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redscorpionkiller 2011-03-16 04:49

Doesnt n900 support 3G video calls ?
 
its now been 7 months that i have my n900 & to the shock that i just now came to know that n900 does not support 3G video call ?
WTF ? this is a crap phone then !! i hate u nokia for this ,,, idiots !!!

bandora 2011-03-16 05:15

Re: Doesnt n900 support 3G video calls ?
 
I loled @ your post..

raaj13 2011-03-16 05:23

Re: Doesnt n900 support 3G video calls ?
 
what it took you 7 months.
lol
I knew that before I bought my N900

shazosbourne 2011-03-16 05:30

Re: Doesnt n900 support 3G video calls ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by redscorpionkiller (Post 968683)
its now been 7 months that i have my n900 & to the shock that i just now came to know that n900 does not support 3G video call ?
WTF ? this is a crap phone then !! i hate u nokia for this ,,, idiots !!!

So you bought a phone expecting 3G video calls but didn't bother to check the specifications before doing so?

I know who the idiot is.......:D

vkv.raju 2011-03-16 10:04

Re: Doesnt n900 support 3G video calls ?
 
But seriously, missing 3G video calling functionality in the N900 is a bit silly. It's not like Nokia doesn't know how to do or something. They have this on their Symbian phones. What is stopping them from providing it on the N900?

Even the much anticipated/planned MeeGo-DE doesn't support 3G video calling at the moment (this could change in the future though).

Venemo 2011-03-16 10:31

Re: Doesnt n900 support 3G video calls ?
 
The reason is that noone really uses 3G video calls. I haven't yet met anyone who uses it.

Reason: wireless providers give 3G video calls for such a high price so that buying a data plan and making Skype video calls over 3G is cheapre.

vkv.raju 2011-03-16 11:08

Re: Doesnt n900 support 3G video calls ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Venemo (Post 968816)
The reason is that noone really uses 3G video calls. I haven't yet met anyone who uses it.

Reason: wireless providers give 3G video calls for such a high price so that buying a data plan and making Skype video calls over 3G is cheapre.

I don't know about the rates at your place but when 3G was introduced in India, my prepaid plan offered video calls at 50p per minute. Same as the voice call rates. And even after 1 year, I think the rates are still the same.

50p = 0.5 INR and 1$ = 45 INR.

Mr.Rent 2011-03-16 11:12

Re: Doesnt n900 support 3G video calls ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Venemo (Post 968816)
The reason is that noone really uses 3G video calls. I haven't yet met anyone who uses it.

so, why all the other phone on the planet..even for 50 euros have this feature?

strange..hu.. nobody wants, nobody uses but most of the phone has it

I'm sorry you can say what you want, but there is no logical/technical/commercial reason for this lack, i can leave withouth it but I have the right to be upset, when I read the specs on 3 website it was written under 3g videocall: "will be released in the future"... they lied!

twigleaf1976 2011-03-16 11:15

Re: Doesnt n900 support 3G video calls ?
 
Part of the problem is when it took off there wasn't enough handsets that supported 3G. So you couldn't call anyone on them, I did once on my Tytn 2 and it was quite novel at the time.

But I have to ask Nokia if you don't support video calls, what is the f***ing point of putting a face pointing camera on the phone. It is such a low quality that you can't seriously use it, not that any software was bundled with it so as to make it useful anyway.

That is the idiotic thing with this.

To the OP.
"Welcome to the N900, letting you down a little bit more each day."

tswindell 2011-03-16 11:20

Re: Doesnt n900 support 3G video calls ?
 
@OP, so you don't use 3G video calling, and you're angry just because the feature isn't there? Is it me or does that seem a bit ridiculous ...

tswindell 2011-03-16 11:24

Re: Doesnt n900 support 3G video calls ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr.Rent (Post 968833)
so, why all the other phone on the planet..even for 50 euros have this feature?

Really? Show me a modern handset for 50 USD that has 3G video calling please, proper retail cost.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr.Rent (Post 968833)
I'm sorry you can say what you want, but there is no logical/technical/commercial reason for this lack, i can leave withouth it but I have the right to be upset, when I read the specs on 3 website it was written under 3g videocall: "will be released in the future"... they lied!

Actually, there are plenty of reasons, technical/logical & commercial as to why the N900 doesn't have 3G video calling.

In a related note, having video calling through skype is a much better idea, not just because of quality and cost. But also more people use skype for video calling than 3G, from what I can tell.

stickymick 2011-03-16 11:34

Re: Doesnt n900 support 3G video calls ?
 
The problem with 3G video calling is that the networks don't fully support it.
If this was the case we'd be able to make a 3G video call whenever and wherever we like.
Take a look at any 3G coverage map and you'll see why. 3G blackspots abound.

I've said it time and time again, it wasn't just Nokia that ruined the N900's chances. The networks did the most damage IMO. T-Mobile, Orange and 3 refused to stock the phone because they couldn't fill it with their restrictive branding and WAP only services and apps. And their refusal to invest in their networks is evident in the fact that they are all now bringing in restrictions and caps on the internet services.

To make a 3G video call, both handsets have to be within a 3G area with a good strong signal, no blackspots and no dropouts. That just doesn't work in the real world. Not even on the iPhone, Android, WP7, Symbian or WebOS.

Mr.Rent 2011-03-16 12:14

Re: Doesnt n900 support 3G video calls ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tswindell (Post 968839)
Really? Show me a modern handset for 50 USD that has 3G video calling please, proper retail cost.

72 euros

http://www.pixmania.com/it/it/638961...ui&from=kelkoo



Quote:

Originally Posted by tswindell (Post 968839)
Actually, there are plenty of reasons, technical/logical & commercial as to why the N900 doesn't have 3G video calling.

In a related note, having video calling through skype is a much better idea, not just because of quality and cost. But also more people use skype for video calling than 3G, from what I can tell.

it depends of the place you live, not in italy, we are backward(?) :)
and very few people stay online with their brand new smartphone with skype open.

but my problem is mostly about 3 italy communication, it was not clear.

bye
Mr. Rent

tswindell 2011-03-16 12:24

Re: Doesnt n900 support 3G video calls ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr.Rent (Post 968876)

That's not retail cost, that's some bargain store website. You could probably find an N95 for cheaper than that on ebay, but that isn't the point is it.

My point is, despite people *****ing about it, no one except a very tiny consumer base use 3G video calling. The OP is just complaining for the sake of it, he probably doesn't even care about video calling, he's probably more pissed that he feels he bought the wrong thing. And rather than take responsibility for his own actions, like a lot of end user types on this forum, he's venting in yet another duplicate thread.

Thanks again, move along.

nicholes 2011-03-16 13:06

Re: Doesnt n900 support 3G video calls ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by vkv.raju (Post 968830)
I don't know about the rates at your place but when 3G was introduced in India, my prepaid plan offered video calls at 50p per minute. Same as the voice call rates. And even after 1 year, I think the rates are still the same.

50p = 0.5 INR and 1$ = 45 INR.

me too indian and missing video call because it is same rates as voice calls!

udaychaitanya16 2011-03-16 16:08

Re: Doesnt n900 support 3G video calls ?
 
@tswindell
1.since you asked him he came up with something
2.Threads will be growing if some problem is there.I believe most of the people knew that they cant make 3g video call when they bought it.some where in this forum it was said that Nokia has FM receiving hardware even when there was no such software.I have been waiting for that one day Nokia would care 3G video calling lovers.
3.There is no reason why somebody must be angry on someone just because they asked a basic question.Afterall they are asking NOKIA.
4.BTW i love columbus .Its great

raaj13 2011-03-16 16:29

Re: Doesnt n900 support 3G video calls ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by vkv.raju (Post 968830)
I don't know about the rates at your place but when 3G was introduced in India, my prepaid plan offered video calls at 50p per minute. Same as the voice call rates. And even after 1 year, I think the rates are still the same.

50p = 0.5 INR and 1$ = 45 INR.

The quality is what that matters in video call. Even with such low vga front camera in any 3G phone the video sluters.
I have tried Bsnl 3G,Tata docomo,Airtel 3G and all doen't have good video call.Haven't tried vodafone though.
Maybe in Metro cities +few other cities they offer good quality video call but not everywhere.
Airtel is what disappointed me most.

teh 2011-03-16 16:29

Re: Doesnt n900 support 3G video calls ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by udaychaitanya16 (Post 969023)
@tswindell
1.since you asked him he came up with something
2.Threads will be growing if some problem is there.I believe most of the people knew that they cant make 3g video call when they bought it.some where in this forum it was said that Nokia has FM receiving hardware even when there was no such software.I have been waiting for that one day Nokia would care 3G video calling lovers.
3.There is no reason why somebody must be angry on someone just because they asked a basic question.Afterall they are asking NOKIA.
4.BTW i love columbus .Its great

What are you on about? The N900 has built in FM receiver and transmitter...

raaj13 2011-03-16 16:35

Re: Doesnt n900 support 3G video calls ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by udaychaitanya16 (Post 969023)
@tswindell
1.since you asked him he came up with something
2.Threads will be growing if some problem is there.I believe most of the people knew that they cant make 3g video call when they bought it.some where in this forum it was said that Nokia has FM receiving hardware even when there was no such software.I have been waiting for that one day Nokia would care 3G video calling lovers.
3.There is no reason why somebody must be angry on someone just because they asked a basic question.Afterall they are asking NOKIA.
4.BTW i love columbus .Its great

1.You never tried FM radio I assume.There is Fm radio for N900.just install it.
2.We not angry but we are fed up of these useless post being posted every week and sometimed even on same day. There is SEARCH button on top so use it as it says in general guide "Read before posting".

Mentalist Traceur 2011-03-16 16:57

Re: Doesnt n900 support 3G video calls ?
 
Depending on where the phone is selling, video calling might just be downright impossible. Until I got the N900 I didn't even really know there was such a thing as video calling already available on Symbian phones - why? Because it's so not-supported or not-used in the USA that we just don't see it here. At least in all the circles I've interacted with, which is more along the average 'dumb-phone' public.

Now places like India might be nice enough to offer them at reasonable rates, which is nice to hear - and I think they should have included the features as well - but on the other hand, look at the N900 release originally - it, if I recall correctly, came out delayed, much like most Nokia high-end products lately. If they had taken the time to add another video calling feature, it would've been delayed even longer and people would still hate them for it, and god forbid it was at all buggy, or people would ***** about how "they had all this time and couldn't get it right" or whatever. We know Nokia was fragmented internally, with dev teams internally that weren't necessarily competing per se, but had limited resources between them to get things done.

Yes it'd be nice to have video calling. But we have video chat, which works over 3G too, and unlike video calling, in a large portion of the world can be used cheaper and with more people than video calling per se.

vi_ 2011-03-16 17:10

Re: Doesnt n900 support 3G video calls ?
 
yes, it doesn't support 3g video calls.

khuong 2011-03-16 17:13

Re: Doesnt n900 support 3G video calls ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by redscorpionkiller (Post 968683)
its now been 7 months that i have my n900 & to the shock that i just now came to know that n900 does not support 3G video call ?
WTF ? this is a crap phone then !! i hate u nokia for this ,,, idiots !!!

Wow, took 7 months to find out who is idot...lol..
I wonder if anyone actually has been walking around using video call, even in japan people has video call capability on mobile devices way long before the rest of the world still don't use it.

redscorpionkiller 2011-03-18 19:06

Re: Doesnt n900 support 3G video calls ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bandora (Post 968697)
I loled @ your post..

he he am worried abt my n900 now !!

redscorpionkiller 2011-03-18 19:09

Re: Doesnt n900 support 3G video calls ?
 
guys guys i went thro all the specs of this phone and since it has a front cam i thought it supports 3G video calls ,,,

even in nokia website they didnt mention that it doesnt support 3G video calls :( :(

jedi 2011-03-18 19:39

Re: Doesnt n900 support 3G video calls ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by redscorpionkiller (Post 970514)
even in nokia website they didnt mention that it doesnt support 3G video calls :( :(

To be honest, that's not really surprising. Have you ever seen any adverts for products which advertise what it doesn't have?!

:)

redscorpionkiller 2011-03-18 19:43

Re: Doesnt n900 support 3G video calls ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jedi (Post 970545)
To be honest, that's not really surprising. Have you ever seen any adverts for products which advertise what it doesn't have?!

:)

Yup bro but i was confused with the front cam thing :( :(

jo21 2011-03-18 19:54

Re: Doesnt n900 support 3G video calls ?
 
the problem isnt the handset

rather nokia said it would support the software until it got features it phones had. features may not many people use but its features not any other brand have.

nokia failed n900, will fail WP7
thankfully n900 have good comunity sadly some parts of the software are closed.

redscorpionkiller 2011-03-18 20:05

Re: Doesnt n900 support 3G video calls ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jo21 (Post 970556)
the problem isnt the handset

rather nokia said it would support the software until it got features it phones had. features may not many people use but its features not any other brand have.

nokia failed n900, will fail WP7
thankfully n900 have good comunity sadly some parts of the software are closed.

yeah dude ,,,, i never complained abt the n900 ,,, its still a great machine ,,,, i am complaining abt the developer nokia !!!!

thecursedfly 2011-03-18 20:16

Re: Doesnt n900 support 3G video calls ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by redscorpionkiller (Post 970561)
i never complained abt the n900 ,,,

Quote:

Originally Posted by redscorpionkiller (Post 968683)
WTF ? this is a crap phone then !!

oh wait... :/

usually a front camera means video calls are possible; but not on the N900, its software isn't developed with a complete-phone experience in mind (or they lacked time/resources).

redscorpionkiller 2011-03-18 20:16

Re: Doesnt n900 support 3G video calls ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by khuong (Post 969057)
Wow, took 7 months to find out who is idot...lol..
I wonder if anyone actually has been walking around using video call, even in japan people has video call capability on mobile devices way long before the rest of the world still don't use it.

he he ,,, bro i thought the world is using video calls than just voice calls :D :P i am from india and they have jus now launched 3G here :D :P :)

redscorpionkiller 2011-03-18 20:18

Re: Doesnt n900 support 3G video calls ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by thecursedfly (Post 970565)
oh wait... :/

usually a front camera means video calls are possible; but not on the N900, its software isn't developed with a complete-phone experience in mind (or they lacked time/resources).

dude i guess nokia lacked time to add that feature in n900 ,,,, cos the n8 was launched immediately after n900 which has a 3G video call support which is also from nokia !!! :( :(

thecursedfly 2011-03-18 20:27

Re: Doesnt n900 support 3G video calls ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by redscorpionkiller (Post 970567)
dude i guess nokia lacked time to add that feature in n900 ,,,, cos the n8 was launched immediately after n900 which has a 3G video call support which is also from nokia !!! :( :(

You're comparing apples with oranges....

N8: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Symbian
N900: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maemo

redscorpionkiller 2011-03-18 20:31

Re: Doesnt n900 support 3G video calls ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by thecursedfly (Post 970573)
You're comparing apples with oranges....

N8: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Symbian
N900: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maemo

symbian yucks at all time :D :P :) lawlz i went to nokia care for the first time to flash my n900 & really happy to see a n8 user coming in for the 3-4th time with a problem :D :P :)

JadeH 2011-03-19 01:17

Re: Doesnt n900 support 3G video calls ?
 
I had phones that supported 3G video calls before... never used it once, I don't see what the deal is

redscorpionkiller 2011-03-20 05:30

Re: Doesnt n900 support 3G video calls ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JadeH (Post 970695)
I had phones that supported 3G video calls before... never used it once, I don't see what the deal is

i guess u must try using it once dude :D :)

arora.rohan 2011-03-20 05:39

Re: Doesnt n900 support 3G video calls ?
 
and how would you know its good? ^
afaik 3G has just come in india... :P :D

acvetkov 2011-03-20 05:41

Re: Doesnt n900 support 3G video calls ?
 
why even threds like this exist... there should be go read the specification and lock...

redscorpionkiller 2011-03-20 05:47

Re: Doesnt n900 support 3G video calls ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by arora.rohan (Post 971410)
and how would you know its good? ^
afaik 3G has just come in india... :P :D

my friend works in vodafone India and he was in the office when they made 3G video call testing :)

redscorpionkiller 2011-03-20 05:49

Re: Doesnt n900 support 3G video calls ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by acvetkov (Post 971411)
why even threds like this exist... there should be go read the specification and lock...

i have read the all the specs and made a clear research on the phone b4 buying it ,,,, but not even in any website it was clearly mention that this phone doesnt support such a function ,,,

even in nokia india website too it wasnt mentioned :(

redscorpionkiller 2011-03-20 05:50

Re: Doesnt n900 support 3G video calls ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by acvetkov (Post 971411)
why even threds like this exist... there should be go read the specification and lock...

if u dont like to comment on such threads then simply step aside dude :D :P


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