So where is this elusive update?
 

No news yet on the elusive update.. Whats the new date? :)

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What update?

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Millhouse predicts this Friday June 29, 2007 but I doubt it.

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I thought it was the 26th.. Maybe I'm dyslexic.. Thats OK my n800 still isn't here yet.. 2 days :)

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Who pulled your chain? Kindly keep your opinions, predictions or any other thing you wish to annoy the users of this forum with to yourself. Thank you.

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Ummmmm ok SIR.

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^ what he said :evil:

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maybe they never sold enough units to bother!

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Frankly, I find your response much more annoying than the post that prompted it.

I, too, am keen to hear any opinions or predictions, wildly speculative or otherwise.

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Exactly... Milhouse posted this prediction many times over the past few months but after reading what others are saying about Nokia employees going on holidays in July... I now doubt he will be correct in his guess... I am being restricted to actually comment any further and perhaps even this explanation is enough for Reggie to follow through on his warning to ban me.

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And you agreed with me to not post secondhand info without substantiated facts... Links to posts, etc.

You lost the bet remember?

>> http://www.internettablettalk.com/fo...0452#post50452

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I apologize SIR. Here is one of the 25 times Millhouse predicted June 29, 2007 (POST #30)...

http://www.internettablettalk.com/fo...highlight=june

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there is a difference between a lie and prediction or guess. euchreprof stated a known lie to be fact for his own gain. euchreprof should be allowed his opinion but .......................

and again this post is turning to be about euchreprof

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going with the whole Nokia could care less about updates now, I don't think enough units where sold for them to care.
Truth be told I might be the only N800 owner in Brooklyn, NY.

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This all thinf reminds me DUKE NUKEM FOREVER paranoia.

So, again, the uodate would be available "when its done", right?

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It appears that ep is incapable of posting without creating bad vibes. We don't need him. He should be banned.

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Let me take the time to aplogize to YOU and the rest of the board. I hope this solves any animosity remaining from earlier in the month. I am trying to be a model citizen now as you can see in my posts.

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Sigh......

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For the past month I thought it was all about euchreprof. :rolleyes:

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Seems he is trying to recover his error. If you do not want to read him, just add to your ignore list instead of creating more hype.

Just my 2€/c

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:D

rofl

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Here is mty release date theory. Those making the decision have target dates, but these dates are not robotlike commandments. They are based on readiness. The date is not known by ANYONE as a ten-commandment-like rule: thou shalt release on Friday. This is why even the deepest insider must guess. Of course, the closer the release date comes, the better the odds it will actually be released on that day, but it is still subject to adjustment.

ep: it seems clear to me that you are drawn like a magnet to making divisive comments, even since the 'new ep' you pretend to have become. that is why I don't accept your apology. You never did anything to me, except lie, which was on general principles. I have nothing against you but think you should be banned in the interest of the group. Please haunt some other group.

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I think banning would be harsh. I think it would be more appropriate to write a script that modifies all his posts to, "I am the update fairy, leave a quarter under your pillow and your N800 will be blessed with Skype."

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Thanks sher'... I needed a good laugh this morning! :)

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So much of what many people want is not something Nokia has control over. Skype and Flash are proprietary products. Nokia can pay for the development, but Skype and Adobe control the products. On top of that, who know what happens in the negotiations between the lawyers when they are working out the licensing agreements.
Of course, I'm still eagerly checking maemo.org every day, hoping that it comes out. :)

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That's just common sense (which I already knew you possessed) :D.

And again: the massive re-org at Nokia affected everyone and everything. I cannot stress that enough. If you guys have seen the official announcements (mostly in financial venues) and processed what they obviously portend, then you know the past few months have been... chaotic to say the least. Personally, I've had to deal with a plant closure, a move to the America's timezone, the abolishment of timezones due to the re-org and now a move to a global position-- all since January. I can't imagine I'm the only one in this whirlwind.

Hey, I'm frustrated by delays too, but people can only do what they can do...

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Ok I'll take this as the confirm that we won't have the update (not that it is your fault, of course! :) )

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Um... that wasn't meant to be any such confirmation. I'm merely explaining one cause behind possible delays of promised deliveries, such as Skype by 1H07. I'm not saying the update absolutely will not make it in time.

Is that clear and yet at the same time elusive enough? :D

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I can confirm that our friends in Ruoholahti, Keiläniemi and Leppävaara ( a few sites, last one of networks group) have been under quite high stress. "the boat gonna rock heavily" was the favourite sentence.

However the N800 group are hiring marketing staff! That s a fact... maybe a fact that they are desperately trying to boost the sales

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Well, that's been one weak area... and now that Nokia has a new Devices segment, programs will no doubt have more responsibility for activities such as marketing than they did before.

Regardless, this shows promising activity... right? :D

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While here did you visit the Flagship store in downtown Helsinki? If so, you would have seen the new marketing upswing. Nokia is going on a marketing blitz. Could be brought on by the iPhone, or even the new SE (cough, cough, gag, cough) devices. By no means is Nokia standing still. I would say they are in stealth mode. Great things are coming.

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Yep. there are lot of plans. LEt s hope it does not do like the 7xxx series phone ( i forgot the digits) that looked by the way a bit like the IT with its touchscreen, the S90 OS, the camera and the DTV receiver...

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That phone suffered one major problem: no GSM 850 MHz support. That limited it, in the US, to operators on 1900 MHz. Although Cingular allegedly supports 1900, it's not really there... so the largest GSM operator couldn't support those tablet phones.

I have ranted and railed on the lunacy of omitting 850 from high-end devices, but it seems to fall on deaf ears. It's really insane, to me, when you look across the high-end N series and some support 850 and some do not. No explanation (excuse) I've heard holds water, either.

Back on topic: if only people here could see the amount of activity going into N800 OS and software development inhouse. Those folks are CRANKING.

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You are careful with your comments... as always... ;)

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[
Back on topic: if only people here could see the amount of activity going into N800 OS and software development inhouse. Those folks are CRANKING.[/QUOTE]

Yes, they re going "full steam". Well, given the ambitious projects, it s understandable. Some of my friends don't even pick up call, they only return them one week after, sometimes not at all :(

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Thats great to hear they are CRANKING!

Can they crank out these for us? Or pass these along =p

1. Email Client
2. Flash Performance (9.0 somehow, even with lack of SDK?)
3. Opera 9
4. Fix wasted screen real-estate
5. PIM Features (SyncML or Google is fine)
6. Accidentally unlock more video codecs and hardware performance? lol :)
7. Make the built in media player navigable
8. Wash my dishes. Really, my dish washer sucks.

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I understand Texrat. my friends there are also very very elusive when we chat about projects.

I don't understand why as there are so many manufacturers boasting about their projects years in advance.

One explanation is the number of project rejections, I ve been told.

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1) I'm sure they have thought about it...
2) ditto
3) ditto
4) hmmm...
5) maybe...
6) ?!
7) hmmm...
8) Yep, they will be over tonight and get right on that and the rest of this list.

I feel confident that the Nokia people are listening to their feedback across the web.

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I just got emailed a request for doing an additional survey by nokia.... I did the one on tableteer some time ago, but the one today was mostly centered around where I bought my n800 from, what lead me to my uprchase decision etc... definitelly had a marketing slant to it and not so much on the hardware/software.

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Yeah! Me too! So you wanto to steal me the Sennheiser headphones and the JBL speakers, isn't it?! :p