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IcerC 2007-07-02 15:24

Can I make the 770 more iphone like.
 
Is their a custom OS out there?

A way to make it more finger driven, less stylus?


I currently have os2006 on my 770.

I found the large keyboard the other day which is nice, but it doesn't always come up(I used the rocker key for it and still sometimes doesn't)

SeRi@lDiE 2007-07-02 15:34

Re: Can I make the 770 more iphone like.
 
No.
Buy a iPhone.
:P

paulh 2007-07-02 16:44

Re: Can I make the 770 more iphone like.
 
I've not tried it myself, but the OS2007 Hacker Edition probably gives you more of the "thumb control" features of the 800 (large menus when you use a finger, etc.) Beware that you'll lose some existing functionality (e.g. video codec support).

Some individual apps are built to stylus-free, such as the Canola media player. The Quiver image viewer (recently mentioned here) is pretty cool to play with, too, if you just want to see a smooth, clean UI (although it does include the standard tiny toolbar).

paulh 2007-07-02 16:52

Re: Can I make the 770 more iphone like.
 
Oh, and install Gizmo Project. Then if you have a wifi connection, you can actually make calls too!

phi 2007-07-02 17:30

Re: Can I make the 770 more iphone like.
 
if you're looking for wiz bang eye candy and finger gestures, your outta luck.

jolo 2007-07-02 17:38

Re: Can I make the 770 more iphone like.
 
whaddabout Canola? That gives you a bit of the iPhone flava.

bnk1999 2007-07-02 17:43

Re: Can I make the 770 more iphone like.
 
Short answer No.

Or you can buy an N800 and pray for Skype & upgraded software to be good.

But I would suggest that you just buy an iPhone. That way you will be satisfied.

robbh66 2007-07-02 20:11

Re: Can I make the 770 more iphone like.
 
The iphone has a hell of a lot more software running it as well as nearly 3x the processor power- there's no way you're going to get its UI and finger inputs (which is where a part of all that software and extra horsepower come in) in the 770-ever.

With that said, you're never going to install applications on the iPhone- unless apple does a reversal on it's current stand.

They're two different products aimed at two different markets with an overlap of a few features.

phi 2007-07-02 20:20

Re: Can I make the 770 more iphone like.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jolo (Post 55645)
whaddabout Canola? That gives you a bit of the iPhone flava.

canola is not a system wide UI replacement...so no.

Slakker 2007-07-02 23:57

Re: Can I make the 770 more iphone like.
 
I do think(hope?) that in time there will be at least one truly open source solution for the 770's Operating System(nothing iPhone-ish, though) While I don't expect Nokia necessarily to give the community total freedom in developing the OS further, I can't see how it'd hurt them to open it up quite a bit more than it is right now.

I also have these crazy dreams that sooner or later someone with an approximate ton-load of coding knowledge will take an interest to break open just exactly what it is that needs to be done to work out an entirely new system for the 770.

marjamr 2007-07-03 02:22

Re: Can I make the 770 more iphone like.
 
I'm a real Apple fanatic. Been using Apples since 1988. I've had eight Apple computers, three iPods, four airport base stations and accessories. I really liked the looks of the iPhone and mac OSX is the greatest operationg system( I have one Dell PC with windoz XP on it and I can't undrstand how anyone can stomach a Windoz OS.)
That all said, I passed on the iPhone and bought the N800 instead. Why? I already have a Razr with Verizon service. I don't want to go with AT&T. I really like the WiFi feature of the N800. i can use my home network to browse the internet and I can't believe all the open networks I can find just traveling around my home town area. Also the N800 connects flwlessly to my Razr via BT for email and browsing(even though at a slow 14400 bps.)
Hey, I even put the OSX theme on the N800. Now it looks like a Mac too. Maybe an iPhone later if Verizon gets it but for now the N800 is pretty cool.

IcerC 2007-07-03 05:40

Re: Can I make the 770 more iphone like.
 
Cool.

I don't want an iphone because of the phone part. I'll wait a bit for the iphone minus phone.

I just hate having to take out the stylus to do certain things... Getting better with my finger nails, but still.

Ill try out those programs.

The alarm clock is crap, any other option for that?
Also a music timer option?

Slakker 2007-07-03 05:41

Re: Can I make the 770 more iphone like.
 
I was under the impression that the iPhone was going to be absolutely exclusive to Cingular (now AT&T.)

benny1967 2007-07-03 07:44

Re: Can I make the 770 more iphone like.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by IcerC (Post 55626)
A way to make it more finger driven, less stylus?


:D I always get aggressive when people touch the screen of my 770 with their fingers instead of the stylus. i'm tired of cleaning it all the time - nothing leaves more dirt on such a surface than fingertips.

also, a "finger-driven" user interface wastes precious space... you simply need larger controls for fingers. see the size of the full screen keyboard and compare it to the normal keyboard for use with the stylus. I wouldn't want a whole device crippled by thumb-sized controls.

Luna 2007-07-03 12:39

Re: Can I make the 770 more iphone like.
 
benny1967,
have you noticed the techniques in the iPhone that help to combat that proble of wasted space? It uses an iTap type of strategy to enlarge the hotspot for a particular key so that the keyboard can stay smaller. We could do the same with the ITs if given the sources...


I think UKMP is a perfect example of how the n770 can perform like an iPhone With a few snazzy keyboard and ui enhancements that are within the realm of the 770s cpu (most of what I've seen of the iPhone is), I cannot see why the ITs cannot give a formidable fight against the iPhone_minus the builtin phone_

weezedog 2007-07-05 20:09

Re: Can I make the 770 more iphone like.
 
If you want a more finger-driven interface, perhaps you should consider something more extreme, say "Edward Stylus-Hands"?
They do make a stylus ring, that makes your fingertip a stylus.

http://store01.prostores.com/truetip...fs_svt_200.jpg

Here's a finger stylus comparision review.

Slakker 2007-07-06 01:13

Re: Can I make the 770 more iphone like.
 
I need 9 of those so that I can type like the big boys :)
(I only space bar with my right thumb...'cause using two thumbs is a waste of time.)

paulh 2007-07-06 04:09

Re: Can I make the 770 more iphone like.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by weezedog (Post 56720)
If you want a more finger-driven interface, perhaps you should consider something more extreme, say "Edward Stylus-Hands"?
They do make a stylus ring, that makes your fingertip a stylus.

That reminds me, I'm curious: people refer to using thumb or finger, but I find it easier to use my fingernail for anything but very large buttons (e.g. for menus.), both on my 770 and my PDA. It's more precise and you seem to need less pressure than a fingertip.

Or is it just me?

IcerC 2007-07-08 06:34

Re: Can I make the 770 more iphone like.
 
I like the idea of pulling this out and finger tapping more easily. Beats: sliding cover up a hair, getting out stylus, sliding cover up again, hold small crappy stylus on bumpy bus etc;

I used the stylus and made a scratch right down the middle... I didn't press hard, touched and dragged real nice like. The stylus was just at the perfect angle I guess(or made wrong thus having a sharp tip)

Added a screen cover now and use my finger nails.

Karel Jansens 2007-07-08 10:35

Re: Can I make the 770 more iphone like.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by IcerC (Post 57784)
I like the idea of pulling this out and finger tapping more easily. Beats: sliding cover up a hair, getting out stylus, sliding cover up again, hold small crappy stylus on bumpy bus etc;

I used the stylus and made a scratch right down the middle... I didn't press hard, touched and dragged real nice like. The stylus was just at the perfect angle I guess(or made wrong thus having a sharp tip)

Added a screen cover now and use my finger nails.

This is usually caused by a grain of dust or sand that got embedded in the tip.

Being an old Newtoneer, I've kept the old Pavlovian reflex of licking the tip of my stylus before putting it to the screen. Don't laugh! My screen is scratch-free.

Seb Per 2007-07-08 10:45

Re: Can I make the 770 more iphone like.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Slakker (Post 56802)
I need 9 of those so that I can type like the big boys :)
(I only space bar with my right thumb...'cause using two thumbs is a waste of time.)

you will rather type like a cheetah, and probably be arrested for terrorist catmaniac behaviour if you leave them on in the bus or at the airport check-in ;-)

Slakker 2007-07-08 15:41

Re: Can I make the 770 more iphone like.
 
Mreow.

That's a risk I'm willing to take.


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