N810 - What can it do?
 

I no longer own an n900, but i really miss maemo.

Thinking of getting an N810 to play with, but have a few Q's:

Does it have an apps repo like the N900?

How many apps does it have?

What kinda emulators can it run?

Thanks

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You've owned an N900 and have 274 posts here and you have to ask those questions? Answer them yourself! The N810 is lots of fun. It doesn't make phone calls, though.

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Well I know the N900 a lot, i had that thing doing all sorts of ****.

The N810 is somethnig different to me.

I just wanted to know if the extras-testing and exteas-devel are still the sorta things used and what kinda things can it do wiotyh less power than the N900 (Does it have easy debian etc?)

Thanks

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Yes. You'll see that the N810 is supported here generally the same way as the N900.

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Many of us on this forum are quite content with our N810 and N800's. There is only two things that my N800 cannot do. No Skype with video and I cannot watch NetFlix movies. Other than that, there are apps for just about anything that is needed. Many of the apps that you had on your N900 were originally N800 apps. Just like your N900 there is an app manager that downloads from repositories. Be more specific with your questions.

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Oh thats awesome, plus the N810 is cheaper than the n900, and i must say its quite nice looking.

Does the display support pressure sensing for apps like MyPaint?

Has fennec been ported to it like on the N900?

Oh and hows the browser performance for flash and the likes?

Sorry for all the questions

Thanks,

Paul

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Thanks for the info, ive gone a bit rusty on the maemo world since my n900 died and was replaced with an N8, which in all fairness is a better phone but id rather have the N900 if it was jsut a bit more reliable.

So i think the n810 is right for me, thanks for all the help!

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As you can see from my sig I have the full set. I sometimes reach for the N810 in the house as the larger screen and keyboard make it easier on the eye. It's great for ebooks especially, and xterm work. Also looks classier than the N900

The N800/810 is slower than the N900 obviously - Don't plan on running too many apps simultaneously.

The screen is not as silky sensitive as the N900, and the OS is less finger friendly, and the touch needs to be more precise. I find that it's fine with the stylus though, and much better for me than with a finger.

The OS has some stuff which is better than maemo5 though. Auto-away on the IM presence is one.
Microb works better for me on some websites (my transmission daemon web being one). I dont' use firefox as it uses too much cpu/ram and disk space to install.

Install the CSSU, Telescope, Diablo5 theme, and then Maccruz' Diabloturbo debs and you will find that the device is class though.

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^ thanks for the comprehensive reply, Id love all 4, but alas I dont have the funding to do so!

any good links to check out these repos / read more?

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The default N810 version of Maemo is quite different from the Maemo you're used to, I think you should know that.

One of the advantages of the N810 is that it's better suited for being an ebook reader, though. Bigger screen, and with the advanced backlight applet, you can dim it further down than the N900.

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^ thanks again, that will be handy at night.

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Slow, particularly with multiple tabs. I don't use it. I use MicroB and Opera Mobile (although this can slow down something nasty too if you have too many tabs). And I use mobile sites when I can (see the "Useful URLs" wiki page in my sig).

Slow. I generally avoid this.

The bottom line is that I've used my N810 daily for the past three+ years. But I've carved out a specific niche of what I do with it, and that includes:

• Accessing mobile websites or non-mobile websites if they are simple
• Podcasts (gPodder + Panucci)
• MaemoMapper
• MP3s (MediaBox, Quasar)
• Remote Desktop
• AbiWord & Gnumeric (although you do have Easy Debian for OO.org as well)
• Taking notes with Maemopad+
• DialCentral for Google Voice (mostly text messages)
• Evince for small PDFs. Too many pages & too many graphics and it's too slow for me.
• Lots of little games for the spare minutes here and there, like AisleRiot Solitaire, Tomiku (Sudoku), Sokoban, Anagramarama (anagram game), Mahjong

To see the available apps, go to Downloads on this site and press "OS2008", or go to:
http://maemo.org/downloads/OS2008/

Other tips:

• There is no extras-testing repository.
• No MeeGo and no graphics acceleration. Stskeeps gave up on that one, I think (I don't blame him).
• There is a community SSU. The best feature is rotation support.
• Telescope is a really neat app switcher.
• Check out the Diablo Turbo thread.

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^ Thanks man, will check that out.

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Also important -- there is limited space to install apps on your regular memory. If you really go app crazy, you will want to clone it to a bigger space. The N810 has 2GB of internal memory dedicated to a map program that is no longer supported, so that's a good one to sacrifice (but then you can't use it for Easy Debian as well). Or a removable memory card may work -- not sure.

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You don't need to put easy debian on the internal, it's still good on a fast microSD card. (You need a miniSD adapter, they can be somewhat tricky.)

When I talked about the ebook reading properties, I forgot to say:
The n810 has WAY better idle time. Like, at least a week, probably several.

Although the browsers render web pages well on the N810, you don't want to open too many tabs. It'll hang.

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Other pros and cons...

N810 has proper host mode (like the N8), N900 needs you to launch an app and enable it first, which is more of a faff.

Although N900 has better video capability and will play dvd quality video, I find that the upnp streaming from my media server (mythtv btw) sucks and after a minute it just buffers constantly, so any streaming needs to be converted down, which removes any advantage over the N810.

The N810 has windows file share discovery/browsing built in to the file manager, which is great for browsing and then copying files across. To be fair it does not like password protection. N900 does not have this and needs something like wizard mounter or similar.

The default media player on the N810 sucks - It's slow, and does not support albumart at all - alternatives are Canola, Quasar, and Mediabox

Yes the N810 is slower, but run it in performance mode, and avoid running too many apps together and flash.javascript heavy sites, and it's not far behind a stock N900 most of the time. My N900 gets bogged down as well from time to time.

N810s are seriously cheap on ebay etc for what they offer. Drop a 16gb or 32gb microsd card in, and it rocks.

If you don't need a physical keyboard, GPS, and will not be using it outside, then consider an N800 due to the 2 full size SDHC slots - you can then chuck 64GB in there.

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Also one more thing, does the N810 have any design flaws like the N900's usb port?

Hows the reliability?

Thanks

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No dpad on front like n800, have to open keyboard to get to it.

No space above the keyboard making the top row of keys harder to press.

GPS has never locked for me unless on wifi with a-gps.

I've used mine every day since it was released in late 2007. Replaced the battery a year ago.

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Not really. in many ways the N900 was a retrograde step. I think the N810 is better hardware designwise actually.

the ports (3.5mm phone, 2mm charge, miccrosb) are all along the righthand edge and are all really robust. stand is much much better than the rubbish one on the N900 which is really a joke.
Microusb feels better to me than the N900 but that may be mindgames on my part, being over cautious.

the top edge has the fullscreen, volume, power, and lock controls. all of which are chromed and have a good feel. there is a task switcher key and a back key the left of the screen and a led on the top left corner of the screen whivh is much larger than the N900s..

yes the dpad is hidden, but it hasn't been a pain for me,
GPS is reliable. can struggle to get a lock unless it has a clear view of the sky. NTPD and AGPS help enormously.

the consruction is all metal, and i have dropped mine a couple of times and it just bounced. Only tricky thing is the battery cover latches are a bit fiddley..

the battery is a BP4-L regarded as one of nokias best and is very common and popular= so a replacement if needed wil be easily available. battery life on mine is stellar compared with my 900 but the 900 is always on 3G.

the biggest issue with the N810 is the fact that although it is still a capable machine, very little is still being developed for it. and some stuff like the twitter client now no longer works as the authentication has changed. the satnav app, although very good, has had no map updates for 2 or 3 years and the supplier has closed down.

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Thanks for the help guys.

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http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/MINT-CONDITION...99928980038280

Heres the one I ordered, seem to sell quick, had 6 when I bought mine.

Not a bad price and it's black, making me wonder if they are inported WiMax models?

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the photograph definately appears to be the N810 wimax as they were black, and the std was never black, but silver with anodised blue panels. Wimaxes are fairly rare though. Good price regardless though.

welcome to the club.

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Can't wait for it to arrive

What do you reccomend i do when i get it to make it fast, updated and have all the best stuff?

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i would do the following...

1. install the community SSU
2. install the diabloturbo modules
3. install telescope app launcher
4. install and switch to the diablo5 theme
5. install advanced system UI
6. install openntpd, openssh

They are the apps and updates which wil bring the device as upto date as possible and as close to maemo5 as it can be.

After that, it depends on what you want to do with the device

most of the software is mature and stable now.

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http://www.play.com/Mobiles/Mobile/4...-/Product.html

Just bought this for it, will this work fine?

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Yes, the N810 will read a 16gbcard no bother,I have on kin mine, and it'll take a 32gb card.

you will need a microsd to minisd adaptor though. here is an example http://www.play.com/Mobiles/Mobile/4...bc%7b528%7d%2b

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The n810 can appear to be black in low light conditions but the keyboard in those photos is definitely a wimax model. Seems odd they would sell a wimax marked as a non-wimax since it has a bulge on the back for the wimax radio.

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and here it is, paired with my N8. definately a wimax model, any way to disable wimax radio? all it will do is waste battery [if it is active]

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i do like it in black.
I reckon the black keyboard would be easire to use with the white backlit lettering. don'tt think there's anywhere in the UK withn wimax though, althoujgh ikt's nice to be slightly different.

getting on ok with it?

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Yes thanks, its working fine!

I have done:

Updates
Diablo Turbo
community SSU
Telescope

And a few apps here and there, including Easy debian.

What do these that you suggested do:

5. install advanced system UI
6. install openntpd, openssh

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http://i.imgur.com/1l2LL.jpg

Everything ok here?

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Man this thing is beautiful :)

http://i.imgur.com/WN5Sk.jpg

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Advanced systemui http://asui.garage.maemo.org/ is a replacement for the standard system menu accessed by pressing the power button. Gives more control and features.

openntpd - is a network time server/client which will keep the time correct on your N810.

openssh - lets you connect to an xterm from your PC (use putty on windows), and ssh to any unix boxes.

Glad you are enjoying it!

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A thing of beauty - I still think the N810 is a much nicer nicer design than the n900. I do like the black one though. Almost tempted to buy one and flog my std one on ebay.

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http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/MINT-CONDITION...item256347d663

Last one, get em while they're hot!

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Does look good in black. Mine isn't the wimax edition, so it's not as pretty.

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The wimax radio should only turn on when connected to a wimax AP or when scanning for wimax/wifi networks.

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FYI, there seem to be more, for £45 this time.

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I got one of these! £45 isn't too bad. Except, the listing was a little vague as to if this was a retail boxed, or used unit. It was NOT retail boxed, and "mint" was stretching things slightly (as they are clearly scratches on the faceplate..)

So, it's just the unit and the charger (which is annoying, so I had to get a 0.99p USB cable) but it is pretty cool to be back in Maemo land. I was an N800 owner, but the lack of keyboard made me lose interest - the Nokia screwed the platform, but hey - another story.

No I'm using mine for doing IM and a little mobile embedded development. Should be a fun ride :-) As soon as I get a USB cable, I'll do the mods that require one (TurboDiablo does, I assume, due to reflashing?) but the others will be in place ASAP.