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mustafaupk 2011-02-12 21:49
Worth buying the nokia n900 now?
 
Hello folks,
I have been looking keenly at the recent developments and was wondering if it would be a dumb idea to buy an n900 now since Meego is most likely dead and Maemo has been abandoned? I am a linux user and would love to have a device like the n900 with me at all times but with the recent news I'm not sure? What says you..?

laasonen 2011-02-12 21:58
Re: Worth buying the nokia n900 now?
 
According to Nokia's announcement they are going to continue developing Meego and there is also Intel.

At least I'm going to keep on developing for N900 :)

vi_ 2011-02-12 22:00
Re: Worth buying the nokia n900 now?
 
are you mad? buy one immediatley! they are about to become an assload rarer. ****it, buy 2, I am!

RFS-81 2011-02-12 22:00
Re: Worth buying the nokia n900 now?
 
Sounds like it would be the optimal device for you.
Maemo was screwed already before these news, so its nothing to worry about :)

king Ralphred 2011-02-12 22:12
Re: Worth buying the nokia n900 now?
 
Thinking about buying a spare myself. There's still nothing like it.

geekgirl74 2011-02-12 22:18
Re: Worth buying the nokia n900 now?
 
Depends on what you're planning to do with it... if you can live with the fact that there are less and less new apps coming to it, then maybe. It's a nice toy to have, that's sure.

I've bought mine only 3 months ago and I still think it was (and is) worth the money. On the other hand I miss some apps like an easy-to-use location based reminder program. Plus I'd like to have a bigger software choice.

But right now there isn't any single phone on the market that I'd call a true alternative for me, and I know this won't change that fast - even with all the shiny dual-core mobiles waiting to be released. In the last 3 months I've become used to the possibility of being able to fit nearly everything to my needs. And thanks to the community at least important fixes and improvements should be released for a while.

My story with the N900 is a story of love and hate, but the love is still stronger than the hate :) I'd clearly recommend it if you are aware of the fact, that there is much to discover, but of course with limitations...

Though I've sworn to not buy another Nokia phone in the future, I'd make an exception for a replacement N900 if mine suddenly died...

EDIT: in short this means: BUY IT !! :D

HellFlyer 2011-02-12 22:21
Re: Worth buying the nokia n900 now?
 
NO :D I mean YES , I mean NO :P

SAABoy 2011-02-12 22:34
Re: Worth buying the nokia n900 now?
 
Id say this is a better time than ever... Its really a unique device, and i think its fair to say we arent gonna get another like it for a long time, maybe never from Nokia. Maybe someone from the forums with computer hardware quality control, ahem former nokia employee ahem, will start a service for repairing these n900s so we can keep them forever :D

gerbick 2011-02-12 22:37
Re: Worth buying the nokia n900 now?
 
Hell yes. Buy three.

Copernicus 2011-02-12 22:38
Re: Worth buying the nokia n900 now?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by mustafaupk (Post 944424)
I am a linux user and would love to have a device like the n900 with me at all times but with the recent news I'm not sure?
Oh, heck yeah. If you want to run all your Linux apps on a cell-phone sized device, particularly if you don't want to jailbreak/root/otherwise compromise the device to do it, this is the best thing out there. Now that Nokia is becoming a Microsoft subsidiary, it may be the only one for years to come as well.

It's a beautiful little device.

deyons 2011-02-12 22:44
Re: Worth buying the nokia n900 now?
 
I just bought my second from ebay from some guy in Texas listed as used but it was mint as fuq for $285. Amazon got them NEW for $350ish

SAABoy 2011-02-12 22:47
Re: Worth buying the nokia n900 now?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Copernicus (Post 944459)
Oh, heck yeah. If you want to run all your Linux apps on a cell-phone sized device, particularly if you don't want to jailbreak/root/otherwise compromise the device to do it, this is the best thing out there. Now that Nokia is becoming a Microsoft subsidiary, it may be the only one for years to come as well.

It's a beautiful little device.
run all linux apps? I ran ubuntu for the first time 2 days ago... are there apps, like desktop widgets or something, that you run on a debian distro, that you can run on the n900?

Mentalist Traceur 2011-02-12 22:51
Re: Worth buying the nokia n900 now?
 
If you wanted the N900 before this, nothing has changed. Nokia's support has been decried as completely ditched/abandoned/cancelled for this device like... 3-4 times in massive waves, already. It is not less supported now that it was before this announcement. Support has slowly been tapering off for a long time not, but the bottom line is, if you already know the N900 is for you, you haven't lost anything with this announcement. Other than maybe a bit less Qt apps available in the same time window in the future. But there's very little actually 'needed' on the N900 nowadays, that isn't being written for it, or hasn't been already. 'Course, depends on who you ask, but my point still stands - if you're sure you'll like the N900 already, it won't be any less good at this point, and the potential still untapped is entirely a community related thing, not a Nokia-support dependent thing.

gazza_d 2011-02-12 22:52
Re: Worth buying the nokia n900 now?
 
in another thread tonight, Jaffa described the N900 as a "Concorde moment". which is a very apt analogy.

Since the N900 was announced, there has been nothing released or announced which comes close to the overall feature set.

It is a unique machine. if you can live with its quirks, and the fact that it is effectively only community supported, then yea get one.

Elfforkusu 2011-02-12 23:16
Re: Worth buying the nokia n900 now?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by gazza_d (Post 944478)
in another thread tonight, Jaffa described the N900 as a "Concorde moment". which is a very apt analogy.

Since the N900 was announced, there has been nothing released or announced which comes close to the overall feature set.

It is a unique machine. if you can live with its quirks, and the fact that it is effectively only community supported, then yea get one.
I'd agree with this.

Likewise if Nokia actually releases their Meego phone before quietly scuttling the project. I'll buy it with the knowledge that community support is all I'll be getting -- luckily, it's been enough to get by with the N900.

Copernicus 2011-02-12 23:23
Re: Worth buying the nokia n900 now?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by SAABoy (Post 944471)
run all linux apps? I ran ubuntu for the first time 2 days ago... are there apps, like desktop widgets or something, that you run on a debian distro, that you can run on the n900?
Well, ok, I do tend to favor console apps over guis. :) But then, I started out using Linux back before there was a Gnome or a KDE. I guess I'm just kinda happy I can carry around a terminal emulator in my pocket now. :)

bingomion 2011-02-12 23:27
Re: Worth buying the nokia n900 now?
 
Not sure what's out there these days.. but if there's nothing better H/W wise then Yes get it!

bzbnd 2011-02-12 23:37
Re: Worth buying the nokia n900 now?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by mustafaupk (Post 944424)
hello folks,
i have been looking keenly at the recent developments and was wondering if it would be a dumb idea to buy an n900 now since meego is most likely dead and maemo has been abandoned? I am a linux user and would love to have a device like the n900 with me at all times but with the recent news i'm not sure? What says you..?
no .

xopher 2011-02-12 23:45
Re: Worth buying the nokia n900 now?
 
You cannot have my N900, get your own!

m_sparks 2011-02-12 23:50
Re: Worth buying the nokia n900 now?
 
well, for what it's worth, i'm returning to the n900 after a year with the Droid X.
why? skype video calling. i haven't found any other non iphone mobile that will do this yet.
I say "DO IT!"

Mara 2011-02-12 23:51
Re: Worth buying the nokia n900 now?
 
Lot of people must think the same thing...

In Amazon top sellers (unlocked phones) N900 is at spot 15.

For perspective, first WP7 phone is at spot 68.

geneven 2011-02-12 23:53
Re: Worth buying the nokia n900 now?
 
My gut feeling is that a flood of cheap N900s is going to hit the market soon. Of course, my gut is sometimes wrong.

Kajko 2011-02-13 01:32
Re: Worth buying the nokia n900 now?
 
To OP: Absolutely NOT! It's an utter piece of junk that has been abandoned by its' manufacturer. Forget it, there are MANY better options out there.

By the way, the so-called support by the "community" is the biggest hoax in the history of mobile industry. Unless you're interested in half finished "apps" written by bored Linux fanatics.

Raif 2011-02-13 01:42
Re: Worth buying the nokia n900 now?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kajko (Post 944594)
To OP: Absolutely NOT! It's an utter piece of junk that has been abandoned by its' manufacturer. Forget it, there are MANY better options out there.

By the way, the so-called support by the "community" is the biggest hoax in the history of mobile industry. Unless you're interested in half finished "apps" written by bored Linux fanatics.
Thats not what you said here!!!!!!!!

Kajko
07-24-10 , 02:10 AM
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As long as it works. I've said it before and I will say it again: the N900 is the best mobile device I have ever owned (and the list is long). The N900's a keeper for me.

Kajko 2011-02-13 01:44
Re: Worth buying the nokia n900 now?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Raif (Post 944601)
Thats not what you said here!!!!!!!!

07-24-10 , 02:10 AM
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As long as it works. I've said it before and I will say it again: the N900 is the best mobile device I have ever owned (and the list is long). The N900's a keeper for me.
I wrote that when I was under the euphoria of owning a new device. I changed my mind. That happens in life.

N900=JUNK

laasonen 2011-02-13 01:55
Re: Worth buying the nokia n900 now?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kajko (Post 944594)
To OP: Absolutely NOT! It's an utter piece of junk that has been abandoned by its' manufacturer. Forget it, there are MANY better options out there.

By the way, the so-called support by the "community" is the biggest hoax in the history of mobile industry. Unless you're interested in half finished "apps" written by bored Linux fanatics.
Well, there are some great applications what you can't find from any another mobile platform such as URPO, hostmode(-gui), OpenOffice.org, fcamera, xchat, faircrack, ATI85, frontview,..

And is there another mobile platform what can run applications from 2 another mobile platforms (preenv and Alien Dalvik)?

Mentalist Traceur 2011-02-13 02:08
Re: Worth buying the nokia n900 now?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kajko (Post 944603)
I wrote that when I was under the euphoria of owning a new device. I changed my mind. That happens in life.

N900=JUNK
When you can find me a phone that can do even half of the things that this phone can, let me know.

Or, at the very least, I'll settle for one that does have the limitations all the popular OSs have now.

On a slightly more personal note, I have a feeling if you paid attention to your thoughts more, you'd find that you wrote what you just wrote in this thread under the anger and frustration of having one or two bugs and the latest Nokia announcements.

Frustration happens in life too. Either way, if your opinions vary so wildly based on mood, you should probably step back and wonder how well grounded those opinions are to begin with.

Kajko 2011-02-13 02:10
Re: Worth buying the nokia n900 now?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by laasonen (Post 944609)
Well, there are some great applications what you can't find from any another mobile platform such as URPO, hostmode(-gui), OpenOffice.org, fcamera, xchat, faircrack, ATI85, frontview,..

And is there another mobile platform what can run applications from 2 another mobile platforms (preenv and Alien Dalvik)?
Just because you CAN doesn't mean you SHOULD. Majority of people don't give a rat's *** about some obscure programs for the geeks.

extendedping 2011-02-13 02:13
Re: Worth buying the nokia n900 now?
 
I have full bash shell running, can learn python or perl directly on the phone, have mapped keyboard and extra symbols in terminal to things I need to learn/use linux, and have fedora running in chroot on sd which enables me to practice redhat stuff such as apache in a safe environment.

If you really want linux in your pocket I am afraid you do not have that many choices.

In a nutshell I have 0 respect for Nokia now but love the device and this community is the best.

Kajko 2011-02-13 02:13
Re: Worth buying the nokia n900 now?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mentalist Traceur (Post 944612)
When you can find me a phone that can do even half of the things that this phone can, let me know.

Or, at the very least, I'll settle for one that does have the limitations all the popular OSs have now.

On a slightly more personal note, I have a feeling if you paid attention to your thoughts more, you'd find that you wrote what you just wrote in this thread under the anger and frustration of having one or two bugs and the latest Nokia announcements.

Frustration happens in life too. Either way, if your opinions vary so wildly based on mood, you should probably step back and wonder how well grounded those opinions are to begin with.
Trust me my friend: I could not care less about Nokia announcements. But I do think it's good for them to try something different. Symbian and to a lesser extent Maemo/Meego have been driving Nokia to its' grave.

What are the special things that N900 can do? Like I said before: just because you CAN doesn't mean you SHOULD.

Benson 2011-02-13 02:14
Re: Worth buying the nokia n900 now?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Copernicus (Post 944459)
Oh, heck yeah. If you want to run all your Linux apps on a cell-phone sized device, particularly if you don't want to jailbreak/root/otherwise compromise the device to do it, this is the best thing out there. Now that Nokia is becoming a Microsoft subsidiary, it may be the only one for years to come as well.

It's a beautiful little device.
I don't really disagree at all, but...

He didn't exactly say "cell-phone sized" -- if he's cool with a bit bigger, and doesn't want phone functionality built-in (particularly since it's T-mobile only for 3G in the USA), the Open Pandora's certainly a worthy choice.

To me, those are the only two viable pocketable UNIX options at present, but there's no general merit of one over the other -- it's all a question of which form-factor and connectivity choices suit.

gerbick 2011-02-13 02:28
Re: Worth buying the nokia n900 now?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mentalist Traceur (Post 944612)
When you can find me a phone that can do even half of the things that this phone can, let me know.
That's a slippery slope and a troll would just run with that. For what it is worth, I've all but replaced my N900 with my custom firmware and recently (and rapidly) updated apps on my Android phone.

Only forward facing camera using Skype video calls is the one thing lacking really. The integrated IM treatment was great too, but I can run Nimbuzz all day in the background.

I also don't miss the fact that I don't have to worry about Flash 10.1 any longer. I still have a terminal, SSH... I've deployed files from my sd card to my servers, I've edited files via QuickOffice without really losing my interface or installing EasyDebian.

I've not had to deal with rootfs issues, RAM issues, nor a phone call coming in and risking the rotation issue. I've overclocked my phone to 1280mhz, I have 338mb of RAM allocated for my use and so far, I've found a couple of drawing programs that work very well with my oStylus, a capacitive stylus.

My transition to Android has been pretty effortless and I don't miss much of what the N900 does... and doesn't do.

Browsing isn't the same though. I'll admit that. But I can't say that I miss my N900 wholly.

Especially since it never gave me 3G speeds.

windows7 2011-02-13 02:28
Re: Worth buying the nokia n900 now?
 
you can buy mine :)

windows7 2011-02-13 02:36
Re: Worth buying the nokia n900 now?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by geekgirl74 (Post 944444)
Depends on what you're planning to do with it... if you can live with the fact that there are less and less new apps coming to it, then maybe. It's a nice toy to have, that's sure.

I've bought mine only 3 months ago and I still think it was (and is) worth the money. On the other hand I miss some apps like an easy-to-use location based reminder program. Plus I'd like to have a bigger software choice.

But right now there isn't any single phone on the market that I'd call a true alternative for me, and I know this won't change that fast - even with all the shiny dual-core mobiles waiting to be released. In the last 3 months I've become used to the possibility of being able to fit nearly everything to my needs. And thanks to the community at least important fixes and improvements should be released for a while.

My story with the N900 is a story of love and hate, but the love is still stronger than the hate :) I'd clearly recommend it if you are aware of the fact, that there is much to discover, but of course with limitations...

Though I've sworn to not buy another Nokia phone in the future, I'd make an exception for a replacement N900 if mine suddenly died...

EDIT: in short this means: BUY IT !! :D
Android is where all the geek stuff is happening, maemo/meego does not get anywhere near some of geek android software, this also includes commercial software vendors producing decent apps, hardware wise no phone out is currently comparable with the n900, only the lg optimus X2 and motorola atriz maybe superior devices in some areas but inferior in other areas.

Copernicus 2011-02-13 03:18
Re: Worth buying the nokia n900 now?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Benson (Post 944621)
He didn't exactly say "cell-phone sized" -- if he's cool with a bit bigger, and doesn't want phone functionality built-in (particularly since it's T-mobile only for 3G in the USA), the Open Pandora's certainly a worthy choice.
Ok, yeah, I admit the Open Pandora is a very cool little device. But the focus on being a gaming platform kind of throws me off; I don't use my N900 for gaming at all... (Besides, is it even possible to get one? It sounds like they are only being manufactured in tiny batches.)

I'd love to see a more general-purpose version of the Open Pandora, maybe something more like the N810. :)

JamesBond@ge 2011-02-13 03:24
Re: Worth buying the nokia n900 now?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by vi_ (Post 944432)
are you mad? buy one immediatley! they are about to become an assload rarer. ****it, buy 2, I am!
Assload? What an odd turn of phrase.

Back on subject - Yes, they are going to become quite rare soon.

sebas 2011-02-13 03:24
Re: Worth buying the nokia n900 now?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by SAABoy (Post 944471)
run all linux apps? I ran ubuntu for the first time 2 days ago... are there apps, like desktop widgets or something, that you run on a debian distro, that you can run on the n900?
Sure:
  • lybniz
  • aircrack-ng
  • bash
  • boswars
  • build-essential
  • bzip2
  • gnuplot
  • gcc
  • grsync
  • kmplayer
  • macchanger
  • mc
  • mplayer
  • nmap
  • octave
  • openssh
  • openvpn
  • perl
  • php
  • python
  • rsync
  • sed
  • tar
  • tecnoballz
  • tor
  • vim
  • vncviewer
  • widelands
  • xournal

:D

Saludos,
Sebas.

JamesBond@ge 2011-02-13 03:28
Re: Worth buying the nokia n900 now?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by gerbick (Post 944458)
Hell yes. Buy three.
Haha! You clown. But I love you for it. In a manly way I mean. You know......ahem.

I'll get my coat ---->

JamesBond@ge 2011-02-13 03:31
Re: Worth buying the nokia n900 now?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by deyons (Post 944469)
I just bought my second from ebay from some guy in Texas listed as used but it was mint as fuq for $285. Amazon got them NEW for $350ish
That was Texrat who sold you that. That ratbag also failed to tell you that he bodged the USB Port back in with a pin after it fell out. Sorry about that bad news.

cm6 2011-02-13 03:34
Re: Worth buying the nokia n900 now?
 
Bought one 2 weeks ago. Despite all the bugs & limitations, it's worth it. Massively powerful. I doubt we'll ever see such a phone again... Maybe the N9. Wait for a few days to see if it's announced...

iOS/Android/WP7/WebOS - apps platform.
Maemo - computing platform.

;)


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