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bakry2003 2011-05-04 22:09

if n900 can run meego so why to buy the n950?
 
and i want you people to give me the best reference of witch phone do i have after the n900 coz am something confused there r many smartphones

m4r0v3r 2011-05-04 22:11

Re: if n900 can run meego so why to buy the n950?
 
because there is no N950 and N900 are fairly cheap at the moment around £150 in some places. While the N950 will be much more and am guessing even less support from Nokia. If you want a Meego phone wait for a better company to release it, like LG

richwhite 2011-05-04 22:18

Re: if n900 can run meego so why to buy the n950?
 
Because the hardware will be updated.

As for other smartphones, there are a lot but they're almost all Android, at least the ones from various manufacturers excluding BlackBerry and iPhone. There's a few WP7 phones out, but if you want one of those i'd wait for Nokia's, because the hardware will be better (the Focus doesn't even have a notification light, and it's surprising how much you come to rely on that)

atilla 2011-05-04 22:28

Re: if n900 can run meego so why to buy the n950?
 
which n950 and which meego you are talking about?

Pillum 2011-05-04 22:50

Re: if n900 can run meego so why to buy the n950?
 
newer, faster, cooler

Ken-Young 2011-05-04 22:56

Re: if n900 can run meego so why to buy the n950?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pillum (Post 1000309)
newer, faster, cooler

You forgot mythical.

lucas777 2011-05-04 23:37

Re: if n900 can run meego so why to buy the n950?
 
N950 Doesnt even exist nor do we even know its coming why do people still talk about it...

tirtawn 2011-05-05 01:53

Re: if n900 can run meego so why to buy the n950?
 
Why buy n950 ?

I am betting on the following
1. Hardware processor refreshed >= 1G Hz (Hoping.....)
2. Screen refreshed -SLCD Super Amoled 16M would be nice
3. > 3.4" screen
4. Multitouch

automagic68 2011-05-05 02:04

Re: if n900 can run meego so why to buy the n950?
 
N950 > n900 duh!!!

linuxguru 2011-05-05 03:30

Re: if n900 can run meego so why to buy the n950?
 
there is NO n950

if so , it will be an expensive to buy
BTW , n900 not a smart-phone , its a computer-phone

Mentalist Traceur 2011-05-05 03:33

Re: if n900 can run meego so why to buy the n950?
 
The title of this thread hits upon why businesses don't usually care about giving you software freedom on your hardware, especially with phones.

But on the other hand, Nokia would naturally bundle other stuff on top of the hypothetical-N950 (was there ever an official end to the N9 btw? Or did the rumors of that just fade and rumors of N950 came instead?), which could potentially be worth the upgrade. (But at the same time, one of my computers still runs Windows XP - there's nothing wrong with skipping upgrade iterations - that doesn't mean that there's no point to buy the hypothetical-N950 if you never had an N900 but were sitting on an even older phone until then. One can hope that as phones get better people will realize they don't need to upgrade every generation. Everything you use still runs fine a couple of years down the line, even if there's stuff that's technically better.

Also, keep in mind, as far as we know the N900 successor is NOT MeeGo, but is Maemo 6 renamed to MeeGo for branding purposes. It wouldn't be running true MeeGo. And even if it was there'd be a good chance that the official Nokia implementation on better hardware would run smoother/better than on the N900.

kingoddball 2011-05-05 06:38

Re: if n900 can run meego so why to buy the n950?
 
Everyone want a unicorn....

anandv76 2011-05-05 07:15

Re: if n900 can run meego so why to buy the n950?
 
N950 would be launched next week, Meego would run on N900 and pigs would start flying too!

zifis 2011-05-05 07:33

Re: if n900 can run meego so why to buy the n950?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by anandv76 (Post 1000431)
and pigs would start flying too!

No worries we'll shoot a few angry birds at them and bring them down :P

xenkof 2011-05-05 08:51

Re: if n900 can run meego so why to buy the n950?
 
Well, Elop has stated once again that a MeeGo Device is coming this year and it's NOT going to be a tablet.
This was said in a MeeGo meeting with HTC, LG and other handset makers, as he was trying to sell them on the MeeGo platform. So far only LG has jumbed on and is actually going to release a MeeGo device this year (probably sooner that Nokia).

stickymick 2011-05-05 09:41

Re: if n900 can run meego so why to buy the n950?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by xenkof (Post 1000454)
Well, Elop has stated once again that a MeeGo Device is coming this year and it's NOT going to be a tablet.
This was said in a MeeGo meeting with HTC, LG and other handset makers, as he was trying to sell them on the MeeGo platform. So far only LG has jumbed on and is actually going to release a MeeGo device this year (probably sooner that Nokia).

A few points to raise;

Did he specifically state it would be a Nokia device?

Which means he could be talking about the HTC device

I didn't think MeeGo was his to sell. It's a consortium of software and hardware developers, so I'd hazard a guess that he was trying to sell Nokia's stake.

I'll certainly take a look at any MeeGo devices that appear, in the interests of an upgrade, but if they've got network cr@p installed and restrictions like bits of the software ripped out that they don't want their customers to use, then they're staying on the shelf.

pelago 2011-05-05 11:24

Re: if n900 can run meego so why to buy the n950?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by xenkof (Post 1000454)
Well, Elop has stated once again that a MeeGo Device is coming this year and it's NOT going to be a tablet.
This was said in a MeeGo meeting with HTC, LG and other handset makers, as he was trying to sell them on the MeeGo platform.

Source, please?

droitwichgas 2011-05-05 11:43

Re: if n900 can run meego so why to buy the n950?
 
Unless Elop goes back on his word it seems likely we will get a N950 , after all why have a N900 Meego DE Team of 20 plus people working on the os if it is not going to lead to a N950 being released?

However the N900 Meego o/s will be for power users/developers not end users which I assume the N950 will be aim at if it is released?

Like any new Android/IOS phone it will also be an update on the previous hardware with an better processor etc.

One interesting point raised here is what form of Meego the LG devices will run, will it be Meamo 6 like the N950 or full blown Meego os?

Khertan 2011-05-05 11:43

Re: if n900 can run meego so why to buy the n950?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by xenkof (Post 1000454)
Well, Elop has stated once again that a MeeGo Device is coming this year and it's NOT going to be a tablet.
This was said in a MeeGo meeting with HTC, LG and other handset makers, as he was trying to sell them on the MeeGo platform. So far only LG has jumbed on and is actually going to release a MeeGo device this year (probably sooner that Nokia).

He didn't say too that it s will be a phone. It s could be a router device. Or a media center small pc, or a netbook with meego netbook ux.

To resume he said : blablabla blabla blablabla blabla Microsoft !! Blabla blablablabla bla blablabla ecosystem ... blablabla blabla blablablabla blabla Fire 4000 people ... blabla blablabla Accenture will kill Symbian for us ... blabla blablabla blabla and fire other 3000 people ... blabla blabla blabla bla balblablabla bla

droitwichgas 2011-05-05 13:09

Re: if n900 can run meego so why to buy the n950?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Khertan (Post 1000551)
He didn't say too that it s will be a phone. It s could be a router device. Or a media center small pc, or a netbook with meego netbook ux.

To resume he said : blablabla blabla blablabla blabla Microsoft !! Blabla blablablabla bla blablabla ecosystem ... blablabla blabla blablablabla blabla Fire 4000 people ... blabla blablabla Accenture will kill Symbian for us ... blabla blablabla blabla and fire other 3000 people ... blabla blabla blabla bla balblablabla bla

Eldar's latest tweet apparently says Nokia are only planning on selling 92,000 N950's so it doesn't sound like many of us will be buying them in any event if he can be belived!

retsaw 2011-05-05 13:41

Re: if n900 can run meego so why to buy the n950?
 
Why 92,000? Why not 90,000 or 95,000 or 100,000. Seems like an odd number to me. But with the, IMO, bad decisions Nokia has been making, it wouldn't surprise me and to be honest I'm not expecting it to be something I'd want (or in other words I sort of expect Nokia to f' up the design in a way that would make me not want it).

script.ninja 2011-05-07 02:37

Re: if n900 can run meego so why to buy the n950?
 
No way. 92000 is definitely an even number.

droitwichgas 2011-05-07 04:12

Re: if n900 can run meego so why to buy the n950?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by retsaw (Post 1000620)
Why 92,000? Why not 90,000 or 95,000 or 100,000. Seems like an odd number to me. .

Could be 10% of the total of the N900 sales of 920,000???

misterc 2011-05-08 11:57

Re: if n900 can run meego so why to buy the n950?
 
shooting flying pigs out of the sky w/ angry birds, are we...
thinking Rich Green became NOKIA's CTO because he was some sort of a Xmas father ridding a sledge drawn by caribou's between the clouds, are we?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ISjb9E5A2ls from 0:16 to 0:25:
«we do plan to ship a device from our MeeGo program some time this year and i think it is critically important to deliver that and to get the feedback from that [...]»
from 0:57 on:
«[...]as we evaluate the feedback from MeeGo we are going to consider that feedback and the technology therein for inclusion in our you know next generation technologies or platform technologies that we talked about»
can it be any clearer? of course, if they only sell 92'000 units, it is going to be the end of it.
considering the «[...] it is beautiful and elegant and the hardware is interesting and the software is powerful [...]» part, one can't help thinking NOKIA is rather aiming @ selling 9'200'000 units of it ;)
if the interesting hw includes a keyboard, they sure already have sold one :D
nearly a million N900s sold edges on miraculous considering the poor prognostics @ release time :D

i left out the part where Rich confesses that NOKIA was a little late w/ getting Maemo to the (smart-)phone masses (with the N900) and that their plan to drop Maemo / MeeGo in Intel's lap (-tops ¦-)) and wait for WIntel to become de facto standard of the (smart-)phone market and being able to piggyback on that w/ Maemo / MeeGo didn't quite work out.
considering the fu## about and around LostDOS paralysed se7en at the time of its release, it seemed enough to unite Mameo w/ Moblin to achieve that.
m@ke$$h!t being what it is, NOKIA had to step in to "save" LostDOS Paralysed se7en (and get its next platform going :cool: )

maybe the only question one might ask is whether it was worth sacrificing Symbian^3 for MeeGo? or merely precipitate its end?
NOKIA usually only had one platform (Symbian, mostly, so far) and it remains to be seen how long they will continue carry m@ke$$h!t at arm's length once Maemo / MeeGo takes off...
in case it doesn't, they have their fall back strategy already in the air :cool:
and who knows, maybe they'll include a key combination to "flash" W devices w/ MeeGo :D

abill_uk 2011-05-08 12:29

Re: if n900 can run meego so why to buy the n950?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Khertan (Post 1000551)
He didn't say too that it s will be a phone. It s could be a router device. Or a media center small pc, or a netbook with meego netbook ux.

To resume he said : blablabla blabla blablabla blabla Microsoft !! Blabla blablablabla bla blablabla ecosystem ... blablabla blabla blablablabla blabla Fire 4000 people ... blabla blablabla Accenture will kill Symbian for us ... blabla blablabla blabla and fire other 3000 people ... blabla blabla blabla bla balblablabla bla

Oh you got your l's mixed up with your a's and it spoilt your fantastic post ;)

sjgadsby 2011-05-08 13:42

Re: if n900 can run meego so why to buy the n950?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mentalist Traceur (Post 1000374)
...Nokia would naturally bundle other stuff on top of the hypothetical-N950...which could potentially be worth the upgrade.

Yes. Flash Player, ActiveSync, Ovi Maps, Ovi Suite support, and all those other proprietary bits would only come with the Harmattan device.

Quote:

Originally Posted by xenkof (Post 1000454)
So far only LG has jumbed on and is actually going to release a MeeGo device this year (probably sooner that Nokia).

I have not seen this announcement. Do you have a source?

I have seen LG announce they will be attending MeeGo Conference San Francisco 2011, and they will be showing devices running MeeGo. However, indications thus far are that these are existing devices LG sells running non-MeeGo operating systems, and they're bringing them to discuss the MeeGo hardware adaptation process with developers, not to announce future products.

MeeGo Conference San Francisco 2011 has an even more developer-oriented feel to it than the first MeeGo Conference. A product launch there would be 770-ish.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Khertan (Post 1000551)
...or a netbook with meego netbook ux.

Beautiful. The extreme degree to which, and the number of ways in which, that is improbable almost makes it appealing to believe.

raghu_mark 2011-05-08 14:53

Re: if n900 can run meego so why to buy the n950?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by droitwichgas (Post 1000606)
Eldar's latest tweet apparently says Nokia are only planning on selling 92,000 N950's so it doesn't sound like many of us will be buying them in any event if he can be belived!

Please don't believe everything that Eldar says. He seems to be lying a lot these days.

abill_uk 2011-05-08 14:57

Re: if n900 can run meego so why to buy the n950?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by raghu_mark (Post 1002141)
Please don't believe everything that Eldar says. He seems to be lying a lot these days.

= Nokia is a total mess now and don't they just love to play guessing games with people !. ;)

raghu_mark 2011-05-08 15:00

Re: if n900 can run meego so why to buy the n950?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by abill_uk (Post 1002143)
= Nokia is a total mess now and don't they just love to play guessing games with people !. ;)

Agreed!!! but, there are reasons for all the secrecy. Eldar seems to be stating half truths these days.

atilla 2011-05-08 15:02

Re: if n900 can run meego so why to buy the n950?
 
I don't get why people still believe that nokia or a other company will release a meego device.you guys must be new here because most of us here hear this crap since over a year and nothing happened until now.
just lies,myths,fud, and other **** comes from the nokia side of life.
the fact is that meego will be what this community and our devs will make with it PERIOD
thats all

abill_uk 2011-05-08 15:05

Re: if n900 can run meego so why to buy the n950?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by atilla (Post 1002148)
I don't get why people still believe that nokia or a other company will release a meego device.you guys must be new here because most of us here hear this crap since over a year and nothing happened until now.
just lies,myths,fud, and other **** comes from the nokia side of life.
the fact is that meego will be what this community and our devs will make with it PERIOD
thats all

So that means if i read this right that LG will get MeeGo, and in fact everyone else who will use MeeGo, get from THIS community?.

Dave999 2011-05-08 15:18

Re: if n900 can run meego so why to buy the n950?
 
just buy something else. something real...

I thought I would have Nokia's next phone when I reached 1000 post. Its now clear to me that n900 will be my last
nokiaphone ever...

abill_uk 2011-05-08 15:30

Re: if n900 can run meego so why to buy the n950?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave999 (Post 1002155)
just buy something else. something real...

I thought I would have Nokia's next phone when I reached 1000 post. Its now clear to me that n900 will be my last
nokiaphone ever...

I must admit on the face of it many will think the same as you but i bet they bring out something that will spin heads, in fact i would bet on it :p.

misterc 2011-05-08 16:38

Re: if n900 can run meego so why to buy the n950?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by atilla (Post 1002148)
I don't get why people still believe that nokia or a other company will release a meego device.you guys must be new here because most of us here hear this crap since over a year and nothing happened until now.
just lies,myths,fud, and other **** comes from the nokia side of life.
the fact is that meego will be what this community and our devs will make with it PERIOD
thats all

just because you are blind doesn't mean NOKIA has no vision.
but implementing a vision such as a new operating system in a market takes more time then typing in some empty thoughts on a forum or blog.
see Linux / GNU... the 1st 10 years after Linus Torvalds had created it, hardly anyone installed it leave alone used it on a home PC, except those who worked w/ it. just because since a couple yrs even a school kid can install the buntu crap on nearly any computer doesn't mean it always was like that.
same thing goes for Maemo / MeeGo with one slight difference; Linus created the Linux kernel for the sake of fun (nearly, in fact he was tired of having to pay for licenses to do something he thought he could do, possibly even better...)
NOKIA is the largest mobile phone company world wide. there is a little bit more inertia (call it social responsibility or whatever you want) involved then just... releasing the code and make it common good.

Dave999 2011-05-08 16:55

Re: if n900 can run meego so why to buy the n950?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by abill_uk (Post 1002160)
I must admit on the face of it many will think the same as you but i bet they bring out something that will spin heads, in fact i would bet on it :p.

True. "ever" means until something really really nice arrive :D

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