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keflex 2011-04-03 00:31

Repurposing old N900s
 
Hey guys,

My N900's CMT stopped working the other week, and I decided I might as well try something new (Nokia E7) rather than try to fix it. It's a great phone, but a lot of the things it could do really didn't improve my life to any great degree once the novelty factor wore off.

At is stands though, I have a perfectly functional Wi-Fi only N900. What uses could one have for such a device in the home?

jprobichaud 2011-04-03 00:37

Re: Repurposing old N900s
 
I would personally use it as a wireless video-camera and wireless microphone, would you be interested in selling it?

skykooler 2011-04-03 01:12

Re: Repurposing old N900s
 
It can certainly do as much as an iPod Touch - try seeing what people have done with those.

9000 2011-04-03 04:45

Re: Repurposing old N900s
 
Is the GPS still working? Then it could be a good turn-by-turn car navigation system with sygic (or navit but I haven't tried it)

abill_uk 2011-04-03 04:57

Re: Repurposing old N900s
 
The N900 is no way old so i strongly suggest you re-flash both images because 99.9% of people on this forum will think this is soooo sad to read.

MANY people are programming for this device and for you to say what you have said is just not fair on those people.

Pillum 2011-04-03 05:04

Re: Repurposing old N900s
 
what is the CMT?

abill_uk 2011-04-03 05:22

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Pillum (Post 980728)
what is the CMT?

Component Management Tool

droll 2011-04-03 06:14

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sell it off on ebay for dirt cheap. i'll buy it for spare parts :P

zimm 2011-04-03 06:51

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Agreed^^^ Then post link to ebay listing here

keflex 2011-04-03 06:57

Re: Repurposing old N900s
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by abill_uk (Post 980726)
The N900 is no way old so i strongly suggest you re-flash both images because 99.9% of people on this forum will think this is soooo sad to read.

MANY people are programming for this device and for you to say what you have said is just not fair on those people.

http://maemo.org/packages/view/cmt-firmware-rx51/

CMT = cellular modem terminal. My phone can no longer receive any telephone signals, and such is not actually a phone anymore. I actually pointed this out in my first post.

I strongly recommend you understand what you are talking about before commenting.

abill_uk 2011-04-03 07:29

Re: Repurposing old N900s
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by keflex (Post 980778)
http://maemo.org/packages/view/cmt-firmware-rx51/

CMT = cellular modem terminal. My phone can no longer receive any telephone signals, and such is not actually a phone anymore. I actually pointed this out in my first post.

I strongly recommend you understand what you are talking about before commenting.

I can give you a 100 definitions for CMT and the one i used was just one of them.

Maybe the one termed for you is unrepeatable lol.

abill_uk 2011-04-03 07:32

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keflex 2011-04-03 11:44

Re: Repurposing old N900s
 
cool acronyms bro

Anyway, I've been considering using it as a server of some description; perhaps a webDAV server? You know, given the whole "now running a Symbian phone" thing. Realistic expectations?

dumpystig 2011-04-03 11:52

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@ abill_uk

There are probably only two or three of those *CMT= that could possibly be pertinent to the inner workings of a mobile computer/phone device.

xabier 2011-04-03 12:06

Re: Repurposing old N900s
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by keflex (Post 980778)
http://maemo.org/packages/view/cmt-firmware-rx51/

CMT = cellular modem terminal. My phone can no longer receive any telephone signals, and such is not actually a phone anymore. I actually pointed this out in my first post.

I strongly recommend you understand what you are talking about before commenting.

You can get a MIFI and use it outdoors using VOIP for phone functions

humble 2011-04-03 12:13

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PirateBox;)

abill_uk 2011-04-03 12:14

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It is sad to read the thread title as it brings us closer to the thoughts of the N900 is no good as a mobile phone no more when there is so much development ongoing for this device... oh well so sad.

dumpystig 2011-04-03 12:28

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Quote:

Originally Posted by abill_uk (Post 980941)
It is sad to read the thread title as it brings us closer to the thoughts of the N900 is no good as a mobile phone no more when there is so much development ongoing for this device... oh well so sad.

It's obvious to me that the OP is simply saying his device is not a functioning phone any more: not that the N900 (in general) is a lost cause...

MINKIN2 2011-04-03 12:40

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Personally, I would choose to continue using the N900 as a portable games (pandora-esque) machine :)

5spdvl 2011-04-03 12:51

Re: Repurposing old N900s
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by abill_uk (Post 980941)
It is sad to read the thread title as it brings us closer to the thoughts of the N900 is no good as a mobile phone no more when there is so much development ongoing for this device... oh well so sad.

So far, you are the only one to have misunderstood the thread title. I got it, and quoting countless irrelevant acronyms for CMT just makes you look childish.

OP, you'e got a few suggestions there. Do you have a technological gap you could use a wifi N900 to fill? Like a media server, wifi access point, portable gaming, etc.

tHMZ 2011-04-03 12:51

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Watch movies (Blu-ray rips in XViD format, around 1,7GB in size) and since it has UPnP/DLNA and FM transmitter, a great music player. Watching TV-series is also very nice, since 27GB is enough to fill a lot of episodes. 25min comedy shows are 175MB and 50min drama/etc. are 380MB.

peterrt 2011-04-03 12:56

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The n900 makes a very good security pen tester. If you are running a network at home then check out its vulnerability. See http://www.neopwn.com/

stopgap 2011-04-03 13:09

Re: Repurposing old N900s
 
You could install Android and use it as an Android tablet (dual boot of course) - there is such a vast range of software to choose from in the Android Market (free and paid for) which sadly doesn't exist for the N900, the sheer wealth of games alone should keep you entertained for as long as the N900 holds out...

geekgirl74 2011-04-03 13:14

Re: Repurposing old N900s
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by keflex (Post 980778)
http://maemo.org/packages/view/cmt-firmware-rx51/

CMT = cellular modem terminal. My phone can no longer receive any telephone signals, and such is not actually a phone anymore. I actually pointed this out in my first post.

[...]

May I ask, what makes you so sure about it? What tests have you done? Is it possible, that the SIM card holder became lose? Have you already tried if it's the same with another SIM card? Have you tried the SIM in another phone? Have you checked for dust inside? I recently bought a second N900 on Ebay. Everything's fine with it, but it was really dirty inside, so it's not impossible at least... Have you tried reflashing the device? Sorry, if you wrote that somewhere, but I haven't found anything like that yet...

droitwichgas 2011-04-03 14:06

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I was under the impesssion that all N900's were covered by a 24 month, not 12 month warrenty, world wide, have you tried taking it to a Nokia Care Centre for advice?

Failing which how about asking the community for some help as this seems a very unusual problem for the N900?

keflex 2011-04-06 03:15

Re: Repurposing old N900s
 
In the interests of saving my Internet cred, here's what I posted in another thread:

Quote:

Originally Posted by keflex (Post 976855)
Hey guys, just reporting my own experience with this issue in the hope that someone can shed some light on a possible solution. Initially my phone was regularly reporting the No SIM error, then reconnecting soon afterwards. The next day I received this very error, and reboots/battery pulls did not fix the issue.

Since then I have reflashed the eMMC and the OS, however the OS flash hangs at "CMT flashing failed". As a result, I attempted to reinstall the cmt-firmware-rx51 over the top of the existing firmware via xterm. after a reboot this alleviated the situation momentarily, however after another reboot the problem resurfaced. Subsequent reinstalls have not fixed it.

I really don't imagine I would do well with dismantling my phone, but other than sending the phone away for repair (now out of warranty), is there anything else left to try?

After making this post, I spoke to Nokia Care Australia. I already knew my phone was out of warranty (had been purchased as an import, 12 month warranty from retailer) however given that my phone was an import, Nokia Care would not even guarantee that they could fix the phone at all.

I waited a few days and after finding no response on TMO, I purchased a new phone. I consider that to be a reasonable series of events.

Anyway, thanks for the ideas guys. I've got some good stuff out of it and I'll see where I can put the phone to good use. Would be a shame to simply let it gather dust.

abill_uk 2011-04-06 03:34

Re: Repurposing old N900s
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by keflex (Post 980778)
http://maemo.org/packages/view/cmt-firmware-rx51/

CMT = cellular modem terminal. My phone can no longer receive any telephone signals, and such is not actually a phone anymore. I actually pointed this out in my first post.

I strongly recommend you understand what you are talking about before commenting.

Why don't you try to understand your device instead of coming on here saying it has stopped working and want to find another use for it, simple answer surely would be to get it working again?.

abill_uk 2011-04-06 03:38

Re: Repurposing old N900s
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by keflex (Post 982787)
In the interests of saving my Internet cred, here's what I posted in another thread:



After making this post, I spoke to Nokia Care Australia. I already knew my phone was out of warranty (had been purchased as an import, 12 month warranty from retailer) however given that my phone was an import, Nokia Care would not even guarantee that they could fix the phone at all.

I waited a few days and after finding no response on TMO, I purchased a new phone. I consider that to be a reasonable series of events.

Anyway, thanks for the ideas guys. I've got some good stuff out of it and I'll see where I can put the phone to good use. Would be a shame to simply let it gather dust.

Why didn't you give this explanation in the first place then you would have got people at least on the right track! to say someone does not know what they are talking about is silly when they do not know what is wrong in the first place !.

keflex 2011-04-06 04:31

Re: Repurposing old N900s
 
Surely you could just give people the benefit of the doubt? Unless you're simply predisposed to assuming that people are by and large dishonest/stupid. If this is the case, I feel sorry for you.

In any case, you're taking discussion off-topic, it'd be nice if you stopped.

abill_uk 2011-04-06 05:01

Re: Repurposing old N900s
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by keflex (Post 980778)
http://maemo.org/packages/view/cmt-firmware-rx51/

CMT = cellular modem terminal. My phone can no longer receive any telephone signals, and such is not actually a phone anymore. I actually pointed this out in my first post.

I strongly recommend you understand what you are talking about before commenting.

It is because of this post you made and i think i am safe to say i know just a little bit about the N900 !.

You said you want to save your internet cred but your prepared to shoot someone down in flames accusing them of not knowing or understanding what they are talking about, all it took was a proper explanation of your symptoms so yes is is on topic.

PS good luck with your device i hope you can use it better when MeeGo is established by the hard working members of this community, that was my point.

keflex 2011-04-12 07:08

Re: Repurposing old N900s
 
just letting you all know i've found a good use for my N900 after all.

i've mounted a 750gb external hard drive to it, using a USB Y-cable and an external 18000mAh battery. between that, rockbox, and a pair of bh-905is, I have a pretty sweet portable music setup. good times.


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