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karam 2011-05-18 07:42
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Mr. Incredible 2011-05-18 08:36
Re: [How To] Speed UP N900 to 300%
 
What does WSEGL_UseHWSync=1 do?

wimmme 2011-05-18 08:36
Re: [How To] Speed UP N900 to 300%
 
Not a bad start of a summary of what I did to my phone too ...

possible additions :
- used maemodder to enable hardware acceleration and LV-profile,
- QCPUfreq to OC to 250-805 and enable smartreflex
- Theme Customizer / CSSU tuner / transition control for ultrafast transitions
- Autodisconnect for improved battery-life (has nothing to do with speed)

I am no expert, but this helped me to love my phone more than ever before, because it does what & when I want, and not a second later :D

Be aware that none of this is guaranteed to work on every device!

eefo 2011-05-18 08:40
Re: [How To] Speed UP N900 to 300%
 
lol
and yeah one more addtion :p
use maemodder and select Dscobst transition :P
and tracker cfg = check lowmemorymode and throttle index upto 10 and save the settings the restart tracker :P

karam 2011-05-18 08:40
Re: [How To] Speed UP N900 to 300%
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr. Incredible (Post 1008878)
What does WSEGL_UseHWSync=1 do?
IT enables hardware acceleration
wich will improve hildon-desktop performance
(it might be unstable on some devices as wiimmme said but i have been using it for 6 months and no problems

eefo 2011-05-18 08:40
Re: [How To] Speed UP N900 to 300%
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr. Incredible (Post 1008878)
What does WSEGL_UseHWSync=1 do?
boot up hildon desktop i guess !

jedi 2011-05-18 08:41
Re: [How To] Speed UP N900 to 300%
 
I'm looking forward to reading how you're going to back up your 300% claim ;)

Please lets see some benchmarks/graphs or any other data.

karam 2011-05-18 08:42
Re: [How To] Speed UP N900 to 300%
 
oh yep correct guys i actualy forgot to add the theme-customizer transitions and the tracker-cfg options
:)

eefo 2011-05-18 08:43
Re: [How To] Speed UP N900 to 300%
 
QUOTE=wimmme ;1008879Not a bad start of a summary of what I did to my phone too ...

possible additions :
- used maemodder to enable hardware acceleration and LV-profile,(i am using default profile and it is also working fine ;))
- QCPUfreq to OC to 250-805 and enable smartreflex
- Theme Customizer / CSSU tuner / transition control for ultrafast transitions
- Autodisconnect for improved battery-life (has nothing to do with speed)

I am no expert, but this helped me to love my phone more than ever before, because it does what & when I want, and not a second later :D

Be aware that none of this is guaranteed to work on every device![/QUOTE]

chemist 2011-05-18 08:50
Re: [How To] Speed UP N900 to 300%
 
It is nice you guys know your way around but it is common on TMO to provide descent WARNINGS when posting stuff outside of devel-forums. Keep in mind that this will be read by someone who just does what you tell to do so a disclaimer is also good for you, in the US (hopefully not in many other countries) people will sue you for sure if a howto without disclaimer or descent warning killed their device!

karam 2011-05-18 09:17
Re: [How To] Speed UP N900 to 300%
 
1 Attachment(s)
For people who use theme-customizer and want to enable the 9 desktop ability
Choose your settings at themecustomizer in controle pannel then

reinstall hildon-home :
dpkg -i hildon-home_0.3.71-6_armel.deb
and reboot

every thing should be fine

ONLY AFTER INSTALLING CSSU !!!!!

eefo 2011-05-18 09:25
Re: [How To] Speed UP N900 to 300%
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by karam (Post 1008908)
For people who use theme-customizer and want to enable the 9 desktop ability
Choose your settings at themecustomizer in controle pannel then

reinstall hildon-home :
dpkg -i hildon-home_0.3.71-6_armel.deb
and reboot

every thing should be fine

ONLY AFTER INSTALLING CSSU !!!!!

maemodder has all these options .
i hope for the noobs it is really irritating to type commands again and again which are totally unknown to them .
just simply install maemodder and just click according to your desire :)

original thread !
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=67989

karam 2011-05-18 09:33
Re: [How To] Speed UP N900 to 300%
 
Hmm well pretty nice app

N900@900MHz 2011-05-18 09:47
Re: [How To] Speed UP N900 to 300%
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by karam (Post 1008908)
For people who use theme-customizer and want to enable the 9 desktop ability
Choose your settings at themecustomizer in controle pannel then

reinstall hildon-home :
dpkg -i hildon-home_0.3.71-6_armel.deb
and reboot

every thing should be fine

ONLY AFTER INSTALLING CSSU !!!!!
So this could be implented in next CSSU update??

karam 2011-05-18 09:52
Re: [How To] Speed UP N900 to 300%
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by N900@900MHz (Post 1008934)
So this could be implented in next CSSU update??
NoNo you got all wrong
normaly after installing the CSSU
you will have the ability to add more desktops with (manage views) up to 9

but if you used theme-customizer this ability will be gone because theme-customizer uses the normal pr1.3 hildon-home (i guess)
wich will replace the CSSU modified hildon-home

so with the steps i mentioned above (reinstalling CSSU hildon-home) you can use theme-customizer + 9 desktops ability

SO: this is a bug in theme-customizer and has nothing to do with CSSU

That is why i recommend normal users to use cssu-tuner
it has no issus

N900@900MHz 2011-05-18 10:05
Re: [How To] Speed UP N900 to 300%
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by karam (Post 1008939)
NoNo you got all wrong
normaly after installing the CSSU
you will have the ability to add more desktops with (manage views) up to 9

but if you used theme-customizer this ability will be gone because theme-customizer uses the normal pr1.3 hildon-home (i guess)
wich will replace the CSSU modified hildon-home

so with the steps i mentioned above (reinstalling CSSU hildon-home) you can use theme-customizer + 9 desktops ability

SO: this is a bug in theme-customizer and has nothing to do with CSSU

That is why i recommend normal users to use cssu-tuner
it has no issus

Ok thanks for the info, but app. maneger says that this version is already installed.hildon-home_0.3.71-6_armel.deb

So which version is stock PR1.3/theme customizer? and wich one is CSSU?

I have CSSU and theme customizer installed

jedi 2011-05-18 10:07
Re: [How To] Speed UP N900 to 300%
 
So when are we gonna see some data to back up this "300%" claim?

Or is it completely unsubstantiated and you're just using it to draw attention to your post?

N900@900MHz 2011-05-18 10:14
Re: [How To] Speed UP N900 to 300%
 
Ok i've managed to enable the 9 desktops again.

In X-term, with internet connection and root access type:

apt-get install --reinstall hildon-home

this command installs the hildon-home_0.3.71-6_armel.deb
when done reboot.

Schriek 2011-05-18 10:18
Re: [How To] Speed UP N900 to 300%
 
Smartflex causes a instant reboot for me tho, rest of the tweaks works well

karam 2011-05-18 10:27
Re: [How To] Speed UP N900 to 300%
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by N900@900MHz (Post 1008956)
Ok thanks for the info, but app. maneger says that this version is already installed.hildon-home_0.3.71-6_armel.deb

So which version is stock PR1.3/theme customizer? and wich one is CSSU?

I have CSSU and theme customizer installed
application manager or dpkg will report the CSSU hildon-home if you have it installed but theme-customizer will replace some data that CSSU hildon-home's one uses so reinstalling hildon-home should give you back the 9 desktops ability

karam 2011-05-18 10:29
Re: [How To] Speed UP N900 to 300%
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Schriek (Post 1008969)
Smartflex causes a instant reboot for me tho, rest of the tweaks works well
Probably you are overloaking n900 over than 805 or even to 805

You may try using the Default profile and stay on 600 mhz

jakiman 2011-05-18 10:31
Re: [How To] Speed UP N900 to 300%
 
I was intrigued by the title of this thread. But was disappointed when I saw it as there was nothing new. Other than CSSU which itself doesn't really improve "speed", I've covered them all and more. Check my signature for my article also if you haven't already.

I run mine at 1.1GHz + tweaks and it still doesn't feel 300% faster unfortunately.

yanness 2011-05-18 10:32
Re: [How To] Speed UP N900 to 300%
 
I think every steps and commands should be explained to make clear of what we are exactly doing to the N900.

And steps to reverse in case it doesn't work.

karam 2011-05-18 10:35
Re: [How To] Speed UP N900 to 300%
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jedi (Post 1008959)
So when are we gonna see some data to back up this "300%" claim?

Or is it completely unsubstantiated and you're just using it to draw attention to your post?
Ok then have you got any idea to make you see
for now you need to trust me casue i have a lot of friends did those tweaks and had a great results
and you can ask someone tried them in this thread
and the attention to my post heh this is even my first post in my whole life
idk how to bring attention to it :p

BTW i may do a youtube video but youtube is blocked in my country so i will have to do with a proxy or vpn
but not at the main time

karam 2011-05-18 10:38
Re: [How To] Speed UP N900 to 300%
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jakiman (Post 1008982)
I
I run mine at 1.1GHz + tweaks and it still doesn't feel 300% faster unfortunately.
well what can i say then
Maybe with these tweaks running n900 at 600mhz not 1.1ghz
will give you the same result of running n900 at 1.1ghz

epitaph 2011-05-18 10:46
Re: [How To] Speed UP N900 to 300%
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by karam (Post 1008851)
WARNING
Moderator EDIT: The following HowTo provides informations that can harm your device or make a reflash in some cases indispensable. Read and process with the necessary caution. You have been warned so don't come back here whining - the packages and steps described are still in a testing stage keep that in mind please.

Hello every body this tutorial is about speedping up n900 using tweaks and some apps
it is a simple tutorial specialy i'm writing it with my N900
ok let us start:
first you need :

1-) kernel-power v47 : in terminal (root)
apt-get install kernel-power-flasher
then : in terminal (root)
echo "blacklist bq27x00_battery" >>/etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
then reboot

2-) swappolube app : in terminal (root)
apt-get install swappolube
then launch it and choose the Proposed then Apply then Store

3-) CSSU (i think no need to explain)

4-) in terminal (root)
leafpad /etc/powervr.d/hildon-desktop.ini
then change
WSEGL_UseHWSync=0
to
WSEGL_UseHWSync=1
then save

Reboot And Enjoy

And few important things :

Try to reduce the (or oganize the menu using APMEFO)
And disable extras when finished
And you can enable smart reflex with the default profile wich will give you 2x time of usage (byt becarefull not to overcloak n900 over than 805 mhz when using smart reflex)

And finaly some patched apps for kernel-power v47
1-) patched qcpu app to tell the correct tempreture
http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...&postcount=125
download the the attachment then install it

2-) patched conky app to tell the correct tempreture
http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...&postcount=136
download the attachment then install it

EDIT

adition tweaks

1-) apt-get install tracker-cfg
then launch it yoyu will see a lowmemorymode
choose it and scroll down to throttle then change it to 10
save and reboot

2-) using cssu-tuner for fast transitions after installing cssu
change it's settings in controle pannel to transitions ms to 200 (and you can try different values)

how ever don't use them-customizer cause it will disable the 9 desktop ability that cssu provide until a reinstall hildon-home

BTW all these tweaks are done without overcloak
you can overcloak to get even a faster performance
:)

And i have been using all these tweaks and no problems
The stuff you posted here isn't suitable to make the device faster. IMO you forgot a lot of things and some others just don't work. It's too bad that the Ovi-Store doesn't accept to modify system variables so that you can't try my little program. But I think the Ovi-Store sucks anyway but the community here is not much better.

shnigi 2011-05-18 10:47
Re: [How To] Speed UP N900 to 300%
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jakiman (Post 1008982)
I was intrigued by the title of this thread. But was disappointed when I saw it as there was nothing new. Other than CSSU which itself doesn't really improve "speed", I've covered them all and more. Check my signature for my article also if you haven't already.

I run mine at 1.1GHz + tweaks and it still doesn't feel 300% faster unfortunately.
Yeah its almost the same post as mine + jakimans guide
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=66521

karam 2011-05-18 10:54
Re: [How To] Speed UP N900 to 300%
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by epitaph (Post 1009003)
The stuff you posted here isn't suitable to make the device faster. IMO you forgot a lot of things and some others just don't work. It's too bad that the Ovi-Store doesn't accept to modify system variables so that you can't try my little program. But I think the Ovi-Store sucks anyway but the community here is not much better.
well let us face it
i agree not every change /tweak will improve the speed of n900
but i disagree that they just don't work

I have my n900 since the first day of release and i have reflashed it about thousands of times and each time i figure out a new thingy
so after all these things i have posted
i can tell that my n900 is 3x times faster than a fresh reflash that has no tweaks

That all what i got to say

azkay 2011-05-18 10:55
Re: [How To] Speed UP N900 to 300%
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by karam (Post 1008986)
Ok then have you got any idea to make you see
for now you need to trust me casue i have a lot of friends did those tweaks and had a great results
and you can ask someone tried them in this thread
and the attention to my post heh this is even my first post in my whole life
idk how to bring attention to it :p

BTW i may do a youtube video but youtube is blocked in my country so i will have to do with a proxy or vpn
but not at the main time
Hes referring to the fact you said "300%", yet didnt post any prove regarding how you came to the "300%" part.

geneven 2011-05-18 11:00
Re: [How To] Speed UP N900 to 300%
 
I'm using all the tweaks mentioned and can guarantee that I didn't experience a 300 percent speedup.

karam 2011-05-18 11:03
Re: [How To] Speed UP N900 to 300%
 
well how much percents then ? 2x ?

jedi 2011-05-18 11:06
Re: [How To] Speed UP N900 to 300%
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by karam (Post 1008986)
Ok then have you got any idea to make you see
for now you need to trust me casue i have a lot of friends did those tweaks and had a great results
and you can ask someone tried them in this thread
and the attention to my post heh this is even my first post in my whole life
idk how to bring attention to it :p

BTW i may do a youtube video but youtube is blocked in my country so i will have to do with a proxy or vpn
but not at the main time
A very simple bench mark could be something like:
Code:
echo "2^2^20" | time bc
(you'll need to install 'bc' from the repos). It makes the CPU calculate a big sum. It will give you a few timing values at the end - these can be used to compare before and after results.

FYI, my N900 gives:
Code:
real    0m 20.64s
user    0m 19.05s
sys    0m 0.05s

phap 2011-05-18 11:15
Re: [How To] Speed UP N900 to 300%
 
Quote:
And you can enable smart reflex with the default profile wich will give you 2x time of usage (byt becarefull not to overcloak n900 over than 805 mhz when using smart reflex)
What does smartreflex? Can someone confirm not to overclock more than 805 mhz with this? I have mine always at 1000 mhz.

karam 2011-05-18 11:25
Re: [How To] Speed UP N900 to 300%
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jedi (Post 1009021)
A very simple bench mark could be something like:
Code:
echo "2^2^20" | time bc
(you'll need to install 'bc' from the repos). It makes the CPU calculate a big sum. It will give you a few timing values at the end - these can be used to compare before and after results.

FYI, my N900 gives:
Code:
real    0m 20.64s
user    0m 19.05s
sys    0m 0.05s
wow what are all these numbers ????
mine gave me
91913691657334104190801066879521312541454667148854 485030418845151690\
20233297414829934529117491005944620826122945145375 518974228103564105\
89143631270819593117511672763809790934475439659135 556195209469339940\
53449764943923503323793053499418544542047073986714 357699749709885102\
53402625823219066821109974979519350883299700513301 904224518773387545\
88550214010179968427026571157438824063861333083747 391779888681400288\
30353237000221107064451085594177004971445156818297 716303676982181810\
61208900010138856789172214520467398263954447245490 016139866231814995\
52164083583822467526645331423710586467581578272190 173355491176402585\
31900160374252772426586756183006710249606090953453 326694321961175552\
10041997505912683830604499167778107295299324145708 885198152637718858\
09727725899842706509840389969035606209442778324399 614905388248040018\
44128335733099428457164416700711857589394382772721 874274192167248625\
98243526713653326401707873932309817374145309368933 357528524253564559\
10262628773774489786739318627194513864234121117380 903963494891644712\
88201738852511599361762926806925823218220193780658 897854717568103234\
81744887964636559625549260463100060182648431883739 279978971144735864\
58594762168008870125963658697017452241786425924006 149923842404928939\
96615381762397522825174954449562882222171484857728 098497332698516289\
77263002496025311639094183955696882118932265503421 659054449634372468\
96134506405325064905172283725844536240351381816046 093909496847623963\
64806154723250300276374809882844075354789273343597 131796036273533749\
87381616793104253465120874343399211301436528093358 465316587323800816\
10343789310558330701938030759873196902565443827940 237946560600819663\
33267122376535482094540186745176803678977358587318 824824454109792286\
41671120516905984781602143450030141025537176604845 844754350949295681\
81725030601630125989838571263630086431907237948604 852170709615404589\
14828482521407007430122629878130588552995999828695 815928067959401366\
17254053575264994757567063189607506546367910853815 972719710269361051\
41454625947560171969501001538543925124881846970621 917597708878154881\
18278788738248093374936943243527734573872009289119 068940335579136
real 0m 15.90s
user 0m 14.10s
sys 0m 0.07s
~ $
hah?

karam 2011-05-18 11:35
Re: [How To] Speed UP N900 to 300%
 
http://tinypic.com/r/wjyz50/7

http://i56.tinypic.com/wjyz50.png

jedi 2011-05-18 11:45
Re: [How To] Speed UP N900 to 300%
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by karam (Post 1009033)
That result by itself doesn't show much - you need to do a before-tweak and after-tweak comparison....

karam 2011-05-18 12:02
Re: [How To] Speed UP N900 to 300%
 
Hold on a sec after i restored orginal swaps and disabled the hardware accel only i got this result
3963\
64806154723250300276374809882844075354789273343597 131796036273533749\
87381616793104253465120874343399211301436528093358 465316587323800816\
10343789310558330701938030759873196902565443827940 237946560600819663\
33267122376535482094540186745176803678977358587318 824824454109792286\
41671120516905984781602143450030141025537176604845 844754350949295681\
81725030601630125989838571263630086431907237948604 852170709615404589\
14828482521407007430122629878130588552995999828695 815928067959401366\
17254053575264994757567063189607506546367910853815 972719710269361051\
41454625947560171969501001538543925124881846970621 917597708878154881\
18278788738248093374936943243527734573872009289119 068940335579136
real 0m 22.88s
user 0m 20.21s
sys 0m 0.08s
~ $

so ?

karam 2011-05-18 12:03
Re: [How To] Speed UP N900 to 300%
 
http://i51.tinypic.com/vpi59x.png

geneven 2011-05-18 12:04
Re: [How To] Speed UP N900 to 300%
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by phap (Post 1009024)
What does smartreflex? Can someone confirm not to overclock more than 805 mhz with this? I have mine always at 1000 mhz.
I lowered my speed to 750 mhz just to try out smartreflex, which does seem to conserve power, making the battery last longer. Just for you, I increased the speed. The moment I went beyond 805 I rebooted.

geneven 2011-05-18 12:09
Re: [How To] Speed UP N900 to 300%
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by karam (Post 1009018)
well how much percents then ? 2x ?
I don't think so. I don't test things, just go by my feelings. I would guess 30 percent or so.


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