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I beginning to think HP WebOS is my next OS its a shame it isnt fully opensource :-(
But as long as the Meego isnt release any phonehandset (thanks Elop but youre an idiot) and the reference UI of touchpads is kinda halfdone/laggy I dont see any competer to webos it seems to be the best atm :-) I still beleive Meego could succes but as long there isnt any good HW its just nothing. I mean those tablets shown on MWC is just "reference devices" nothing else... Keep post comments heree about what u know about WebOS :-) |
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WebOS is a fantastic system, much better than maemo or anything else currently on the market. The limitations it has had are hardware and app development. And although it isn't fully opensource, it is very pretty good when compared to iOS or others out there.
Hopefully the Pre 3 is a good phone, I'm definitely considering a switch. |
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I'm interested in WebOS, but I don't find any of the upcoming devices that appealing. The Pre 3 looks OK, but I would prefer a side-sliding keyboard. Also, the build quality does not look that great from the videos I've seen.
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My brother said they had the Pre 3 in the office for couple of days last week, he said the keyboard mechanism started creaking after such a short time. Probably a one-off but it doesn't instills confidence.
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when you compare meego and webos (all the layers below the actual user interface), is there much difference? i want a system that's basically a linux kernel with components i know from the desktop (x, bluez, dbus, gstreamer... you know...). i would like to be able to run shell scripts, ssh into the phone, run qt-applications that i wrote myself,...
i don't really care if the top layers, applications and UI, are open or closed. could webOS deliver this for me? (apart from the fact that i'll still have to find a place to order a device here...) |
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I'm also considering WebOS if I get desperate.
Not too smart to make the "we're moving to Win Phone 7" announcement less then a week after HP blew it out with all of those amazing new WebOS device announcements. I've been looking over at WebOS Internals and while they don't seem to have nearly the home brew support of Maemo, they do have some interesting packages available on their repository including Upstart, VNC, QT libs, and a full X server and associated libraries. VERY promising. Even if it's not as true an X11/Linux system as Maemo out of the box, all of the ingredients are available. Check out the preware repo contents here: http://git.webos-internals.org/ |
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HP needs better hardware designers. Hopefully they can poach on of the Nokia guys.
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They announced yesterday they will send "all qualified developers" a palm pre 2 device for free.
http://developer.palm.com/blog/2011/...opportunities/ Don't know what "qualified" means, but I'll see... |
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is there a bash shell, gnu utils and ability to run chroot apps? If not, what good as linux woud it be?
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Again, not as good as Maemo, but a really good start. |
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Looking at the webOS internals stuff I see I could get pretty much all the command line stuff I want
App development is a bit limited to either C or Javascript. It does have SDL so maybe pygame could work on it. Also I think I saw someone post that they are shipping qt so I wonder if that'll become a possibility. The two main issues are (1) limited HW availability due to single vendor and (2) with large parts not being open and HP limited SW upgrades, will we run into a similar situation as we do with Nokia and some Android manufacturers that to upgrade SW you have to buy a new device. |
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The single hardware source and possibility of a compelled hardware upgrade are no different then where we were with Maemo and Nokia. Except HP seems to give a s^$T about their Linux platform.... |
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Looking down WebOS Avenue myself for my next handset.
After the N900 I don't think I could go back to a closed or network branded O/S again. Not liking the current range of Palm handsets at the mo, they look a little too "Old School Samsung(ish)" to me. |
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WebOS looks interesting. However, the hardware upon which it runs concerns me. The earlier Palm-built Pres made the news several times for widespread hardware design and build issues, and a decade or more has passed since I've had an HP printer or other peripheral remain functional long enough past the end of its short limited warranty period to not leave me feeling the device's engineering had focused on being just good enough.
I'm watching and hoping HP will prove my fears groundless. There was a time I trusted HP for high quality engineering. I want to again. |
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I've had numerous build quality issues with my Palm Treos from years ago (600, 650, 680); but they were good with support. I just had to make an appointment with them to check their replacement unit stock, came by one of their support point and get an immediate hardware exchange.
Full backup and full restore of data took less than 15 minutes... and off I go, like nothing bad had happened. But yeah, this issue is certainly not new to Palm. I've higher expectations now that they're under hp. |
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I tried to register on developer.palm.com as a developer.
If you're like me and live outside of these countries: Argentina, Australia, Austria, Belgium, Brazil, Bulgaria, Canada, Chile, China, Costa Rica, Cyprus, Czech Republic, Denmark, Dominican Republic, Ecuador, Estonia, Finland, France, French Guiana, Germany, Gibraltar, Greece, Guadeloupe, Hong Kong, Hungary, Iceland, India, Indonesia, Ireland, Israel, Italy, Jamaica, Japan, Korea, Republic of, Latvia, Liechtenstein, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Malaysia, Malta, Martinique, Mexico, Netherlands, New Zealand, Norway, Philippines, Poland, Portugal, Reunion, Romania, San Marino, Singapore, Slovakia, Somalia, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland, Taiwan, Thailand, Turkey, United Arab Emirates, United Kingdom, United States, Uruguay, Venezuela though luck, you can't... :( unless... you know, you lie. :) You can register for their board. I started a thread there, asking around if there are others like me, but nothing yet. Join me :) : http://developer.palm.com/distributi...p?f=21&t=11260 They have a program now, Developer Device Program. http://developer.palm.com/index.php?...rticle&id=2129 Quote:
It will be in effect till June 30th 2011. It's only available in US. :( Hope HP will start broadening their borders, shortly... if not they will probably loose lot of developers, from here, who will instead go for Android. |
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WebOS seems to have the most affinity with Maemo/MeeGo, but since you'll only see WebOS on HP hardware, let's talk hardware.
The Palm Pre 2 doesn't have a compass. The Palm Pre 3 specs say compass (also for Veer?), but I think it's CPU is single core. I say sit back and wait. HP is making a good effort, but they're playing catchup at the moment and their hardware might leave some people wanting. |
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It's very tempting, possibly even the most viable alternative out there at the moment, but I'll wait to hear whether they stopped spying on customers first. |
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HP phone design is ugly as F**K. I want something more elegance and sexy. Make it a slim 4.0" and provide all the goodies hardware :) then I'll be all in baby.
For now the OS is great but the device is not so.. |
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Same restrictions for the Ovi Store, btw. |
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Great OS, same POS hardware and form factor. I hate that design from day 1.
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It's a shame that Google Skymap doesn't support this, but it's most certainly a software thing... |
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Ordered a pre plus this morning on ebay, almost new, for 166€!
I couldn't resist, since pre+ should be upgradable to webos 2.1 now. |
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I'm quite interested in the Metal Watch HP has announced.
Just when I resolve myself to the fact that I am moving on to Meego and not switching to webOS HP come out with something new... |
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it was only a few days ago that i was saying apple should do exactly that with the ipod nano given that people wear it on their wrist these days anyway. http://jedibeeftrix.wordpress.com/20...notifications/ |
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interesting article "HP: The Linux Desktop Company" : http://www.zdnet.com/blog/open-sourc...p-company/8423
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