Originally Posted by hhmah (Post 983039)

its not turning on, not sure why.it shows blu light for abt 10 seconds than turn off completely..
i did charge it for a bit and it doesn't show the yellow light when charging.. not sure whts wrong with it

can someone help plz... thankx

Originally Posted by abill_uk (Post 983055)

Not quite enough info there to put a solution to it but the first thing that comes to mind is the usb port and i really want to be wrong here !.

Originally Posted by Switch_ (Post 983065)

Then look on the bright side because you just might be wrong. BME manages the charging of the battery > if the battery has discharged to the point where BME cannot kick in > no charge and no power.

Try to charge the battery in either an external charger or a Nokia 5800. Then try again.

Don't for the sake of all that is good an holy, try to flash your N900 like the numpty above told you to do. It WILL result in a £300 brick.

Originally Posted by ashwin (Post 983087)

i had same problem couple of times ..got battery charged externally and it worked fine

Originally Posted by abill_uk (Post 983060)

What was the last thing you installed? can you give any more info?.

Originally Posted by abill_uk (Post 983068)

The re-flash suggestion at this stage horrified me, my thoughts were that the usb port is not allowing the battery to be charged being the reason it will not turn on.

Even if the battery has fallen below BME detection it will still charge over a long period of time which makes me think it is a usb port problem.

But as Switch_ said you MUST get the battery charged before going any further.

Originally Posted by hhmah (Post 983090)

it was like abt 60%, i was trying to download meego on my memory card, than toke the battery out and put back in, and than every time i turn it on the blu light comes up

Originally Posted by ashwin (Post 983087)

i had same problem couple of times ..got battery charged externally and it worked fine

Originally Posted by hhmah (Post 983095)

it doesnt charge, when i connect it to the computer using usb port, it just trun on and off, i only see the NOKIA writing, and i see the yellow light for abt 5second than turns off and turn on again, just repeating same thing, on and off and the orange light comes for abt 5 seconds and than turn off than trun on etc.


when i charge it using the charger, i only see the NOKIA writing and no orange light

Originally Posted by hhmah (Post 983095)

it doesnt charge, when i connect it to the computer using usb port, it just trun on and off, i only see the NOKIA writing, and i see the yellow light for abt 5second than turns off and turn on again, just repeating same thing, on and off and the orange light comes for abt 5 seconds and than turn off than trun on etc.


when i charge it using the charger, i only see the NOKIA writing and no orange light

Originally Posted by Vasikaran (Post 983127)

Funny to see "abill_uk" thanked this post..! The person is in a problem so it would be better to help him out rather than giving a "thanks: :)...however, coming to the problem - I too faced a similar problem like this, I charged the gadget using external charger for nearly 1-1.30 hours. It repeats the on-off sequence but dont care about it...it will charge. But to bring it to life again I did 'reflash'. Might be this would be your last option if other solutions dont work out.. All the Best. Do let me know :)

Originally Posted by hhmah (Post 983039)

i did charge it for a bit and it doesn't show the yellow light when charging.. not sure whts wrong with it

Originally Posted by Switch_ (Post 983065)

BME manages the charging of the battery > if the battery has discharged to the point where BME cannot kick in > no charge and no power.

Originally Posted by woody14619 (Post 983172)

When you say the yellow light was on, do you mean it was on solid, or it was blinking like a normal charging phase. There's a difference. The solid yellow indicates something very different is going on.

One thing I noted is you said you were installing MeeGo to the uSD card. I assume you loaded a boot loader that allows you to boot off the uSD. Have you tried removing the uSD card? If the uSD card image is corrupt, and it's trying to boot off of it, that could cause this.



Not entirely. There's a fail-safe circuit that will attempt to charge the battery if the BME is unable to kick in. The difference is that the fail-safe just turns the light to a solid yellow on, not blinking like BME. That way you can tell which system is doing it. It will take much longer to charge with the fail-safe system than with BME, but you should be able to unplug/re-power and use BME after about 20 to 30 minutes of fail-safe charging.

Originally Posted by Vasikaran (Post 983127)

Funny to see "abill_uk" thanked this post..! The person is in a problem so it would be better to help him out rather than giving a "thanks: :)...however, coming to the problem - I too faced a similar problem like this, I charged the gadget using external charger for nearly 1-1.30 hours. It repeats the on-off sequence but dont care about it...it will charge. But to bring it to life again I did 'reflash'. Might be this would be your last option if other solutions dont work out.. All the Best. Do let me know :)

Originally Posted by abill_uk (Post 983351)

If the charger does not eventually start to charge the battery and you get the same result from the pc then it is looking more like i said in the beggining that you have a usb port problem, whatever is happening you MUST get that battery charged externally to see if the device will turn on and i suspect it will once you have a charged battery proving the fact it is most probably a detatched usb port.

I asked you what message your pc reports when you plug the usb lead in even though the device is turned off, i am presuming you have Nokia PC Suite installed and the pc should report "Nokia N900 USB device connected in a non compatible USB mode", if you have no message at all then for sure it is a usb port detatchment fault.

Please try what i have said and let us know.

Originally Posted by hhmah (Post 983228)

i see solid yellow for abt 23 seconds with the NOKIA writing on the screen

Originally Posted by abill_uk (Post 983351)

If the charger does not eventually start to charge the battery and you get the same result from the pc then it is looking more like i said in the beggining that you have a usb port problem

Originally Posted by woody14619 (Post 983781)

The solid yellow is the fail-safe system trying to charge it.

Again: You were trying to install MeeGo on micro-SD. Have you removed the micro-SD card? If not, please try that. Another thing to try: Plug the phone in with the battery out, then insert the battery. That should prevent it from booting at all, and allow the stand alone charger to charge it for a while.

From the sound of it, you have probably messed up the boot loader, or the boot loader is trying to load from micro-SD and is getting into a reboot loop. That would prevent it from booting properly, even with a good battery.

If you've tried removing the micro-SD, it may be worth re-flashing the boot loader, and failing that, re-flashing the OS (not EMC). I would do so with a borrowed, fully charged battery though, as you don't want a reflash to be interrupted. A boot loader / kernel only reflash takes about 20 seconds, so that's a good place to start. A full OS reflash will take 5 to 10 minutes an will reset your program settings, but not the data in your "My Documents" area.



The fact that he's consistently getting a yellow light (indicating connection and charging attempt) makes me highly doubt it's a USB port issue. If it were he wouldn't be getting a charging indicator, or any response to plugging it in sometimes. Also, since he has tried it with a fresh battery, and it's behaving exactly the same way, there's little chance it's a USB issue.

It's possible that either his battery was over-discharged and is now toast, or (more likely) he hosed his boot loader when trying to install MeeGo. A simple re-flash will fix the latter, but you want to have a known good/charged battery in place to do that reflash.

Originally Posted by geekgirl74 (Post 983791)

have you already tried only flashing the kernel? you said, you uninstalled powerkernel, maybe you forgot to reinstall the stock kernel?

flasher-3.5 -F <firmware-image> --flash-only=kernel -f -R

where <firmware-image> is the name of the fiasco-image you have chosen, like for example RX-51_2009SE_20.2010.36-2_PR_COMBINED_MR0_ARM.bin

so on my N900 I would have to type:
flasher-3.5 -F RX-51_2009SE_20.2010.36-2_PR_COMBINED_MR0_ARM.bin --flash-only=kernel -f -R

EDIT: damn, should have reflashed the page before posting :D
thanks woody14619, couldn't have said that better :)

Originally Posted by hhmah (Post 983843)

not sure how to refresh it.. i've got window 7..
it says on the internet somewher you cant do it with window 7

Originally Posted by hhmah (Post 983097)

one more thing the last thing i uninstall was Enhanced Linux kernel , than turned it off, and that when the problem appeared

thankx for the help

Originally Posted by fasza2 (Post 983953)

Im supprised nobody asked you this before, but how did you go about uninstalling the Enhanced Linux Kernel? I mean did you use the default App manager(HAM) or did you use the dedicated menu button? If you used HAM than your issue is quite simple and you just need a reflash... cause HAM will not restore your original kernel when you remove the power kernel and you are left with no kernel.
And that you will find out after first reboot.

PS: Don't play with MeeGo just yet and try to read about what you intall on your device hence power user stuff.

Hope that helps:)

Originally Posted by woody14619 (Post 983927)

That hasn't been true in a long while. Worst case, you can boot from a LiveCD from Kubuntu or the like and use Linux to flash the device. There are detailed instructions on the wiki in several places, including this one.

If you're not sure how to flash your device, you really shouldn't be playing with advanced things like MeeGo. MeeGo is in it's very early development stage, and is not usable by end users yet (which any download site for MeeGo or thread here on TMO would tell you).

Worst case you can probably get a Nokia care center to reflash it for you, but they will probably do a full reflash, meaning you'll lose any data stored on the device.

Originally Posted by Chrisboff (Post 984265)

To reflash your n900:

http://wiki.maemo.org/Reflash

When the flasher is searching for the n900, make sure the n900 is off at this stage, then:





Also if you have win7 64 bit see here: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...170#post978170

Appologies if you have already tried this.

Originally Posted by hhmah (Post 984242)

i downloaded Enhanced Linux Kernel from the app manager... then turned the phone off, i though it ganna help with booting between maemo and meego.. i didnt see anychanges so i went back to the file manager and uninstall the Enhanced Linux Kernel. than turned it off....... then after that i tried to turn the phone on but i couldn't..

Originally Posted by hhmah (Post 984354)

thankx for replyin

but when i connect my phone to the computer nothing comes up on the monitor, i dont see anything.. same goes for the phone when i hold the U key..nothing change.. it just show the Nokia sign for abt 20 second than disappear for abt 20seconds than comes back.. repeating same thing over and over

Originally Posted by tele (Post 984464)

make sure to take the battery out. plug the usb. hold "U" key and put battery in.. keep holding the U key!!!!!