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RobMtl007 2007-06-28 01:42

Skype on a N800 caught in the Wild!!!!!
 
Greetings Everyone:


Well surely we will all be using Skype on the N800.

A website has posted a picture of N800 with Skype on it.

Take a look at this: http://jkontherun.blogs.com/jkontherun/

my predicition is going to be correct.

Regards Robert

SeRi@lDiE 2007-06-28 01:50

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Nice :cool:
Looking forward to the other additions not much skype ;)

Old Crow 2007-06-28 01:53

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Nice find.

It looks... just as I would expect it to look. It would really be nice if Skype status was displayed in the menubar like Gtalk, though.

Mara 2007-06-28 02:00

Re: Skype on a N800 caught in the Wild!!!!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RobMtl007 (Post 54399)
Greetings Everyone:


Well surely we will all be using Skype on the N800.

A website has posted a picture of N800 with Skype on it.

Take a look at this: http://jkontherun.blogs.com/jkontherun/

my predicition is going to be correct.

Regards Robert

Nice find... :)

Not sure what prediction you mean? That there is Video support and/or it is going to be released this Friday? They say in this link that the release is in July... which sounds about right.

Texrat 2007-06-28 03:32

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Think anyone will scream it it shows up July instead of this Friday?

anderbr 2007-06-28 04:15

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AAAaaaaahhhhh!

gisborne 2007-06-28 04:21

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This is great. But I'll be particularly pleased when it supports video. Walk-around video conferencing will be awesome, and might even be the breakthrough application.

iball 2007-06-28 05:41

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'Bout damn time.

Pebkac 2007-06-28 05:57

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/hand up

"Ill take one of those please" :)

murphy 2007-06-28 06:30

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From the link in the first post :

Quick update now that I've braved the 100-mile return drive and I'm headed for bed: I forgot to address the possibility of using the N800 integrated web-cam for Skype video calls. Based on my conversations with the Nokia representatives, it doesn't appear that this Skype release will support it. In the future? That's a definite maybe, but it's also purely speculative on my part...


:(

travis 2007-06-28 06:48

Re: Skype on a N800 caught in the Wild!!!!!
 
Let's just get Skype voice working reliably first, then we can worry about video :) I am more concerned that it will not be reliable at first. I plan to take this overseas with me on a long trip starting late summer as my only computer.

If this release has SDHC support, a reliable version of Skype, better Web 2.0, and more stability/bug-fixes, then I will be a happy man. I just bought an N800 in anticipation of this. I have been waiting to buy SkypeIn and SkypeOut until I knew that the N800 would deliver. I have also waited to buy memory cards to see the word on official SDHC support.

I am really hoping that Skype helps the Maemo platform. I want the N900 to be a big success, too, and for the platform to thrive.

Travis

Zhe 2007-06-28 07:02

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No video?

Those cheapskypes.

Toontje 2007-06-28 07:28

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Good! Good! Skype on the N800. Finally!
Now how is it integrated? Is it considered a seperate application like Gizmo? Or is it integrated in the same way Google Talk is? With the online status on the status bar, auto-launched, integrated with Contacts, etc?

Texrat? Your call.

Ton.

Texrat 2007-06-28 07:44

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Toontje (Post 54449)
Good! Good! Skype on the N800. Finally!
Now how is it integrated? Is it considered a seperate application like Gizmo? Or is it integrated in the same way Google Talk is? With the online status on the status bar, auto-launched, integrated with Contacts, etc?

Texrat? Your call.

Ton.

You'll find out soon enough. :p

proterra 2007-06-28 08:07

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Texrat (Post 54455)
You'll find out soon enough. :p

But he could be hit by a number 3 bus.............tell him now.......promise we wont look ;)

maxilogan 2007-06-28 08:12

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Quote:

Originally Posted by proterra (Post 54456)
But he could be hit by a number 3 bus.............tell him now.......promise we wont look ;)

ROTFL!! Me too, won't look

maxilogan 2007-06-28 08:18

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Toontje (Post 54449)
Good! Good! Skype on the N800. Finally!
Now how is it integrated? Is it considered a seperate application like Gizmo? Or is it integrated in the same way Google Talk is? With the online status on the status bar, auto-launched, integrated with Contacts, etc?

If you saw the screenshots it appears to be definitely a third party app - no integration in the system.

There is for sure a way to start it with the system (I have done it once in the past to start a calendar app which name I don't remember at this moment...), but you must use XTerm ad modify some files here and there, if you're used to use Linux, no problems at all

Toontje 2007-06-28 08:20

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Quote:

Originally Posted by maxilogan (Post 54458)
If you saw the screenshots it appears to be definitely a third party app - no integration in the system.

There is for sure a way to start it with the system (I have done it once in the past to start a calendar app which name I don't remember at this moment...), but you must use XTerm ad modify some files here and there, if you're used to use Linux, no problems at all

And if you're not used to Linux? I should have bought a Pocket PC, right? :(

BTW, look at the image: http://jkontherun.blogs.com/photos/u...nokia_n800.jpg

What is the icon between the Skype and the Web icon in the running apps area? Looks like a phone....

Ton.

maxilogan 2007-06-28 08:21

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Toontje (Post 54460)
And if you're not used to Linux? I should have bought a Pocket PC, right? :(

Give me 5 minutes, I was already searching it to post. No difficult at all, believe me. :)

maxilogan 2007-06-28 08:29

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...well... at least...

http://lists.maemo.org/pipermail//ma...ry/002831.html
http://www.internettablettalk.com/fo...ead.php?t=1514

maxilogan 2007-06-28 08:31

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Toontje (Post 54460)
What is the icon between the Skype and the Web icon in the running apps area? Looks like a phone....

Oh, no! An iPhone layer on the Nokia N800!! ;)

Guess maybe is a secondary Skype window with a phone/skype call in progress

Toontje 2007-06-28 09:19

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Thanks!!

Ton.

Toontje 2007-06-28 09:21

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Quote:

Originally Posted by maxilogan (Post 54463)
Oh, no! An iPhone layer on the Nokia N800!!

Woohoo!! Now we can zoom our pictures using two fingers!! BOOM!! :D

luketoh 2007-06-28 09:26

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http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/shut-yo-mouth/is-that-skype-on-a-nokia-n800-273037.php

Seb Per 2007-06-28 09:31

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Quote:

Originally Posted by maxilogan (Post 54463)
Oh, no! An iPhone layer on the Nokia N800!! ;)

Guess maybe is a secondary Skype window with a phone/skype call in progress

I don't know about this icon. But the cellular layer is definitely coming, maybe not this time. too soon.

swing 2007-06-28 09:44

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When you say cellular layer, do you mean support on the N800 to access the information on a phone, or actual hardware within the IT itself?

Seb Per 2007-06-28 09:54

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Quote:

Originally Posted by swing (Post 54483)
When you say cellular layer, do you mean support on the N800 to access the information on a phone, or actual hardware within the IT itself?

It s more complex than that. It will be hw AND sw, and in two steps:

1- sw + ... *
2- hw + sw

* : I m not talking of Skype. Unless the leak is totally unreliable, which I doubt.

Toontje 2007-06-28 10:13

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Can someone explain to me what is a cellular layer? If it's enabling making phonecalls on the N800, i doubt that with the current hardware. Unless Nokia has hidden phone hardware and a SIM slot somewhere in the N800 like they did with the FM radio.
If you talk about making phonecalls from the N800 by using a separate mobile phone, what's the point? Can't i just use the mobile phone in the first place?
Or are we talking about something else?

Ton.

Seb Per 2007-06-28 10:21

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Toontje (Post 54486)
Can someone explain to me what is a cellular layer? If it's enabling making phonecalls on the N800, i doubt that with the current hardware. Unless Nokia has hidden phone hardware and a SIM slot somewhere in the N800 like they did with the FM radio.
If you talk about making phonecalls from the N800 by using a separate mobile phone, what's the point? Can't i just use the mobile phone in the first place?
Or are we talking about something else?

Ton.

it s adding cellular call capability directly and independently on the IT, and/ or the next version of the IT.

I totally ignore if the current IT has in its hw more hidden agenda than the FM radio receiver. I doubt.

I m not familiar with this word "layer" but this was the word used. My non specialist guess is that it means adding a new and essential function (ie: cell phone) that is modifying the concept of the device as a whole.

To reply to you last question: we are also talking about something else. There are other ways to add cell phone capability than having a SIM slot hidden or not :-)

Seb

benny1967 2007-06-28 10:42

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I find myself hoping more and more that this Skype thingie will be available for the N800 as soon as possible. I break out in a nasty itchy rash each time I read "Skype" here in a topic title. It's even more overhyped than the iPh0ne at the moment. :eek:


(Remember what they say: Skype is hype, SIP is hip :D )

maxilogan 2007-06-28 11:56

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Seb Per (Post 54488)
I totally ignore if the current IT has in its hw more hidden agenda than the FM radio receiver.

We still have pending messages on a hw easter egg which is supposed not to be the FM radio, tough...

http://www.internettablettalk.com/fo...ght=easter+egg

richie 2007-06-28 12:08

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Seb Per (Post 54484)
It s more complex than that. It will be hw AND sw, and in two steps:

1- sw + ... *
2- hw + sw

* : I m not talking of Skype. Unless the leak is totally unreliable, which I doubt.

Hi

How is a cell phone layer going to work with Maemo and open source? Ari has said before that the IT is not a cell phone, so that development is unrestricted. Should IT become a cell phone does that mean restrictions on the device, sandbox environment? Or does development with Linux open source and usage of the IT's remain the same, develop and run what you want?

Rich

Seb Per 2007-06-28 12:14

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Quote:

Originally Posted by maxilogan (Post 54498)
We still have pending messages on a hw easter egg which is supposed not to be the FM radio, tough...

http://www.internettablettalk.com/fo...ght=easter+egg

Yes, that s true. But I doubt for a few reasons that this easter egg is a gsm receiver. I can be wrong. I d like to be wrong.

Maybe something else?

Seb Per 2007-06-28 12:21

Re: Skype on a N800 caught in the Wild!!!!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by richie (Post 54500)
Hi

How is a cell phone layer going to work with Maemo and open source? Ari has said before that the IT is not a cell phone, so that development is unrestricted. Should IT become a cell phone does that mean restrictions on the device, sandbox environment? Or does development with Linux open source and usage of the IT's remain the same, develop and run what you want?

Rich

"with the N800, we re going cellular; a cellular layer will be added, the change will be both sw and hw".
I hope it does not mean that a symbian version of the IT will come out. "Adding a layer" sounds weird if it means dropping Open Source.
Or the source should be fired immediately from his position for not understanding the basics of Communication devices.

I m not a specialist. Can anyone help outhere?

maxilogan 2007-06-28 12:24

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Seb Per (Post 54505)
"with the N800, we re going cellular; a cellular layer will be added, the change will be both sw and hw"

Do anyone know whether the N800 SD slots are (either) SD I/O? Maybe some external accessory, just to add *data* connection.. I'd appreciate it. Not a full phone, anyway

zerojay 2007-06-28 12:27

Re: Skype on a N800 caught in the Wild!!!!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Toontje (Post 54460)
And if you're not used to Linux? I should have bought a Pocket PC, right? :(

BTW, look at the image: http://jkontherun.blogs.com/photos/u...nokia_n800.jpg

What is the icon between the Skype and the Web icon in the running apps area? Looks like a phone....

Ton.

The icon shown is Internet Call. You can see it for yourself by selecting New Internet Call from your Communication icon.

Seb Per 2007-06-28 12:30

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Quote:

Originally Posted by maxilogan (Post 54506)
Do anyone know whether the N800 SD slots are (either) SD I/O? Maybe some external accessory, just to add *data* connection.. I'd appreciate it. Not a full phone, anyway

wow. you seem to have a good flair

maxilogan 2007-06-28 12:50

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Seb Per (Post 54508)
wow. you seem to have a good flair

:o I'm just supposing, basing on my knowledge of other PDA hardware, but I'm not involved at any level (unfortunately, I'd say).

nedim 2007-06-28 12:51

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What about bluetooth gadget in the form of over-the-ear headset with GSM simcard slot. N800 could talk to it over bluetooth and it would be responsible for all the GSM/GPRS/EDGE/whatever traffic. So it's still "one device" with accessory, and there would be no need for tethering any more. Perfect N800 companion!

Now that is something I could get excited about.

nedim 2007-06-28 13:06

Re: Skype on a N800 caught in the Wild!!!!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by richie (Post 54500)
Hi

How is a cell phone layer going to work with Maemo and open source? Ari has said before that the IT is not a cell phone, so that development is unrestricted. Should IT become a cell phone does that mean restrictions on the device, sandbox environment? Or does development with Linux open source and usage of the IT's remain the same, develop and run what you want?

Rich

Open source and cell phones are not mutually exclusive. Motorola has several phones based on Linux. PalmOS has taken the Linux route. Blackberries are Java based with all the API exposed. I had both PalmOS and Blackberry phone and I could run what I want including things that would render my phone useless. How is that different from N800? Phone has no magic properties that make it a special device. Gsm is just another transport mechanism like wifi or bluetooth that uses different frequency (for all I care to understand). Adding a gsm gadget to N800 should be no different then adding a usb ethernet adapter (not that many would care for it). The main trick would be in software to control it. But we all know that is completely possible.


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