors (HP is overclocked slightly)
-Both have same 512MB RAM
-Both have 800x480 displays
-Both have same display sizes (3.58" vs 3.7")
-Both have GSM + HSPA radios
-Both have physical keypads (though landscape vs portrait)
-Both have 5MP cameras with 720p capture
-Both have same battery sizes (1230 vs HTC's 1300mAh)
-Both have Wifi bgn, BT 2.1, aGPS, Accelarometre
-Both have microUSB
-Both have more similarities

I prefer the Desire Z's landscape style but really adore the WebOS 3.0

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lol... just compare this...

http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/11/h...ebrew-its-boo/

to Nokia's support. Gotta love HP...

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Hm, a one-off server donation (just the box mind you, not hosting, admin etc) vs paying for the entire maemo.org infrastructure (including this forum) for years?

I'll consider it if/when I see bugs.webos.org.

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I guess this is all part of the complains someone made about media like Engadget. All it takes from HP is a single server to make headlines. All it takes to Nokia is basically an elopcalypse :) The years of maemo.org will fall into the void.

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The Really Cool Idea would be :

WebOS + MeeGo = Linux + Qt4 + QML + QWrt + QtWebkit + Amazing UI = WIN

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someone should fork Qt because as soon as Microsoft buys Nokia they will killit.

My guess 2012

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just imagine for a moment, if webOS was available in the n900.