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xxxxts 2011-02-12 01:22

More OSes the better!
 
I will start off by saying I am not a fan of Windows Mobile 7, at all. But I am very excited that it hit the market.

This is pretty obvious to everyone but the more OSes we have running on stable hardware the better! More competition, more choice, the end results is a better product to whatever fits your needs.

WM7 seems a lot like a demo to me, but it might have potential down the road.

iOS really hasn't come that far, they have the iPhone, iPad, iPod Touch.

Android looks to be great, pretty flexible, Android is running in many phones, tablets, and even my TV has Android (Sony Google TV).

When Android was first released it was a neat platform, but is has grown by leaps and bounds very quickly. It is possible that might happen with WM7 (Microsoft has been wanting to do this for a while, look at what they tried to do with UMPC's)

I think the idea of iOS is going to be moving out soon and we will see a newer more "full computer like" version of Android moving in. And hopefully WM7 will compete, and I would love if Nokia joined the fight - but I am not holding my breath.

What do you all think?

m4r0v3r 2011-02-12 01:28

Re: More OSes the better!
 
I wouldn't mind trying the WM7 since am an open minded person, but many people already hate it simple because it's under the name of Microsoft...

qwazix 2011-02-12 01:29

Re: More OSes the better!
 
that wp7 is ios v1 with better looks. Come on even apple realized and implemented copy and paste...
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ericsson 2011-02-12 02:28

Re: More OSes the better!
 
If you read the press releases, you will see that they never mention Windows Phone 7, or WP7. They only say Windows Phone. This is certainly done on purpose.

Any way you see it, this is not a strategic move, it is a desperate maneuver to rescue Nokia from certain death. They may die anyway, but now they have a fighting chance. MeeGo and Symbian are both fine OS'es, but way to costly to maintain and develop both regarding money and time.

Qt may be excellent, but it doesn't help as long as the core OS'es are moving too slow.

Android is a death trap once ZTE and Huawei and God knows who else are getting up to speed for real.

It is a cry and shame, but it has happened. MeeGo, Symbian and Qt are excellent, but Nokia didn't manage to make it work nearly as efficient as needed. They almost broke their neck in the process, and may still die from the wounds.

I hope Nokia and MS will get some killer phones out there ASAP. Android and iPhone need the competition. Personally I don't like Android or iPhone, I would prefer MeeGo, but dead is dead

geneven 2011-02-12 02:43

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ericsson (Post 943544)
It is a cry and shame, but it has happened. MeeGo, Symbian and Qt are excellent, but Nokia didn't manage to make it work nearly as efficient as needed.

Not to embarrass anyone, just FYI:

In the US anyway, we say "crying shame", not "cry and shame". Good try, though.

vkv.raju 2011-02-12 02:46

Re: More OSes the better!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by m4r0v3r (Post 943512)
I wouldn't mind trying the WM7 since am an open minded person, but many people already hate it simple because it's under the name of Microsoft...

Please don't get it wrong. The reason is not solely because it is under Microsoft. It is mostly because it is not open enough for most of us. That means, we are not in favour of pre-installed bloatware.

Naterator 2011-02-12 02:49

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So how about a poll.. I set on up here.. Try to pass it around if you can so we get accurate counts.

http://areyouproud.com/


And no cheating i don't want to have to implement email verification..

rm42 2011-02-12 02:59

Re: More OSes the better!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Naterator (Post 943554)
So how about a poll.. I set on up here.. Try to pass it around if you can so we get accurate counts.

http://areyouproud.com/


And no cheating i don't want to have to implement email verification..

I can't remember a company that has partnered with Microsoft and come out the better for it.

ericsson 2011-02-12 03:02

Re: More OSes the better!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by geneven (Post 943549)
Not to embarrass anyone, just FYI:

In the US anyway, we say "crying shame", not "cry and shame". Good try, though.

Who cares, I'm not american and I don't live there, so I say cry and shame as much as I want :eek:

geneven 2011-02-12 03:05

Re: More OSes the better!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ericsson (Post 943560)
Who cares, I'm not american and I don't live there, so I say cry and shame as much as I want :eek:

I was trying to be helpful; if you don't want to learn, that's up to you.

mikecomputing 2011-02-12 03:23

Re: More OSes the better!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by xxxxts (Post 943502)
I will start off by saying I am not a fan of Windows Mobile 7, at all. But I am very excited that it hit the market.

This is pretty obvious to everyone but the more OSes we have running on stable hardware the better! More competition, more choice, the end results is a better product to whatever fits your needs.

WM7 seems a lot like a demo to me, but it might have potential down the road.

iOS really hasn't come that far, they have the iPhone, iPad, iPod Touch.

Android looks to be great, pretty flexible, Android is running in many phones, tablets, and even my TV has Android (Sony Google TV).

When Android was first released it was a neat platform, but is has grown by leaps and bounds very quickly. It is possible that might happen with WM7 (Microsoft has been wanting to do this for a while, look at what they tried to do with UMPC's)

I think the idea of iOS is going to be moving out soon and we will see a newer more "full computer like" version of Android moving in. And hopefully WM7 will compete, and I would love if Nokia joined the fight - but I am not holding my breath.

What do you all think?


I say only this:

Problem with Nokia go WP7 is that QT will get killed at the end when Microsoft buys Nokia!

And that will hurt OpenSOurce like hell and kill just what u say above "More OS:es the better"

uvatbc 2011-02-12 03:31

Re: More OSes the better!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mikecomputing (Post 943579)
Problem with Nokia go WP7 is that QT will get killed at the end when Microsoft buys Nokia!

Nope.

ericsson 2011-02-12 03:36

Re: More OSes the better!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by uvatbc (Post 943582)

But it will become irrelevant, and that is as good as dead.

uvatbc 2011-02-12 03:42

Re: More OSes the better!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ericsson (Post 943586)
But it will become irrelevant, and that is as good as dead.

I don't understand why it would become irrelevant.
QT was relevant before Maemo/Meego. QT continues to live on in Meego and KDE. What makes you predict that it is going to be irrelevant?

See also: QT-apps

Cue 2011-02-12 04:14

Re: More OSes the better!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by uvatbc (Post 943590)
I don't understand why it would become irrelevant.
QT was relevant before Maemo/Meego. QT continues to live on in Meego and KDE. What makes you predict that it is going to be irrelevant?

See also: QT-apps

maybe he meant irrelevant on smartphones? Don't know but I too don't mind more OSes. The problem here is it seems to be coming at a cost of less Meego resources/support.

Naterator 2011-02-12 04:30

Re: More OSes the better!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rm42 (Post 943557)
I can't remember a company that has partnered with Microsoft and come out the better for it.

I tend to agree with that one.

9000 2011-02-12 04:51

Re: More OSes the better!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by xxxxts (Post 943502)
I will start off by saying I am not a fan of Windows Mobile 7, at all. But I am very excited that it hit the market.

This is pretty obvious to everyone but the more OSes we have running on stable hardware the better! More competition, more choice, the end results is a better product to whatever fits your needs.

WM7 seems a lot like a demo to me, but it might have potential down the road.

iOS really hasn't come that far, they have the iPhone, iPad, iPod Touch.

Android looks to be great, pretty flexible, Android is running in many phones, tablets, and even my TV has Android (Sony Google TV).

When Android was first released it was a neat platform, but is has grown by leaps and bounds very quickly. It is possible that might happen with WM7 (Microsoft has been wanting to do this for a while, look at what they tried to do with UMPC's)

I think the idea of iOS is going to be moving out soon and we will see a newer more "full computer like" version of Android moving in. And hopefully WM7 will compete, and I would love if Nokia joined the fight - but I am not holding my breath.

What do you all think?

People feel sad and bad over the alliance is that Nokia has turned away from open to close platform, and inevitably the resource that could be used on MeeGo development would be diverted to WP7 and its ecosystem's development.

I've some drawbacks on WP7, but I still agree with you that more choices is better. However, we don't expect N900's decedent that is the entire focus of a corporation and the industry as a whole. That's what Elop has done that upset majority of people here and Nokia's stockholders.

Kangal 2011-02-12 07:42

Re: More OSes the better!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by geneven (Post 943549)
Not to embarrass anyone, just FYI:

In the US anyway, we say "crying shame", not "cry and shame". Good try, though.

Or the correct way "cry in shame", cause Aussies are *always* correct!

Dave999 2011-02-12 07:46

Re: More OSes the better!
 
I dont see se how you get more OSes by kicking out meego and possible even symbian (in th long run) and replace this with a OS that several other vendors already use.

In my book we get fewer OSes, fewer choices.

That is bad, mkey!


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