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natedog400 2011-02-14 11:31

Whats the next best thing instead of a reflash?
 
So i haven't learned how to flash my n900 yet, hopfully my massive geeky boffin mate will figure it out n show me but untill then all i can do is clean it up a bit. Even if i knew how i can't because i use windows 7? Anyway... So what is the next best thing? Idealy i want a fresh OS as i've a custom kernel and i think over the last 6 months of typing commands that i don't fully understand, installing, uninstalling has had annoying effects. One to do with no text alerts but anyway. If i was to connect to my pc via pc suit and go for reinstall software is that the next best thing? And will the fact that i have enhanced power kernel installed be a problem? Or will the reinstall just overwtite to stock kernel. Basically i just want to start again pain free and hopefully avoid x-term or full flash because i've tried once before and ended up with no phone for 3 weeks. I know in the settings we have "restore original settings" and "clear device" But i'm sure it won't fix my bugs.

Thanks in advance
Nath

Hootenholler 2011-02-14 11:33

Re: Whats the next best thing instead of a reflash?
 
A new phone.

natedog400 2011-02-14 12:03

Re: Whats the next best thing instead of a reflash?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hootenholler (Post 945983)
A new phone.

Arn't you a nob

natedog400 2011-02-14 12:04

Re: Whats the next best thing instead of a reflash?
 
Some real advice please :)

m4r0v3r 2011-02-14 12:06

Re: Whats the next best thing instead of a reflash?
 
it just removes contacts and personal information. Nothing compares to a reflash.

natedog400 2011-02-14 12:11

Re: Whats the next best thing instead of a reflash?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by m4r0v3r (Post 946005)
it just removes contacts and personal information. Nothing compares to a reflash.

I know nothing compares but i just can't do it yet?

abill_uk 2011-02-14 12:16

Re: Whats the next best thing instead of a reflash?
 
Only one thing you can do looking at what you have been doing in your explanation and that is am afraid to say a complete re-flash, it is not so hard you know ... just follow the well written guidelines on this forum and you wil save yourself a hell of a lot of time and bother. good luck.

retsaw 2011-02-14 12:38

Re: Whats the next best thing instead of a reflash?
 
When you remove packages make sure you uninstall them from the command line using "apt-get purge <packagename>" this will remove the configuration files along with the package. After that it depends somewhat on how well behaved the packages were, packages can run scripts on installation and removal which can make arbitrary changes to the system if necessary, and if badly written they may not clean themselves up properly when you remove the package. You can also use "apt-get install <packagename> --reinstall" to reinstall any packages whose files you think may have got messed up or corrupted.

It is possible to get back to a clean state without reflashing, but depending on the state of your current install it can take quite a bit of in-depth knowledge. Quite honestly flashing is easier.

If your having problems with flashing because of Windows 7, then grab yourself a spare 1GB+ USB stick, a copy of unetbootin and use unetbootin to install a version of ubuntu to your USB stick. Also check out the flashing guide and download the flasher deb and the rootfs image (and optionally the eMMC image) and save them to your USB drive just in case you can't get networking when you boot the USB stick. I've just noticed this is quite similar to option 4 of what you can do if you have the 64-bit version of Windows 7. There are other options for flashing in this situation in the wiki which you could also use.

natedog400 2011-02-14 12:47

Re: Whats the next best thing instead of a reflash?
 
I wish i understood all that :D I got most of it, i can't remember what i've installed in the past so getting rid of any changes that may have been made probably means one thing... reflash?? Oh well. I spent about 3 nights in a row trying to do it last time and it gave me a big headache? I'll have another crack at it me thinks. Thanks for the advice my friend. If only i was a bit brainier :D

natedog400 2011-02-16 21:04

Re: Whats the next best thing instead of a reflash?
 
Untill i figure out how to flash my phone can someone tell me if its safe to just reinstall software via software updater on pc suit whilst i have enhanced power kernel installed? Will it just replace back to stock kernel? Its worth a shot n may fix the problem i have? I know its not as good as a full flash but if its the next best thing i've gotta try it.
Thanks

richwhite 2011-02-16 22:00

Re: Whats the next best thing instead of a reflash?
 
You can flash on win7, i have that OS and i've flashed a bunch of times (32bit mind, i'm now on 64 bit and haven't yet tried flashing)

Anyway, flashing is as simple as downloading the program and running it. Takes less than 5 minutes. Download the stuff, rename the OS image to 'os.bin' and the emmc to 'emmc.bin' and then use cmd on windows to direct it to the file location, and it does it by itself. This is the best time to learn, when you actually need to do it. If you don't do it now, why on earth would you ever learn in the future?

Flashing is more than just installing the software, it completely wipes the entire device.

Anyway if you don't want to do it, i guess uninstall the custom kernel from the menu (NOT the app manager!) and then try NSU. Is it safe? Sure, the worst that'll happen is you **** it up and need to flash it, which you need to do anyway.

natedog400 2011-02-17 22:27

Re: Whats the next best thing instead of a reflash?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by richwhite (Post 948404)
You can flash on win7, i have that OS and i've flashed a bunch of times (32bit mind, i'm now on 64 bit and haven't yet tried flashing)

Anyway, flashing is as simple as downloading the program and running it. Takes less than 5 minutes. Download the stuff, rename the OS image to 'os.bin' and the emmc to 'emmc.bin' and then use cmd on windows to direct it to the file location, and it does it by itself. This is the best time to learn, when you actually need to do it. If you don't do it now, why on earth would you ever learn in the future?

Flashing is more than just installing the software, it completely wipes the entire device.

Anyway if you don't want to do it, i guess uninstall the custom kernel from the menu (NOT the app manager!) and then try NSU. Is it safe? Sure, the worst that'll happen is you **** it up and need to flash it, which you need to do anyway.

I'm 64bit tho? and i don't know anyone who uses xp or has a 32bit os?? Anyhoo, its all a bit long winded just to get the dam thing back to it factory state :D Love it hate it? Hate it love it?? I JUST DON'T KNOW!!!! Love it :)

dtergens 2011-02-17 22:43

Re: Whats the next best thing instead of a reflash?
 
Quote:

Whats the next best thing instead of a reflash?
Do it for free in a Nokia Care Center ?

natedog400 2011-02-23 15:28

Re: Whats the next best thing instead of a reflash?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dtergens (Post 949264)
Do it for free in a Nokia Care Center ?

I know, i've done it before but they had my phone for 3 weeks man??

funkmunk 2011-02-23 18:57

Re: Whats the next best thing instead of a reflash?
 
Im on 64bit Windows 7 too..I downloaded Microsoft XP Mode from the microsoft site and reflash my phone without a problem..

Works flawlessly every time i screw up bigtime...


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