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diegofigueroa 2011-03-29 14:55

Firefox 4 Mobile: Release Today
 
Firefox 4 for mobiles is being release today, according to Firefox Twitter account.

https://twitter.com/#!/firefox/status/52743912946798592

abill_uk 2011-03-29 14:59

Re: Firefox 4 Mobile: Release Today
 
Here we go again, hey are you in that prison the yanks set up? lol.

ToJa92 2011-03-29 15:21

Re: Firefox 4 Mobile: Release Today
 
...and so it's released. Can be found at their site: http://firefox.com/m

EDIT: They've done something wrong this release, it's pretty damn fast. There's still some lockups(like while loading 9 tabs at once), but generally it's nice.

abill_uk 2011-03-29 15:29

Re: Firefox 4 Mobile: Release Today
 
GODDAMIT he's right !!!!.

daperl 2011-03-29 15:31

Re: Firefox 4 Mobile: Release Today
 
This is a softlink to RC1.

Nothing to see here.

abill_uk 2011-03-29 15:34

Re: Firefox 4 Mobile: Release Today
 
Go to the link Toja92 pointed out, it works.

daperl 2011-03-29 15:41

Re: Firefox 4 Mobile: Release Today
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by abill_uk (Post 977864)
Go to the link Toja92 pointed out, it works.

Go here:

http://moff.mozilla.com/4.0rc1/maemo...el/Release.gpg

and here:

http://moff.mozilla.com/latest/maemo...el/Release.gpg

Same values.

Again, for those who are running RC1, nothing to see here.

Alfred 2011-03-29 16:25

Re: Firefox 4 Mobile: Release Today
 
I've followed your link guys
Quote:

...and so it's released. Can be found at their site: http://firefox.com/m
and as said
Quote:

Again, for those who are running RC1, nothing to see here.
it's just a beta release for public. They didn't even change the name from fennec to firefox.

khuong 2011-03-29 17:10

Re: Firefox 4 Mobile: Release Today
 
nothing is comparable to microb browser, IMO. I tried all of them out there and just end up un-installing them, now i just stop trying..:)

MicroB browser is the best, it handles all websites you throw at it including Banking websites.

videohese 2011-03-29 17:31

Re: Firefox 4 Mobile: Release Today
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by khuong (Post 977902)
MicroB browser is the best

yeah, so true. hollow me when it gets beaten.

diegofigueroa 2011-03-29 20:42

Re: Firefox 4 Mobile: Release Today
 
You're right, its better than previous versions, but it's not MicroB, however we have another not-that-bad alternative now.

TheLongshot 2011-03-29 21:02

Re: Firefox 4 Mobile: Release Today
 
I have had MicroB choke on some web sites. For example, it doesn't like Verizon's new web mail. (Well, nothing really does)

rantom 2011-03-29 21:09

Re: Firefox 4 Mobile: Release Today
 
Blah. I've had it with Mozilla and Firefox in general. The latest stable one, that they provided to us, was pos. Laggy, unresponsive, resource-hogging pos, if we're specific. If I recall right it didn't even have portrait-mode (though that might've been fixed later on) and no keyboard.

And yes, I've tested this new one, it is like that as well.

Thankfully there's still Opera, which is ironically better in beta than what Fx is in stable. :D

rm53 2011-03-29 21:09

Re: Firefox 4 Mobile: Release Today
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Alfred (Post 977886)
I've followed your link guys
and as said it's just a beta release for public. They didn't even change the name from fennec to firefox.

if you see "Fennec" you installed the wrong version.
The correct one is named Firefox 4.

Parb 2011-03-29 21:35

Re: Firefox 4 Mobile: Release Today
 
The link at http://firefox.com/m attempts to install Firefox 1.1. What's up with that?

stlpaul 2011-03-29 21:43

Re: Firefox 4 Mobile: Release Today
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Parb (Post 978052)
The link at http://firefox.com/m attempts to install Firefox 1.1. What's up with that?

There was a problem where if you ever installed Firefox from Ovi, then you can only get the Ovi version from there onward. Maybe that's happened to you? You can perhaps try disabling the Ovi repository and uninstalled Fennec/Firefox first, to see if that makes a difference.

travla 2011-03-29 22:36

Re: Firefox 4 Mobile: Release Today
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by stlpaul (Post 978056)
There was a problem where if you ever installed Firefox from Ovi, then you can only get the Ovi version from there onward. Maybe that's happened to you? You can perhaps try disabling the Ovi repository and uninstalled Fennec/Firefox first, to see if that makes a difference.

Yes, that is definitely what is happening, and I can confirm that disabling Ovi just throws an error that fennec can't be found. Best way is to follow the link below and save the deb to your device, and install (assuming you've already uninstalled any beta/RCs):

http://moff.mozilla.com/latest/maemo.../binary-armel/

lancewex 2011-03-29 22:40

Re: Firefox 4 Mobile: Release Today
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by khuong (Post 977902)
nothing is comparable to microb browser, IMO. I tried all of them out there and just end up un-installing them, now i just stop trying..:)

MicroB browser is the best, it handles all websites you throw at it including Banking websites.

I agree. Mostly. MicroB does Everything better, except for the reflow of text. It's the only reason I ever use another browser.

JamesBond@ge 2011-03-29 22:50

Re: Firefox 4 Mobile: Release Today
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by khuong (Post 977902)
nothing is comparable to microb browser, IMO. I tried all of them out there and just end up un-installing them, now i just stop trying..:)

MicroB browser is the best, it handles all websites you throw at it including Banking websites.

True that.

And whats that stupid zooming thing that happens with FF when you go to enter text in a box? I can't bear that, it normally takes about 2 seconds to zoom as well.

Firefox Sync was the only selling point for me. That was great....until it stopped working altogether.

sondjata 2011-03-29 23:05

Re: Firefox 4 Mobile: Release Today
 
Of course Maemo 4 compatibility is gone.

rotoflex 2011-03-30 00:19

Re: Firefox 4 Mobile: Release Today
 
A shortcut icon is apparently not included. It's using the generic blue square. Speed seems on a par with 1.1

travla 2011-03-30 01:20

Re: Firefox 4 Mobile: Release Today
 
Shortcut will appear after a reboot.

Also, it looks like it has made it on to Ovi Store too:

http://store.ovi.com/content/26002?c...a=applications

abill_uk 2011-03-30 01:31

Re: Firefox 4 Mobile: Release Today
 
Ah this is bloody crazy, can they not get nowt right blimy.

pusak gaoq 2011-03-30 03:41

Re: Firefox 4 Mobile: Release Today
 
i have install this firefox 4 by upgrading the beta version but still the latest one is called fennec on my n900...

as i see the installation log i see...

fennec 4.0~beta 5 replaced by fennec 4.0....

tested the latest version n yes far more faster than beta....

between microB-firefox-opera....well there all have they own advantage...it depend to the user to use which one they prefer the most....

Dancairo 2011-03-30 06:41

Re: Firefox 4 Mobile: Release Today
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by abill_uk (Post 978143)
Ah this is bloody crazy, can they not get nowt right blimy.

Good morning Mr abill...
Does this mean that they have got it right? as in "not get nowt"..if I were you I'd steer clear of northern. ;-)

n900ak 2011-03-30 07:02

Re: Firefox 4 Mobile: Release Today
 
Does this support flash???If not, then MicroB is still the best bet and Opera next to it.....

JamesDownWell 2011-03-30 13:23

Re: Firefox 4 Mobile: Release Today
 
Installed through terminal and version showing up as 4.0b13-pre is this correct?

mbrubeck 2011-03-30 15:01

Re: Firefox 4 Mobile: Release Today
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JamesDownWell (Post 978506)
Installed through terminal and version showing up as 4.0b13-pre is this correct?

Yes, this is the latest version. (If you go to about:firefox it should say 4.0.)

Quote:

Originally Posted by n900ak
Does this support flash???If not, then MicroB is still the best bet and Opera next to it.....

To enable flash, follow the instructions here: https://support.mozilla.com/en-US/questions/799519

Pigro 2011-03-30 15:32

Re: Firefox 4 Mobile: Release Today
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by travla (Post 978078)
Yes, that is definitely what is happening, and I can confirm that disabling Ovi just throws an error that fennec can't be found. Best way is to follow the link below and save the deb to your device, and install (assuming you've already uninstalled any beta/RCs):

http://moff.mozilla.com/latest/maemo.../binary-armel/

yep, for once I'm forced to agree with abill_uk, it's incredible that ovi/mozilla can have made it so hard to get the new version of firefox installed on the phone (in my case anyway).

I already had firefox 1.1 installed (got it from OVI). I also had the ovi & mozilla repos enabled, from when I did that install. Got no indication of any updates available, so when I saw the news of V4 on "The Register" today, I followed the link to the mozilla website and clicked on the maemo download. This added a new mozilla repo, and then tried to install v1.1 (again) for some reason, so I cancelled.

I then remembered that I'd originally installed via OVI. I went to OVI store and checked firefox - sure enough, it is now offering "Firefox 4 for Maemo". I clicked to download it and this brought up app manager - but did nothing further. I then uninstalled my existing ff and tried again and this time it offered to install firefox 1.1 (again). I then disabled the OVI repo and the old mozilla repo, and tried to download via the mozilla download link again - but still no joy ... after getting the "mising package" for fennec, I re-enabled the ovi repo and yet again got offered v1.1.

I finally found the V4 .deb on the mozilla website (as per Travla's link), downloaded that and it installed fine.

Reckon I wasted about two hours farting around with the app catalogs, and removal/install attempts in the ever-speedy App Manager. grrr.

Finally fired up the new firefox browser only to find it is at best "meh", particualrly after having played with Opera 11 for a couple of weeks. Sooo not worth the effort I'm afraid, it starts so slowly that I lost the will to live explore. Will bno doubt give it a proper try once I'm less p!$$ed off but for now sync is the only advantage I can see ... and that ain't enough for me to fire it up on a regular basis :-(

Alfred 2011-03-30 18:10

Re: Firefox 4 Mobile: Release Today
 
So i am using right now the latest (today's) beta and was trying to do mod the serach engines, like it's said here But that doesn't work. Have anybody tried this yet. If yes, is there any solution to that problem?

The Wizard of Huz 2011-03-30 21:47

Re: Firefox 4 Mobile: Release Today
 
Why don't they put it in the normal repositories ? Why all this downloading through their website?

kwurk 2011-03-31 04:15

Re: Firefox 4 Mobile: Release Today
 
Mozilla does this because they know us N900 users are command line junkies who will compile code from last night's CVS tarball, grab the bleeding-edge versions of obscure libraries, and upgrade the kernel with special patches just to have the latest and greatest program running on their DIY hacker device.

abill_uk 2011-03-31 04:25

Re: Firefox 4 Mobile: Release Today
 
Hang on here we are talking about Mozilla right and as it is supposed to be a MOBILE version of firefox then it surely would be designed for ALL mobile devices not just the N900 soooo why have they not got it right? after all they are not exactly new to this lets face it !.

My comments still stand and especially for noobs but also for techies alike it would be more realistic if Mozilla at least made a true MOBILE version instead of trying to be clever and leave components that hog the search engine even before it gets off the ground and decides to give a search routine !.

abill_uk 2011-03-31 04:28

Re: Firefox 4 Mobile: Release Today
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dancairo (Post 978226)
Good morning Mr abill...
Does this mean that they have got it right? as in "not get nowt"..if I were you I'd steer clear of northern. ;-)

HAHA dan you seem to know it is northern lingo but for your benefit "nowt" is short for nothing. ;)

PS it is actually taking the peee out of Mozilla so try not to look too deep into words that are "lingo (slang)".

Patroclo 2011-04-03 22:35

Re: Firefox 4 Mobile: Release Today
 
Could someone explain to me why I can just install fennec 1.1? I just tried 5 minutes ago, and still I have /opt/mozilla/fennec1.1.
Could it be because I am not from US?

mrcrangle 2011-04-03 23:02

Re: Firefox 4 Mobile: Release Today
 
it's slow and clunky on my n900...meh:/

Patroclo 2011-04-03 23:45

Re: Firefox 4 Mobile: Release Today
 
I need to understand if I am the only user who cannot install it. Both firefox.com/m and ovi store are giving me fennec 1.1.
I saved on disk fennec 4.0 from http://moff.mozilla.com/latest/maemo/multi/ and it doesn't work. I just see grey on top of the screen, grey on the left and white in the rest of the screen.
Can you exxplain to me? Is my phone broken? Shoul I reflash it?
Thanks.

alice71460 2011-04-05 16:44

Re: Firefox 4 Mobile: Release Today
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Patroclo (Post 981322)
I need to understand if I am the only user who cannot install it. Both firefox.com/m and ovi store are giving me fennec 1.1.
I saved on disk fennec 4.0 from http://moff.mozilla.com/latest/maemo/multi/ and it doesn't work. I just see grey on top of the screen, grey on the left and white in the rest of the screen.
Can you exxplain to me? Is my phone broken? Shoul I reflash it?
Thanks.

I'm having the same problem. I uninstalled it, disabled the Ovi repository, downloaded and installed from http://moff.mozilla.com/latest/maemo.../binary-armel/.

I still just get the gray/white screen. The menu bar is missing. The button by the address bar brings up a drop-down menu, but nothing works. Have to end task as the close button does not work.

I am wondering if I need to install from the command line, if this will keep the built-in app manager from doing the install. I try to avoid it like the plague, I use faster app manager.

Oh well, I guess it's time to check out the Opera mobile version then. *sigh*

Reffyyyy 2011-04-05 16:46

Re: Firefox 4 Mobile: Release Today
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by abill_uk (Post 978927)
HAHA dan you seem to know it is northern lingo but for your benefit "nowt" is short for nothing. ;)

PS it is actually taking the peee out of Mozilla so try not to look too deep into words that are "lingo (slang)".

I think he was referring to your double negative.

Turkishflavor 2011-04-05 17:38

Re: Firefox 4 Mobile: Release Today
 
firefox sucks. opera rulez.


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