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Just read that Elop, in a Finnish press interview, spoke of how they were trying to cast off Meego to other vendors (such as LG) and during the same interview said that Nokia would still release a Meego device this year, but it would not be a slate or tablet.

Could it be the N950? If it is a sexed-up N900, it could be the first thing on Santa's list... :)

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Sounds good, I hope it's a boosted n900

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It is N950. Name was confirmed by Rich Green from Nokia, but apparently this is first time somebody has confirmed it not being tablet.
Green did say in February that N950 should be looked as successor to N900, that was kind of hint to it being phone.

That said who cares about the name as it doesn't tell anything. Hopefully the hw is up up to the competition, that i'm most worried. It will be very short lived as far as the official support goes and i really need/want stuff like HDMI out and according to couple of insiders the multitasking will still be on the very core of the OS so extra umph would not do any harm there... and then we can overclock it to take some more out of it. ;)

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It's a soda dispensing machine.

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Could you provide a link to the interview?

+ There's no guarentee it will be called the N950. If you watch the presentation, you can tell that Rich Green was not being dead serious by calling it the 'N950', he was joking around

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I'm still worrying about the successor of the N900, will it have a keyboard or not!?
I hope it will :(

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That is quite funny. I was there at the MWC and the impression I got was that N950 is exactly how it is NOT going to be called. The phrase, considering context, background slide, and intonation, was something on the lines of "but we're talking about a evolutionary increment here, let's say a n950 kind of device".

Then I came back here and everyone was going all over it.

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Heh i was just thinking about that while writing that and finding link about it.
Reading the exact quote it sounded like N950 was just thrown out there because of what he said about this device being successor to N900. Media all around sure have made it a fact that this MeeGo or Harmattan device is N950.

Though like said the name isn't the important part, even it's internal name like RM-XXX could be more revealing than the name made up by the marketing department month before announcement.

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I would'nt trust any word comming from that idiot Mr Flop himself.

He has already hurted Meego and Qt when he spread his lies about Meego/Qt and "burning platform".

That idiot is still working for Microsoft not Nokia. Even if he gets his salary from Nokia.

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The problem is that they are trying to release the device as a MeeGo device despite it not being MeeGo. They're still pushing for an exception from the Linux Foundation, which considering Nokia's actions and Elop's statements should be denied outright.

If LG is going to pick up just as Nokia drops a device and walks off the field, then LG should have the opportunity to release the first official MeeGo device.

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@AndyNokia232 do you have a link to the source somewhere?

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Frankly? I can't be bothered what Nokia does any more.

Why would I buy a (semi)Meego device while I know they will drop it like a dead dog (like they did with N900 (I know, slightly exaggerated)) within a few months?

Any nice Phone with Meego != Nokia will do when I need to replace my N900. Which I hope will not be for a few years. :)

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well n900 did had a year of half baked updates.... n950 doubt will be that lucky

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It was in Helsingin Sanomat a couple of days ago. Elop did not have an interview but was answering questions on the Nokia shareholder meeting.

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English version of the interview from Helsingin Sanomat - International Edition

EDIT: Link fixed to correct interview.
http://www.hs.fi/english/article/Nok.../1135265877053

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Thanks goes to GRR on my N900 :)

http://www.electronista.com/articles...ht.at.meeting/

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I read somewhere else that Elop talked about a Nokia tablet in development that wouldn't be the "201st tablet" on the market, because everyone and their wives are making them now, some of them not all that great. The New York Times' review of RIM's 'Playbook' was pretty scathing, so I'm hoping Nokia make one that is super top quality.

But at the same time, I'm relieved that whatever they cook up for the tablet-sphere, it won't be the Meego device, because I, like most folk here, am hoping the N950 (or whatever is ends up being called!) is the successor (as Rich Green said) to the N900.

A slimmer N900 but with all the whistles and bells of Maemo5, plus HDMI and possibly even NFC, would basically fulfill my mobile dreams, and I would most likely wet my pants. In public.

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Or, as Rich Green didn't say. Please read comments above.

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They may drop it, but the community may pick it up. Remember that one of the goals of MeeGo is to be more open to avoid what I have dubbed the Rapid Obsolescence Syndrome.

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I know Rich Green mentioned "the successor to the N900 [quick, Rich, think of a number...] the N950" in a very throwaway fashion at that conference. But maybe not, maybe he was annoyed at himself for actually giving away the actual name of the device, when he really didn't want to. Breaking all the Nokia rules of secrecy!

Frankly I don't care whether it's called the N950 or the N9, or the N1000. I just am happy that something should be coming before New Year's Eve, and I'll be even happier if it's like my trusty N900 but after a 6 month course of Weight Watchers.

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Are you even bother too read the meego mailinglist? Nokia may be late releasing harmattan code (like qt components) to the meego core but infact they do!!! But sometimes they dont seems to get good response/feedback from other companys (Intel) who sometimes just drops ideas comming from Nokia. And after 11 february it did go even more like lets dish everything comming from Nokia.

Nokia may have done many stupid decisions but dont blame them for everything related to Meego. stuff from Harmattan maybe will not come to Meego cause of Intel and the "linux foundation"

two examples that I reminds me is qt-components UI for handset and optimized trackerd.

And btw. if you think everything Meegorelated code from Intel has been developen from start as an open project youre wrong...

as far as I know tablet UI was closed at beginning..

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Yes, Intel released it when it got to the "pre-alpha" stage, but it wasn't open before that AFAIK. Relevant MeeGo Forum thread is here.

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I don't see what that has to do with my point. There may be code going from Harmattan into MeeGo, however that does not make Harmattan MeeGo.

The rest is not relevant to my comment.

My point was simple. Harmattan will be what is on the N950 when it is released, and while there may be a DE version of MeeGo for the N950, and a lot of code from Harmattan is going into MeeGo, Harmattan is not MeeGo. They should not have an exemption. Not becauseNokia is going WP7 or somehow they are evil, but because they participated in establishing a set of rules that define what MeeGo is, and will admittedly not meet them.

Of course, that's all my opinion. Don't go getting angry now.

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Don't often agree with you but i agree that as Nokia now seem to have firmly dropped MeeGo, the OS by the way not a device, then yes if LG carry on what Nokia failed then good luck to them and i would give it a best vote after all the work going on in the background on MeeGo.

It is however you look at it very clear way way back when MeeGo was a new project for Nokia that Microsoft stepped in with an offer Nokia could not refuse due to there somewhat failing company and the very reason Maemo and MeeGo got droped like a bomb as Microsoft have no interest in either hence why Nokia have gone the route they have.

I personaly hope it all comes back to haunt Nokia after they fail miserably with Microsoft and go down the pan altogether after the sneaky way they have treated everyone after selling the N900 and dropping us all in the shite, they deserve to lose but knowing Microsoft and it's history it will most probably sadly never happen.

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There is NO gurantee for a Handset Device. He only said they wont release a slate or tablet.

So, everything between MeeGo IVI and a Desktop Computer is Possible. Don't forget... ;)

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youre saying harmattan is not meego well what do you base that on?
Binary blobs? I dont think soo cause this is allowed in Meego! not in the OSS repos ofcourse but on the phones/tablets by the manufactors.

DEB instead of RPM? well that was the case 2010 and maybe not true now cause we have not seen any official statement this is still the case maybe they are using rpm now?

so what of the rest of the rules they dont follow in Meego to be called Meego?

as far as i know there is not that much difference between harmattan and Meego they both is using same core linux libs. But if you can prove me wrong with facts I dont mind.

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Nokia generally make phones though.

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You, and many others, seems to be totally blind from the facts that Meego is depending on Qt(Quick). Most of the develelopers working with core Qt is STILL employed by Nokia.

So as long as Nokia owns Qt we should not "hope they fail"

Without Qt(Quick) Meego will fail.

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Harmattan is based on Maemo which is based on Debian. MeeGo is based on Fedora. Harmattan is also using Busybox and MeeGo is not.

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If you haven't noticed Elop is working full time trying to kill Qt. Symbian and Meego are already axed and Qt has already been half sold to Digia. Nokia will keep S40 but afaik Qt is not used there. It's easy to see that Qt is Ballmers worst nightmare so all this just makes sense. Put a puppet like Elop on the top of Nokia and kill Qt.

Edit: And the reason they're making the N950 is just because they've been working on it for years. But I guess that Elop was very tempted to kill it too.

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By statements from qgil himself. They're actively seeking an exemption, and they wouldn't have to if Harmattan were MeeGo.

This is one of them. There may be others but seeing as how I don't work for Nokia I can't exactly go exploring.

Hey, I'm just reiterating a known fact. Nokia themselves admit that Harmattan is not MeeGo and does not meet the compliance spec. They are asking for an exemption, and IMO they should not receive it.

Please be less angry over other people's opinions.

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A car from Nokia would be interesting... Probably would not get one though.

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A nokia car? Hell no! It would lag like **** and then crash. Then you'd have to close all the windows and then restart it.

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This Thread is about Nokia's next MeeGo Device. Please keep all Windows Phone 7 related discussions in specific threads. Thanks! ;)

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oh snap! :d

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This Thread is about Nokia's next MeeGo Device. Please keep all Windows CAR 7 related discussions in specific threads. Thanks! ;)

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I think Nokia should release their MeeGo device under the Vertu brand with very classy styling but reasonable price. That would gain a lot of attention in the media, and also create a wild combination of open source software with luxury brand.

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They said harmattan was not fully Meego 2010 yes but its 2011 and things has changed.

can you give me a NEW link where Nokia actually saying they still use DEB?

and all this about compliance spec what are they not following?

Link?

I am NOT saying youre wrong but I am intrested to know what is not compliance and why (there could be several reason they dont are.

one example is to new QtMobility in Harmattan....

If I remeber correct Meego 1.2 is using QTM 1.02 and my guess is harmattan will use 1.2 cause we already has that version in Maemo extras-devel.

this may be Nokias fault cause it was not released in time, but still its an important atleast on handset. So it could be a reason it should have exception to let them call it Meego.

As long as those new libraryversions is added to Meego 1.3.

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Here you go: http://lists.maemo.org/pipermail/mae...ay/004793.html