Nokia E7 running Maemo 5?
 

Is it possible to scrub Symbian ^3 off it and make it a N900 essentially?

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Not In A Millions Years... :-)

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Without going into the technical side of it (something that is both beyond my scope of knowledge and beyond the scope of a forum post), it's not going to happen. Similar questions have been asked regarding MeeGo ports on the MeeGo forums, you'll find some more detailed explanations over there.

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its a shame. Such a great design and hardware specs. But I'm not touching it running symbian, I don't care how purttteee it is.

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Symbian is better OS for this device.
Consider that it is high business class phone, and symbian is rock solid.
While maemo is an "experiment" :).

I have e52 and n900, I would never rely on my n900 for my business activities, no matter how much I love maemo.

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nope. if it is possible, it is under work immediately (meego for N900, android for N900, ......)

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Why would you? It´s N-series and addition to that....

"Don't think about spreadsheets, word processors, file managers, or closed systems. That should put you in the right ballpark to start with."

"Maemo is rough on the edges. It is a bit dangerous. It is open to experiments. It is about community involvement. I want these to stay. I do not like boring cars, either."

http://jaaksi.blogspot.com/2009/11/m...art-of-it.html

E-series is marketed as business device so that´s way to go if you want reliable device.

..edit
Still have to say that rarely this thing reboots and if it does so it´s because of some very experimental stuff. But still lack of professional e-mail/calendar makes it ..well...n-series.

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I've being using N900 for all business and pleasure activities for two years. No problems.. :p

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E7 hardware is MUCH slower than N900's to run Maemo5.
Also, there is no way to get all the drivers for Maemo anyways.

Even though N900 was released back in 2009, its hardware is still competitive.
Also, even now, it's pretty much the only one with 32GB onboard plus MicroSD support.

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And for that I give *THANKS*. That has saved my *** a couple of times for emergency backups.

Ontopic, I doubt E7 can handle Maemo smoothly...

Regards

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Two years? Did you steal a prototype from Nokia or something since it has only been available for 18 months.:p

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I have a N900 yet.
My brother's N900 was stolen and he earn a E7 so I prefere my N900 (for the OS, the apps' and the keyboard) but the E7 have a very cute design!

And it's impossible to put MeeGo or Maemo on E7...

I'm waiting for the N950 with MeeGo, E7 design-like and N900's keyboard (with arrows for AZERTY).

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I bet the good old n97 users would disagree....:cool:

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That also saved my *** as external USB memory several times.
I am using my N900 with 32GB SD card class 4 up to now without problems. Which other smartphone has 64GB total? ;-)

The diverse calendar applications never made any problems
for business for me. I can send my calendar dates as ical files
from Outlook so I do not need that crappy MS/Nokia synchro stuff.

With "Documents to Go" I can even handle Microsoft Office 2007
documents.
I can also use PDF documents, I can scetch new ideas with scetch
application and mypaint, I can sign PDFs with Xournal.
Email works.

So for me nothing is missing for business.

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For me too!

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Probably you're right with 18 mos. Life with N900 has being so easy that I cannot (or don't want) even remember an era without it..;)

But thanks for detailing!

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Did someone call my name?
The N97 was the crappiest device I've ever bought, and the only one I've sold :)

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I am a noob here , since I have an N900 I see any other phone as a toy .

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Why not the otherway around? N900 with Symbian OS lol. Symbian never have any Cortext Processor, always with the lower end processor like Arm11.

If N900 can runs symbian then we could have had better support.

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http://img829.imageshack.us/img829/1...tubemfdoom.png

Bargain! If you're quick, you can buy another one. :p

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This is looking like a nice option (if feasible) now that Nokia are dragging their feet massively wrt n950 :( (some folk are even speculating Q4 now)
Particularly if the rumors are true, and the one Meego phone they release won't be qwerty.

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vodafone rang me yesterday to see if i wanted to upgrade, i explained i was waiting for the n950 and the dude said thats not out till end of the year :(

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did he know in an "internal vodafone" sense or because of what he read on the internetz?

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maybe it's better the N900 successor (for which there isn't an official name yet...) gets a somewhat longer development cycle and eventually comes out more or less free of "birth defects".
despite its being a hacker phone, there is a surprising number of "noobs" who bought the N900 & if NOKIA gets it right, the successor might still get Maemo / MeeGo of the ground.
that's all that might be needed for others like LG or Samsung to jump wagon from ANDroid to MeeGo.

NOKIA knows how to make outstanding HW (N900, of course, but N8 or E7 are here to prove they STILL know) as SW wise.
and except for the 7710 ( :mad: which was a calamity by design :mad: ) i never had in over a dozen years using NOKIAs a phone that didn't do its job, the way it's supposed to. can't blame the N900 for problems resulting from external software, only, maybe, for the limited functionality of Maemo 5. but one has to admit that Maemo 5, WITHIN its limited functionality, works
let's hope Maemo 6 gets it right. and looking @ MeeGo's state right now, you have to admit there still is quite some work to be done :rolleyes:

but i still use my N95 since over 4 yrs en i'm seriously wondering, in case the N900 successor comes w/out a physical keyboard, if a Symbian phone (w/ keyboard AND mSDHC slot) wouldn't be a better alternative... a N7 (E7 with mSDHC) would be perfect.

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Well, If you double the processor speed (currently 680MHZ), double the RAM (currently 256MB), hack Maemo on it, I would buy it, scratch out the E7 and replace it with N950.

EDIT: If only it were that easy!

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Limited functionality? That's the last thing I'd criticize Maemo 5 for. I haven't seen a mobile OS that's any better in that area.

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agreed 100%
the N900 + Maemo probably come closest to a "pocket computer" what we had, so far.
but this is *NOT* the software that was developed by NOKIA for it and from all the added software come issues, which is not exactly what you want from a "phone"
e.g. FireFox mobile... it's slow, but is it really Maemo's fault?
the power of Maemo / MeeGo is in fact the OPEN SOURCE
as ANDroid proves, Linux / GNU is not enough :D
LG seems to have realised that too :eek:

then again, as someone else already posted in this thread, the N900 is not ready to be a "business phone" :rolleyes:
Maemo 6, maybe :p

as a matter of fact, it is obvious that the phone function was grafted in more or less @ last minute. one might even wonder in how far NOKIA added the SIM for the network's sake & that someone suddenly realised, gee, man, we could actually add the phone function too, couldn't we? :rolleyes:

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not only is it not that easy.
it simply won't do
the N900's successor is more or less the last chance for NOKIA to get it right.
so, sorry pal, but WHAT you think simply doesn't matter
Joe and Jane Doe do have to like it, too
rephrase: Joe and Jane Doe do have to like it
period

a mashed up N900 won't do and NOKIA seems to know it
dixit Rich Green: an "elegant hardware"; they wouldn't do that for us, would they? :confused:

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Don't get me wrong, the N900 is a beast, and as far as I'm concerned STILL the most versatile smartphone currently available.

I remember back when I had an N800 how I felt that the only piece missing was the phone part (I lugged the N800 and a phone around), and how happy I was when the N900 came out.

But for business, the Nokia E series phones (at least till the n900 came out, I haven't tested any newer models) win hands down, sorry. Have you ever used one? My VERY old E61 is still in use today (I gave it to a friend), and works flawlessly. If my life depended on receiving a call or even accessing the internet, I'd still prefer the E61 over the N900.

Business is business. I doubt very many CEOs overclock their phones....

Don't get me wrong, the N900 is much better that any E series phone Nokia has made to date. And I wouldn't trade it for anything currently in the market. But I'm not a businessman. It can do the job for business people extremely well - but the E-series does (did?) it even better.

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what apps are u missing on n900 that is running on n8, e7?

we still has later QT than symbian and Symbian Anna will have exactly the same qt libs that we already is running on n900.

and in case of core bugfixes, we have greatest community fixes ever!?

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The Symbian^3 phones could run maemo as the Cortex A8 CPU/GPU combo is clocked at 600Mhz and the Maemo UI is GPU accelerated.

Comparitively, the Symbian^3 devices are clocked at 680Mhz and the Broadcom GPU is more powerful that the SGX in the A8, and as an aside, Symbian^3's UI is GPU accelerated.

In theory, as Maemo is GPU accelerated, it should run better on the 680Mhz+Broadcom GPU combo than the 600Mhz A8+SGX combo.

The SGX530 in the N900 does 14 Million polygons a second and the Broadcom BCM 2727 in Symbian^3 phones does 32 Million polygons per second.

Sure, there are other factors such as the efficiency of either CPU core (A8 v Arm11) but the Symbian^3 hardware as a whole is infact more powerful that the N900 hardware.

I own a N900 since Feb 2010, a N8 since Dec 2010 and my C7 Astound is on the way in the mail. I will say this, the camera abilities of the N8 cannot be matched by any device. You will have to see the intelligent HD digitial zoom in action. You will never look at a cellphone camera the same again.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-vXF3t1qrU

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^ can I has my maemo/meego ported to E7 now, pweeeeeeeeez :)

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Well, the intent of my comment was that the E7 hardware is not sufficently advanced for me to be interested it replacing my n900. Of course you can't go by the the clock speed alone and there are many other advances and features in the E7 that can make it tempting. But for now, I'm happy enough with the n900 to wait untill something significantly better comes along that meets my needs. A big part of that decision is due to the efforts of this community.

But, believe it or not, I did have one good experience that may indicate Nokia cares about its customers (or maybe even me!). About a month after I got my n900 I lost my stylus. Those of you who have had this happen to them know the futility of purchasing one from Nokia. Well, I wrote Nokia a nice email requesting a replacement stylus and how it is good for customer relations to do so in general. I also happen to mention that the N900 manual clearly states that use of any other stylus may void the warranty, so, Nokia should be obligated to at least provide a mechanism to obtain a replacement. Well, Nokia sent me a replacement stylus for free! So perhaps there is hope. Although, not to start any rumors, the employee that sent me the stylus was probably fired once his action came to the attention of his supervisor...

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o, and, btw...
they also need to get IPv6 right, this time. OUT OF THE BOX
might be worth waiting a tad longer for that, no? >¦)
actually, if they don't make it 'til end of the year, not having IP6 simply won't be an option anymore ¦-))))))))))

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oh and @mike.. Apps.. Symbian has many more apps than Maemo.. :S

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has been around somewhat longer, too, hasn't it?
in fact, Symbian has been around for nearly 20 yrs...
even when i bought my 7650, i could download countless Symbian apps.
that was over 8 yrs ago.

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The Symbian of 8 years ago is nothing like today not even Binary compatible.
there was a clean break from S60v2 to s60v3 to put security in place.
btw Symbian LTD was set up up around 1998/99 to build a OS to combats Microsoft rumoured Move into the Mobile OS space to try stop them dominating it like they did on on desktops.
oh the irony how times change :rolleyes:, joined forces with the Company they set out to avoid 13 years ago :D

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from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Symbian#EPOC16
«EPOC16, originally simply named EPOC, was the operating system developed by Psion in the late 1980s and early 1990s for Psion's "SIBO" (SIxteen Bit Organisers) devices.»

from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History...OS_6.0_and_6.1
«The OS was renamed Symbian OS and was envisioned as the base for a new range of smartphones.»

only three years ago, nobody, except in the labs of NOKIA had ever heard the word Maemo.

actually thought yesterday, when i was typing my reply to GameboyRMH... "what a long way we have come since the Psion 5 mx..."

break?
let's assume someone spend a few (dozen?) hours developing an app that runs nicely on, well, let's say S60v2 and there comes NOKIA with s60v3.
you sound like the one who would just say "too bad..."

things may not always be what they seem

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I still have a Psion 5...

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I know it as its roots from the Psion days and Symbian became the Successor, but its hardly the same OS,
From Symbian came a lot of and different operating systems based on Symbian core.