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govprog 2011-03-06 07:28

How many maemo users do we have?
 
Well,when the nokia had said that they are going to announce meego,I think most of us waited for it(at least I did) but after the nokia/microsoft partnership, I heard some news that the maemo users are preparing to switch to webOS by now. My question is:How many maemo users we (still) have. Do you think it's going to be abandoned or you think it has a bright future? It would be cool to have N950. But, do you think the rumors about the N950 are real and we should wait for it, or you think no such miracle will happen? Or maybe we should wait for another surprise from nokia?
Quote:

Originally Posted by govprog (Post 961809)
Now added a poll.
But just one side note:when I said maemo/meego I also meant any similar operating systems too(debian or meego alike(I think meego is fedora based if I am not wrong.))


Frappacino 2011-03-06 07:36

Re: How many maemo users do we have?
 
.... why do you care ? why do these answers matter to you ?

Maemo has already been officially abandoned and has been for some time, so there has been no official Nokia support for some time.

As for community support, no one knows - why are you asking a question that cannot be answered ? As it has been pointed out repeatedly, you should only keep the N900 if you are happy with the state of it as it is NOW - community support is VOLUNTARY and can disappear overnight - there are no guarantees. Hell if Nokia pulls funding from TMO overnight (which it can), then your community support takes a big hit. No one here can guarantee community support.

As for N950, there are no "facts" about this device or even if it is a phone. What are you exactly asking here ?

Are you looking for some excuse to stay with Nokia or something ? No one here can give you definitive answers to your questions. Only pure speculation, hearsay and what their "gut" tells them.

If you need someone to reassure you that the maemo community will live on, my advice is to go find another community based on a system that is still officially alive, because Maemo is not going to offer you that assurance.

abill_uk 2011-03-06 07:41

Re: How many maemo users do we have?
 
ABSOLUTELY TRUE not a truer word can be said !!!!.

nicholes 2011-03-06 07:59

Re: How many maemo users do we have?
 
i am praud to be a maemo user and i will be a MAEMO user.i don't care anything now since i have got n900

govprog 2011-03-06 08:00

Re: How many maemo users do we have?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Frappacino (Post 961643)
.... why do you care ? why do these answers matter to you ?

Could you please explain me why you don't care?
Quote:

Originally Posted by Frappacino (Post 961643)
Maemo has already been officially abandoned and has been for some time, so there has been no official Nokia support for some time.

Yes, I see.
Quote:

Originally Posted by Frappacino (Post 961643)
why are you asking a question that cannot be answered ?

Nobody knows how many N900 units have been sold?
Quote:

Originally Posted by Frappacino (Post 961643)
As it has been pointed out repeatedly, you should only keep the N900 if you are happy with the state of it as it is NOW

I am asking about your state.
Quote:

Originally Posted by Frappacino (Post 961643)
As for N950, there are no "facts" about this device or even if it is a phone. What are you exactly asking here ?

Asking your opinion about the existence of N950
Quote:

Originally Posted by Frappacino (Post 961643)
No one here can give you definitive answers to your questions. Only pure speculation, hearsay and what their "gut" tells them.

Sorry.Perhaps I should have pointed out that I am asking about your opinion.
Quote:

Originally Posted by Frappacino (Post 961643)
Are you looking for some excuse to stay with Nokia or something?

No,I am looking for a excuse about my worry that whether the debian will extinct or not.
And, did you want to frag me with your reply? Or I misunderstood?(Sorry if my message looks offensive.:o)

HellFlyer 2011-03-06 08:03

Re: How many maemo users do we have?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by govprog (Post 961650)
Why you don't care

Yes, I see.
As for community support, no one knows -
Nobody knows how many N900 units have been sold?

I am asking about your state.

Asking your opinion about the existence of N950

No,I am looking for a excuse about my worry that whether the debian will extinct or not.
And, did you want to frag me with your reply? Or I misunderstood?

Trolling wont get you anything ;)

govprog 2011-03-06 08:04

Re: How many maemo users do we have?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by HellFlyer (Post 961651)
Trolling wont get you anything ;)

I didn't want to troll anyone or anything. I just asked.Again I apologize if my message looks offensive.

Mentalist Traceur 2011-03-06 08:48

Re: How many maemo users do we have?
 
Can someone explain to me how people think this is trolling? That was one of the most calm and peaceful replies possible. govprog, don't worry, you're not trolling.

As for the answer, I have no clue how many users there are. More than all the active N900 users on here, for sure. *Shrug* And no, Nokia never released N900 sales numbers, so we don't know.

droitwichgas 2011-03-06 09:09

Re: How many maemo users do we have?
 
The replies to your OP seem a bit harsh as it is something I have wondered myself however it is impossible to answer unless every MT user answer your question?

I understand Nokia sold around 1m N900's and around 100K maybe using MT regularly? I suppose the downloads of the latest popular app on this website may give a clue to the number of active users?

It would be intertesting to know how many users have downloaded the CSSU?

abill_uk 2011-03-06 09:22

Re: How many maemo users do we have?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by govprog (Post 961640)
Well,when the nokia had said that they are going to announce meego,I think most of us waited for it(at least I did) but after the nokia/microsoft partnership, I heard some news that the maemo users are preparing to switch to webOS by now. My question is:How many maemo users we (still) have. Do you think it's going to be abandoned or you think it has a bright future? It would be cool to have N950. But, do you think the rumors about the N950 are real and we should wait for it, or you think no such miracle will happen? Or maybe we should wait for another surprise from nokia?

Very fair question to ask and certainly no way trolling !!!.

niloy 2011-03-06 09:41

Re: How many maemo users do we have?
 
I am a maemo user, hope it helps.

govprog 2011-03-06 10:12

Re: How many maemo users do we have?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by droitwichgas (Post 961676)
It would be intertesting to know how many users have downloaded the CSSU?

If the stable version released, then we will know,and yes that would be interesting
Quote:

Originally Posted by niloy (Post 961690)
I am a maemo user, hope it helps.

Well, I don't know.Maybe it does, maybe it didn't.Depending on your purpose.

the dark knight 2011-03-06 10:23

Re: How many maemo users do we have?
 
seems too many people from here like to criticise others too frequently. Im certainly no maemo expert. But I really like the N900, its become my comfy slippers and replaced my laptop for 90percent of my daily usage. I would love for it to continue, but have to be honest that if meego offers as much useability for me and is supported by whoever, then I will possibly jump ship at some point. I can see this forum at times becoming too critical of noobs (still class myself as one, and always will compared to many genius' on here, without whom my maemo experience would have been dire), and too critical of anyone whose opinion on whatever subject it be doesnt conform to an obviously unwrtten maemo law somewhere by a few. When I brought my N900s, I wasnt under the impression it would ever be supported infinitely, or get flash 10, or become the meaning of life. Its an awesome device, ultimately we could all live without (how ever farfetched that may seem), and this community has been the making of the device in my opinion. If this place does vanish over night it would be a huge shame, but I feel the whinging and criticism of an increasing number will speed its demise :(

Garcel 2011-03-06 10:51

Re: How many maemo users do we have?
 
It really depend on the user if he/she is happy with meamo. For me I say i will continue being a meamo user with or without nokia's help. Im still looking forward on what more can n900 do.

The community however. I can see that they are still working for more discoveries.

I cannot blame for those people who got tired of n900 so I say will just have to wait for what will happen in the future.

As for your question i Don't find it offending. Although you still didn't give me a simple way on how you did with the hawx game. hehe.

electroaudio 2011-03-06 11:18

Re: How many maemo users do we have?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by govprog (Post 961650)
No,I am looking for a excuse about my worry that whether the debian will extinct or not.

Debian is one of the oldest linux distributions and was already old and mature when N900 came. And it will be around for long after the N900, so no need to worry about that.

I also believe there will be some sort of communitysupport as long as the phone can survive mechanically. Those fashinpeople who cares about nokia support, upgrades and such stuff will ofcourse dissapear very fast. And leave behind a core of very intelligent and knowledgeable people, that thinks the N900 is unique.

Compare it to Nokias real communicators (Not e90) who had communitysupport for many years after they were dropped by nokia. And in some extent to commodore C64 and Amiga, who still has plenty of communitysupport despite the fact that they are homecomputers that havent been manufactured in 30years.

However, even if you were the last N900 user on earth, you could still get plenty of help from knowledgeable Debian users...

SavageBrat 2011-03-06 11:37

Re: How many maemo users do we have?
 
Hmm..you could have added a poll to this subject..but you still wouldn't have a true way of knowing though..

ericsson 2011-03-06 11:40

Re: How many maemo users do we have?
 
I have 7.3 Maemo users.

govprog 2011-03-06 13:42

Re: How many maemo users do we have?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SavageBrat (Post 961743)
Hmm..you could have added a poll to this subject..but you still wouldn't have a true way of knowing though..

Now added a poll.
But just one side note:when I said maemo/meego I also meant any similar operating systems too(debian or meego alike(I think meego is fedora based if I am not wrong.))

zimon 2011-03-06 13:53

Re: How many maemo users do we have?
 
Samsung Galaxy S2-Meego next autumn.

Kevstacey 2011-03-06 14:05

Re: How many maemo users do we have?
 
i can honestly say, ive never owned a better device than n900 :)

its great to be able to fully customize it and do hacks which other phones can't so i would stick with maemo. It would be pointless getting an android as apps from android are coming to n900 anyway :)

n900 lover 2011-03-06 14:09

Re: How many maemo users do we have?
 
I bought my baby in Feb.2010, and after having it fall in my coffee , almost die, and then use it with a coffee stained screen for almost 6 months before i could afford to buy another screen, it was my first time opening any phone and trying to fix it, and im glad that it was the n900, cos it taught me alot.....lets put it this way, i never thought i would using something like x terminal and linux! i had no idea what linux was pre n900!

Then i had to cut down my use cos of work, i needed something light and a bit easier to use with one hand so i moved to android, specifically i went for the htc wildfire, and allthough it was the budget version of th desire, i had something to compare to the n900, since the wildfire was running a 534 mhz processor. and being honest with myself, i was getting bored of the n900(shame on me!) :-)....so i used the htc for about 3 months so far and go to know it quite well, it started getting just a bit too familiar.

I never could give up my nightly visits to the maemo site and occassionaly i would mess around on my n900 for a bit, but then i realised that someone had made it easy to over clock the n900 and boom! i was back on my baby overclocking and theme customizing and then, like out of the blue!, they release the new CSSU and i went mad!lol i turned my baby into a beast with the help of some amazing people here in the community. after having set everything the way i want it, i decided to install omweather and after putting the widget on my desktop i realised that it forcedrotated my desktop! so i have one desktop which works in both landscape and portrait! customised conversations and overclocked to 1ghz!

So.... do i use maemo? i will never get rid of my baby even if it becomes obsolete. i hope one day nokia and all the other os and phone making companies learn something from this community and pull their fingers out!

MAEMO CSSU ROCKS!

nicholes 2011-03-06 14:19

Re: How many maemo users do we have?
 
so according to this poll what will be the future of WP7????( 0 vote! )
should nokia start this type of voting before releasing any OS?

attila77 2011-03-06 14:30

Re: How many maemo users do we have?
 
There is no 'one OS to rule them all', and the Maemo crowd (esp t.m.o. :) ) is not really whom WP7 is aimed at, i.e. there will be Maemites who will always prefer some linux variant (whether that be a future MeeGo, webOS or (gasp) Android device), and then there are those who would actually rather go to WP7 from Symbian or whatever they are using now.

abill_uk 2011-03-06 14:35

Re: How many maemo users do we have?
 
Whatever will go onto the N900 will be preferred by every 900 owner lol.

Problem is we are very limited right now as Meego is a no go for the time being so IF they bring out WP7 adapted for the 900 i am certain 100% EVERYONE will try it no matter what so the Windows haters can shut up cos it also includes you HA.

NB Maemo is a dead horse unless they make it open source, silly question really as to how many Maemo users there are.

govprog 2011-03-06 15:11

Re: How many maemo users do we have?
 
@n900 lover:Me too. I don't want to throw away my own N900 any time soon.:)
Quote:

Originally Posted by abill_uk (Post 961838)
Whatever will go onto the N900 will be preferred by every 900 owner lol.

Bet on that.:)
Quote:

Originally Posted by abill_uk (Post 961838)
Problem is we are very limited right now as Meego is a no go for the time being so IF they bring out WP7 adapted for the 900 i am certain 100% EVERYONE will try it no matter what so the Windows haters can shut up cos it also includes you HA.

I don't hate Windows.Hate is bad.
Quote:

Originally Posted by abill_uk (Post 961838)
NB Maemo is a dead horse unless they make it open source

Well, when I said Maemo,I meant every debian alike OS we might have in the future too.
Quote:

Originally Posted by abill_uk (Post 961838)
silly question really as to how many Maemo users there are.

Maybe silly,but I think some(or most) of us liked to know.

govprog 2011-03-06 15:25

Re: How many maemo users do we have?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by attila77 (Post 961835)
There is no 'one OS to rule them all', and the Maemo crowd (esp t.m.o. :) ) is not really whom WP7 is aimed at

Sorry,no can do.By the way,I don't have any sites that I can put the poll on. Perhaps one of you can do(If there aren't any out there).Or, if we put the poll on a general smartphone site or store,perhaps we can get more realastic results(just like the last time)
Quote:

Originally Posted by attila77 (Post 961835)
i.e. there will be Maemites who will always prefer some linux variant (whether that be a future MeeGo, webOS or (gasp) Android device), and then there are those who would actually rather go to WP7 from Symbian or whatever they are using now.

That's why I have left the choice. You are free to choose WP7(or android webOS or etc.) and I won't shout at anyone chose a different OS.And the point is,if we have enough linux smartphone users,then I don't have to worry about its extinction.:)

ammuvi 2011-03-06 15:52

Re: How many maemo users do we have?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by govprog (Post 961640)
Well,when the nokia had said that they are going to announce meego,I think most of us waited for it(at least I did) but after the nokia/microsoft partnership, I heard some news that the maemo users are preparing to switch to webOS by now. My question is:How many maemo users we (still) have. Do you think it's going to be abandoned or you think it has a bright future? It would be cool to have N950. But, do you think the rumors about the N950 are real and we should wait for it, or you think no such miracle will happen? Or maybe we should wait for another surprise from nokia?

i love my nokia n900 ......untill it will broken into 2 pieces........love maemo.

attila77 2011-03-06 15:59

Re: How many maemo users do we have?
 
Quote:

Problem is we are very limited right now as Meego is a no go for the time being so IF they bring out WP7 adapted for the 900 i am certain 100% EVERYONE will try it no matter what so the Windows haters can shut up cos it also includes you HA.
There is no if. The N900 does not fit WP7 hardware requirements (which happen to be very strict compared to other platforms).

AndyNokia232 2011-03-06 16:18

Re: How many maemo users do we have?
 
Has there ever been such love for a mobile phone? I bet those iPhone users would say "yeah! We love our iPhones!" then throw their 4 away the second the 5 comes out.

thezax 2011-03-06 16:40

Re: How many maemo users do we have?
 
You know that most middle eastren countries are are nokia-centric, and i find myself surprised daily by how many n900 are run into. In yemen, of all places alone, in the last 3 days i have ran into 6 different n900 users. Which is a signficant increase from my home country lebanon, where BB has ravaged the people.

thought i would share this little tid bit.

gerbick 2011-03-06 17:04

Re: How many maemo users do we have?
 
I've asked, I've researched, I've hunted down any documents I could have... hell, I bought stock so I could see if that would net me more information of their sales.

But as it stands, it didn't happen. I've yet to find out the true N900 sale numbers.

geneven 2011-03-06 17:30

Re: How many maemo users do we have?
 
I plan to go to a dumb phone + tablet combo next. While it lasts, the N900 and a tablet will be great.

I think it's delusional to spend big sums on pocket technology. It just isn't worth it.

Grok 2011-03-06 17:43

Re: How many maemo users do we have?
 
Next Phone?
I try every phone I can get my hands on.....conclusion thus far?

I'm going to make my N900 last as long as I can.

I'm currently looking for a spare.

udaychaitanya16 2011-03-06 17:44

Re: How many maemo users do we have?
 
I ve disabled the symantec for one day to install and try out Backtrack,the next day i was with loadful of virus in my windows xp.I hated it and since then i have been happily married ubuntu.One day i got a nice baby named maemo.The community around me has been so helpful that i now know how to educate my lil one.How can i afford to lose my cute baby?Tell me boys?

ericsson 2011-03-06 18:44

Re: How many maemo users do we have?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by geneven (Post 961921)
I plan to go to a dumb phone + tablet combo next. While it lasts, the N900 and a tablet will be great.

I think it's delusional to spend big sums on pocket technology. It just isn't worth it.

Yea, tablets are cheapo things ;) Anyway, I understand where you are coming from. But tablets are too large, and the good ones doesn't have hw keyboard. A more modern N900, 4 inch hi res screen, hw keyboard would be perfect. OS? Symbian is by far preferable, but Maemo is fine also.

lma 2011-03-06 19:17

Re: How many maemo users do we have?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gerbick (Post 961912)
I've yet to find out the true N900 sale numbers.

Sales figures are one thing, a more significant (IMHO) number would be devices still in use. One way to see that trend might be download stats on repository.maemo.org.

skykooler 2011-03-06 19:34

Re: How many maemo users do we have?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by govprog (Post 961809)
Now added a poll.
But just one side note:when I said maemo/meego I also meant any similar operating systems too(debian or meego alike(I think meego is fedora based if I am not wrong.))

Fedora uses the RPM package distribution system, while Maemo uses the Debian system. I am not sure whether Maemo is based on Debian or written from the ground up, but it isn't based on Fedora.

strange1712 2011-03-06 19:49

Re: How many maemo users do we have?
 
Meego is based mainly on Moblin as I've seen, and that one was based just partially on Fedora. I think Maemo is closer to Debian than Meego to Fedora.

Swimm12984 2011-03-06 20:12

Re: How many maemo users do we have?
 
where's the symbian option...its not dead yet

gerbick 2011-03-06 21:34

Re: How many maemo users do we have?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lma (Post 961980)
Sales figures are one thing, a more significant (IMHO) number would be devices still in use. One way to see that trend might be download stats on repository.maemo.org.

I disagree here. Just the sales numbers would be accurate to gauge what's been sold and more accurate than what was shipped for instance.

The download stats - I know from even my time/experience that I downloaded the same thing multiple times due to either reformats, updates that went wonky or me screwing up my own install and starting back again with a new install.

So those numbers are a bit inflated. And in some cases, not wholly reliable - some of the best apps got minimum downloads for some reason.


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