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cfh11 2011-05-16 15:11

NTT DoCoMo's Fujitsu LOOX F-07C
 
http://www.engadget.com/2011/05/15/n...ng-with-windo/

thoughts?

I am intrigued by the idea of a "phone mode" for when you just need lots of standby/call time and don't necessarily need to full computer capabilities. Damn I wish the n900 could dual boot symbian....

oh and the 1,024 x 600 res sounds delicious :)

Mentalist Traceur 2011-05-16 17:44

Re: NTT DoCoMo's Fujitsu LOOX F-07C
 
Somehow I think if you really didn't use the N900 for anything other than phone, you'd get very similar standby times as a device with symbian.

Disable or pause all the processes that aren't needed on a "phone" (pause the browser process, disable tracker, etc, etc); keep wifi radio completely off (driver modules unloaded), etc.

I'm sure you could code a status menu applet or something (or Queen Beecon Widget or whateter) to go into "phone only" mode where a bunch of non-phone processes are gutted.

cfh11 2011-05-16 18:35

Re: NTT DoCoMo's Fujitsu LOOX F-07C
 
Yeah I have done this before via the "hard sleep" queen beacon widget, but I just think symbian is much more battery efficient than maemo.

Capt'n Corrupt 2011-05-16 18:49

Re: NTT DoCoMo's Fujitsu LOOX F-07C
 
Just out of curiosity (and it's just curiosity), what is the major draw to Symbian?

anonymous 2011-05-16 18:56

Re: NTT DoCoMo's Fujitsu LOOX F-07C
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cfh11 (Post 1007502)

Replace win7 with Meego.

cfh11 2011-05-16 18:57

Re: NTT DoCoMo's Fujitsu LOOX F-07C
 
i have fond memories of symbian from my n95 days... IMO symbian is the most battery efficient and capable "phone OS" out there. sucks as a "computer OS" though.

welcome capt'n.... i was wondering when you were going to show up ;)

debernardis 2011-05-16 19:02

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Symbian is boring nowadays but is perfectly capable of doing a whole lot of things: apart from managing the phone, which is its specialty, it has good applications for everything. Just browse symbian forums.

ironm8 2011-05-16 19:02

Re: NTT DoCoMo's Fujitsu LOOX F-07C
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Capt'n Corrupt (Post 1007636)
Just out of curiosity (and it's just curiosity), what is the major draw to Symbian?

Its Sexy!

Now seriously, how does it work? isnt symbian for ARM devices?! and atom is x86! strikes me as odd. maybe symbian runs on some kind of vm?

aligatro 2011-05-16 19:06

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What a Frankenstein... and Windows 7 on 32 GB flash drive ? I have 64GB SSD in my laptop and I start fighting for space shortly after I do clean install. Also, it says that frequency stays at 50%. So, does it mean that 1.2 Ghz is underclocked to 600mhz?? Although, if I didn't have n900 and had 800 bucks to spend on this thing, I would probably buy it. And then install some full x86 linux distro with a lightweight GUI. :P

Mentalist Traceur 2011-05-16 19:13

Re: NTT DoCoMo's Fujitsu LOOX F-07C
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cfh11 (Post 1007627)
Yeah I have done this before via the "hard sleep" queen beacon widget, but I just think symbian is much more battery efficient than maemo.

*Shrug* How are you defining efficiency, exactly? Efficiency is getting a specific task or set of tasks or action(s) done with minimal wasteful expenditure.

Carrying a handgun around if all you want is to put bullets into soft human flesh things IS more efficient for that task and that task alone then driving around in an armored car with a mounted missile launcher and machine gun combo. But that armored car is going to do other things, that the handgun simply can't do - like protect you from bullets and fire missiles. At the end of the day, when you need to fire one bullet into one human-flesh thing, the car-mounted machine gun and the handgun will have very similar efficiency - firing pin hits bullet and the gun-powder goes boom.

But then that handgun is very inefficient if you want to use it for any other task, beyond a narrow range of functions.

Similarly, I don't think it's a matter of Maemo being more or less *efficient* then Symbian. It's just that Maemo does more, and thus has more stuff running in the background. Keep it to just the kernel and telephony, and whatever else symbian does, and it'll probably run you about the same energy consumption on the same hardware.

Of course, I'm not an expert, but so I suspect.

Capt'n Corrupt 2011-05-16 19:32

Re: NTT DoCoMo's Fujitsu LOOX F-07C
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mentalist Traceur (Post 1007655)
*Shrug* How are you defining efficiency, exactly? Efficiency is getting a specific task or set of tasks or action(s) done with minimal wasteful expenditure.

Carrying a handgun around if all you want is to put bullets into soft human flesh things IS more efficient for that task and that task alone then driving around in an armored car with a mounted missile launcher and machine gun combo. But that armored car is going to do other things, that the handgun simply can't do - like protect you from bullets and fire missiles. At the end of the day, when you need to fire one bullet into one human-flesh thing, the car-mounted machine gun and the handgun will have very similar efficiency - firing pin hits bullet and the gun-powder goes boom.

But then that handgun is very inefficient if you want to use it for any other task, beyond a narrow range of functions.

Similarly, I don't think it's a matter of Maemo being more or less *efficient* then Symbian. It's just that Maemo does more, and thus has more stuff running in the background. Keep it to just the kernel and telephony, and whatever else symbian does, and it'll probably run you about the same energy consumption on the same hardware.

Of course, I'm not an expert, but so I suspect.

I find your gun analogy deeply disturbing, though informative...

DYK, that you can use a handgun to crack walnuts and silence your neighbors?

Thank me later..

cfh11 2011-05-16 19:38

Re: NTT DoCoMo's Fujitsu LOOX F-07C
 
im basing my efficiency claim solely on the fact that the minimum hardware specs for symbian are almost comically low. i wish i had a link to support this, but the fact that symbian is basically a corpse now makes finding them difficult :/

anyways, i stand by my position that the n900's BME is very inefficient.

jotoco 2011-05-16 19:49

Re: NTT DoCoMo's Fujitsu LOOX F-07C
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cfh11 (Post 1007668)
im basing my efficiency claim solely on the fact that the minimum hardware specs for symbian are almost comically low. i wish i had a link to support this, but the fact that symbian is basically a corpse now makes finding them difficult :/

anyways, i stand by my position that the n900's BME is very inefficient.

Agreed.

Even without data plan, using VERY FEW calls, and almost no wifi usage it got me through 2 days of use.

When I have a data plan it usually last 12~16hours.

My e71 lasts a WHOLE WEEK with my father, and lasted about 3~4 days with HEAVY use. My 5530 lasted me 2 days of Heavy use.

The same use I make of my n900 I can get twice the battery on a symbian.




That said, apart from the new Symbian 3 devices with Anna, I don't think Symbian can replace Maemo. With it, though, I think it can.

I would still have a Symbian before an Android (mostly because n8 camera's is so badass), because I don't know a single Android with a "decent" camera and Xenon flash (that can be upgraded to modern OS, too). Fragmentation is also a ***** I don't want to fiddle around with.

Capt'n Corrupt 2011-05-16 20:45

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jotoco (Post 1007681)
Fragmentation is also a ***** I don't want to fiddle around with.

What fragmentation?

martin-357 2011-07-08 20:11

Re: NTT DoCoMo's Fujitsu LOOX F-07C
 
Is the f-07c out yet? Any way to import it?


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