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ammyt 2011-02-14 16:29
(Smasung Galaxy S II) VS (Motorola Atrix RELEASED!)
 
We're talking about REVOLUTION here! (!=WOW!)
A Docking station, Webtop! Dual-cored A9 processor TEGRA II Chipset!, an edgy super shmexy qHD resolution display, fingerprint security what da hell! Awesome 5MP 720p video recording + 1080p upgrade soon! An unbelievable $200 price? OH MY GOD!
VS
An 8MP 1080p capable camera, bigger super bright Amoled screen, USB OTG, dual core processor + a fu*king QUAD CORED GPU, ORION Chipset! WTF!
What do you folks think? Aaaaaaaah, technology keeps stunnning us. These are really HOT pieces of technology!

cenwesi 2011-02-14 22:02
Re: Smasung Galaxy S II, Moto Atrix, LG Optimus 3D, very tempting!
 
The question is will either manufacturer REALLY get the updates those phone need when Cupcake comes out or honeycomb for phones comes out. Both phones are tempting but i think i will stick with Googles own phone "Nexus S"

julianrome 2011-02-14 22:27
Re: Smasung Galaxy S II, Moto Atrix, LG Optimus 3D, very tempting!
 
I have 3 nokia phones, n96,n97, n900 I want to buy the new nokia N8 but I dont think is a good idea, for me is time to move. I love my n900 but I want a better phone whit high speed, 4G, dualcore!! at 1.2 ghz. I'm sorry nokia but I wait 1 year to upgrade my phone a Nokia phone! but right now are better phones. sorryyyy but my incometax are coming and I need to buy a new phone. PLEASE SOMEBODY HELP ME TO THINK WHAT IS BETTER.

H3llb0und 2011-02-14 22:34
Re: Smasung Galaxy S II, Moto Atrix, LG Optimus 3D, very tempting!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by cenwesi (Post 946523)
The question is will either manufacturer REALLY get the updates those phone need when Cupcake comes out or honeycomb for phones comes out. Both phones are tempting but i think i will stick with Googles own phone "Nexus S"
Why?
I have the same Android version available for the Nexus S running on my HTC Desire HD with a few more tweaks :D

You just need to look around :cool:

atilla 2011-02-14 22:35
Re: Smasung Galaxy S II, Moto Atrix, LG Optimus 3D, very tempting!
 
the galaxy s was a such hit.and the galaxy 2 specs are really insane.
i will definetly buy one.
don't get why anyone is crying about not getting updates on samsung.there are several custom roms availabe and a one click rooting app too.
whats the difference in downloading rootsh from the repos or downloading a one-click rooting app from the market?

gibsonus 2011-02-14 22:43
Re: Smasung Galaxy S II, Moto Atrix, LG Optimus 3D, very tempting!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by cenwesi (Post 946523)
The question is will either manufacturer REALLY get the updates those phone need when Cupcake comes out or honeycomb for phones comes out. Both phones are tempting but i think i will stick with Googles own phone "Nexus S"
I traded from the N900 to Galaxy S - I miss nokia phones and always want a nice Nokia with massive memory and a hard keyboard and maybe a tilt screen. But... they have nothing. Shame.

The Galaxy S is great if you don't mind a touch screen only. As for software updates, I waited less time for Froyo than I did for the 3rd N900 update. Also Darky's ROM is amazing. I mean Samsung should emloy that guy.

The resources etc... on XDA dev are great too with a good choice of roms and tutorials.

Having said all that, I would be back at nokia if they upped their cpu's etc... and had a nice tilt screen phone with a decent OS. No N9 for me unless I can run Android apps on it or port another OS :(

ammyt 2011-02-16 13:53
Re: Smasung Galaxy S II, Moto Atrix, LG Optimus 3D, very tempting!
 
I see the Moto Milestone has some custom roms loaded on, the ATRIX will probably get ones also although I heard somwhere that Motorola locked bootloaders in order for consumers not to flash a custom rom, am I right?

chase15 2011-02-16 14:02
Re: Smasung Galaxy S II, Moto Atrix, LG Optimus 3D, very tempting!
 
just got my SGS I... i'll surely get SGS II coz its specs is really insane.. AMOLED display is epic...

ammyt 2011-02-16 14:07
Re: Smasung Galaxy S II, Moto Atrix, LG Optimus 3D, very tempting!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by chase15 (Post 947985)
just got my SGS I... i'll surely get SGS II coz its specs is really insane.. AMOLED display is epic...
Yes, but the ATRIX packs greater number of pixels in a smaller display, which is better!

chase15 2011-02-16 14:11
Re: Smasung Galaxy S II, Moto Atrix, LG Optimus 3D, very tempting!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ammyt (Post 947991)
Yes, but the ATRIX packs greater number of pixels in a smaller display, which is better!
yep.. ATRIX is pretty cool too.. i like the docking thingy of it..

ammyt 2011-02-16 14:27
Re: Smasung Galaxy S II, Moto Atrix, LG Optimus 3D, very tempting!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by chase15 (Post 947993)
yep.. ATRIX is pretty cool too.. i like the docking thingy of it..
If it was proven to get custom roms, it sure will be my next device.

ammyt 2011-02-17 09:10
Re: Smasung Galaxy S II, Moto Atrix, LG Optimus 3D, very tempting!
 
The Motorola ATRIX uses the Tegra 2 chip while the Galaxy S II uses the Orion chipset. In addition, the S II packs a quad core GPU which delivers more than the ATRIX's Tegra GPU. It is a one nasty competition over here...

gruik 2011-02-17 09:19
Re: Smasung Galaxy S II, Moto Atrix, LG Optimus 3D, very tempting!
 
I'm really interested with this S2! It have amazing features. I hope they will make the same S2 with a keyboard and sell it in Europe!

rainmaster 2011-02-17 09:47
Re: Smasung Galaxy S II, Moto Atrix, LG Optimus 3D, very tempting!
 
the S2 seems the better choice....

eikido 2011-02-17 09:50
Re: Smasung Galaxy S II, Moto Atrix, LG Optimus 3D, very tempting!
 
The resolution on the new phones are unacceptable today except for the ATRIX 4G. Learn from Apple damnit!

ammyt 2011-02-17 10:02
Re: Smasung Galaxy S II, Moto Atrix, LG Optimus 3D, very tempting!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by eikido (Post 948767)
The resolution on the new phones are unacceptable today except for the ATRIX 4G. Learn from Apple damnit!
Yes, indeed. I think I made my choice. Both of them are great pieces of technology, and what I will buy will depend on the price, I will buy the cheaper. (I hope the ATRIX will be the cheaper :))

ammyt 2011-02-17 10:07
Re: Smasung Galaxy S II, Moto Atrix, LG Optimus 3D, very tempting!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by rainmaster (Post 948763)
the S2 seems the better choice....
The ATRIX's docking station is just too good to be ignored!

eikido 2011-02-17 10:07
Re: Smasung Galaxy S II, Moto Atrix, LG Optimus 3D, very tempting!
 
ATRIX 4 uses a pentile matrix AMOLED (?) which means in practice, its less than 960x540.

ammyt 2011-02-17 10:11
Re: Smasung Galaxy S II, Moto Atrix, LG Optimus 3D, very tempting!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by eikido (Post 948782)
ATRIX 4 uses a pentile matrix (?) which means in practice, its less than 960x540.
Motorola claims that this is a qHD display even though it is less than 960x540 in practice, but it is still a brilliant high resolution display. I just hope it'll get some custom roms, Motorola really sucked when they decided to lock bootloaders.

eikido 2011-02-17 10:15
Re: Smasung Galaxy S II, Moto Atrix, LG Optimus 3D, very tempting!
 
if its locked, i won't even consider it.
And i want a LTE (4G) phone, which it is.
We don't have any 4G data plans for mobile subscriptions in Sweden yet, but i hope we'll get any time soon. We will have a ~99% coverage in Sweden by the end of 2012 by tele2 and telenor.

ammyt 2011-02-17 10:21
Re: Smasung Galaxy S II, Moto Atrix, LG Optimus 3D, very tempting!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by eikido (Post 948788)
if its locked, i won't even consider it.
And i want a LTE (4G) phone, which it is.
We don't have any 4G data plans for mobile subscriptions in Sweden yet, but i hope we'll get any time soon. We will have a ~99% coverage in Sweden by the end of 2012 by tele2 and telenor.
I don't even care if it calls, lol. I do not use sim cards, gsm, data plans, 3g, and I don't even call anybody! I do not actually use smartphones as phones already...

ammyt 2011-02-23 16:12
Re: (Smasung Galaxy S II) VS (Motorola Atrix RELEASED!)
 
The ATRIX got me, it's settled folks, at this price I sure am getting one of those stunning ATRIXes, (AT&T, aaarrrggghhh)

cfh11 2011-02-23 19:21
Re: Smasung Galaxy S II, Moto Atrix, LG Optimus 3D, very tempting!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ammyt (Post 948781)
The ATRIX's docking station is just too good to be ignored!
Except that it costs $500. Doesn't really appear to be that great either:

http://www.engadget.com/motorola/atrix-4g-review/

The handset itself looks nice, but I wouldn't waste money on the dock.

ammyt 2011-02-23 19:28
Re: Smasung Galaxy S II, Moto Atrix, LG Optimus 3D, very tempting!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by cfh11 (Post 953912)
Except that it costs $500. Doesn't really appear to be that great either:

http://www.engadget.com/motorola/atrix-4g-review/

The handset itself looks nice, but I wouldn't waste money on the dock.
500 USD doesn't seems bad, does it? My N900 passed out, I think it is time for the big move.

atilla 2011-02-23 20:00
Re: (Smasung Galaxy S II) VS (Motorola Atrix RELEASED!)
 
i'm still waiting for the galaxy s2 ;)
no point for having a docking station if you have a hdmi out and a pc suite(except nokia ones)

cfh11 2011-02-23 22:46
Re: Smasung Galaxy S II, Moto Atrix, LG Optimus 3D, very tempting!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ammyt (Post 953918)
500 USD doesn't seems bad, does it? My N900 passed out, I think it is time for the big move.
You could buy a fully functional laptop/tablet/netbook for $500 - seems a little much for an accessory with such limited functionality.

maxximuscool 2011-02-23 22:58
Re: (Smasung Galaxy S II) VS (Motorola Atrix RELEASED!)
 
Samsung GSII is my most prefer choice. Why? Because why would you need a docking station? while you can just use Bluetooth? MHL is much much better than Docking to watch your favourite Videos.

ammyt 2011-02-23 23:15
Re: (Smasung Galaxy S II) VS (Motorola Atrix RELEASED!)
 
WTF? Apps other than the app market apps can not be installed?! Is this just an at&t crap or will all ATRIX handsets aid that?

ammyt 2011-02-23 23:16
Re: (Smasung Galaxy S II) VS (Motorola Atrix RELEASED!)
 
Okay I understand the reason of why we can't flash a custom ROM to the ATRIX, that's because its build is optimized for it. But no external apps compatibility? This is utter crap!

wmarone 2011-02-24 00:56
Re: (Smasung Galaxy S II) VS (Motorola Atrix RELEASED!)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ammyt (Post 954138)
Okay I understand the reason of why we can't flash a custom ROM to the ATRIX, that's because its build is optimized for it.
Actually it's because Motorola signs the kernel, which makes it impossible to flash a ROM that includes a new kernel, among other things.

Quote:
But no external apps compatibility? This is utter crap!
You can still root the device and fix that. But I'd avoid Motorola on principle.

scribbles 2011-02-24 01:58
Re: Smasung Galaxy S II, Moto Atrix, LG Optimus 3D, very tempting!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ammyt (Post 948781)
The ATRIX's docking station is just too good to be ignored!
I can easily ignore $400 for a laptop docking station... Motorola is getting out of hand with their pricing. They also want $799.99 for the Xoom Tablet (albeit a nice one). They've lost their minds... :eek:

Not to mention, I'm not gonna want anything with Verizon's stupid logo on the front of a tablet. They aesthetically ruin every device with their incessant branding. :mad:

gerbick 2011-02-24 02:12
Re: Smasung Galaxy S II, Moto Atrix, LG Optimus 3D, very tempting!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by cfh11 (Post 954106)
You could buy a fully functional laptop/tablet/netbook for $500 - seems a little much for an accessory with such limited functionality.
Same thing I said about the N900... and I got cursed at by this forum!

scribbles 2011-02-24 02:15
Re: (Smasung Galaxy S II) VS (Motorola Atrix RELEASED!)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by atilla (Post 953951)
i'm still waiting for the galaxy s2 ;)
no point for having a docking station if you have a hdmi out and a pc suite(except nokia ones)
Aaaannndd.... wait for it... MHL (Includes video)

Capt'n Corrupt 2011-02-24 11:34
Re: (Smasung Galaxy S II) VS (Motorola Atrix RELEASED!)
 
MHL seems like a stop gap solution at best. I would much rather see USB 3.0 fulfill this role (half the theoretical throughput of HDMI 1.3, but surely enough to push multiple 1080p streams).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_device_bit_rates

Still, MHL is nice in that you need fewer ports on the outside. The downside, is you still need a special cable for it to work on non-MHL compliant devices, which means the same number of cables as HDMI in the best case, and one additional in the worst (and likely common).

I do, however, like that MHL is paving the way for higher power charging through the USB port. This may eventually make it possible to charge devices like tablets via USB (without it taking 2 days :D).

Another thing in MHL's favour is the reduced port footprint on the device chassis. I can imagine that with smartphones tending towards the dimensions of ruled paper, chassis space is a premium.

m4r0v3r 2011-02-24 11:52
Re: (Smasung Galaxy S II) VS (Motorola Atrix RELEASED!)
 
cant maemo 5 be ported to the atrix....

cfh11 2011-02-24 13:59
Re: Smasung Galaxy S II, Moto Atrix, LG Optimus 3D, very tempting!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by gerbick (Post 954231)
Same thing I said about the N900... and I got cursed at by this forum!
But the key word is accessory. The n900 offers much more functionality than a docking station accessory. A portable computer is worth $500, a docking station is not.

Capt'n Corrupt 2011-02-24 16:57
Re: Smasung Galaxy S II, Moto Atrix, LG Optimus 3D, very tempting!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by cfh11 (Post 954531)
But the key word is accessory. The n900 offers much more functionality than a docking station accessory. A portable computer is worth $500, a docking station is not.
Install Ubuntu on your rooted Android device. Perhaps not for the GUI (VNC is less than efficient indeed), but for the CLI which should be more than worthy. Coupled with a docking station, you have quite a formidable work station, if only for non-intensive tasks and surfing. Even the GUI should be quite good for light tasks as well.

Regardless of your perspective on openness, it's hard to deny that this is extremely functional.

BTW.. Where's the Android X client already?!

danx 2011-02-24 17:07
Re: (Smasung Galaxy S II) VS (Motorola Atrix RELEASED!)
 
Quick question. my girlfriend just bought the Galaxy S . where can i go to get all the goodies on it . Is it easy to use like the N900. Or everything is easier once you mess with the N900 ..

ammyt 2011-02-24 17:34
Re: (Smasung Galaxy S II) VS (Motorola Atrix RELEASED!)
 
I don't think that 500 USD is expensive for all the goodies, and the handset's 200 USD price astonished me. 200 USD is nothing according to this piece of high tech.

cfh11 2011-02-24 19:14
Re: Smasung Galaxy S II, Moto Atrix, LG Optimus 3D, very tempting!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Capt'n Corrupt (Post 954690)
Install Ubuntu on your rooted Android device. Perhaps not for the GUI (VNC is less than efficient indeed), but for the CLI which should be more than worthy. Coupled with a docking station, you have quite a formidable work station, if only for non-intensive tasks and surfing. Even the GUI should be quite good for light tasks as well.

Regardless of your perspective on openness, it's hard to deny that this is extremely functional.

BTW.. Where's the Android X client already?!
What advantage does this offer over buying a much more capable laptop for $500? I think the concept has potential but it just isn't there yet.


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