List of Meego-Harmattan packages has been found
 

I know that bits and pieces from this list of packages have been discussed in this thread: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...6&goto=newpost

EDIT: Link removed, don't ask why.

My opinion is that this list deserves it's own thread. What do you think?

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Decent Facebook, Twitter and YouTube Apps... Koffice, new browser, Ovi maps with turn by turn support, integrated Picasa upload support (yeah), Joikuspot, Shazam, Video Editor....

what else to mention?

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From twitter:
"SimonLR Simon Hawai'i
Holy ****. Finally. The Nokia "teaser" device is using compcache offically. 14 hours ago Favorite Retweet Reply"

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http://code.google.com/p/compcache/

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:-(

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Nobobody is interested in the Important things i find like this link, they only interested in speculating over icons lol

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Could you please elaborate more. What's Cherry UI app and why you are so disappointed? Because of Ovi rebranding or what? :confused:

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its that forced MYNOKIA registration, SMS send on start up of first time boot, like what was added to later PR's on N900

EDIT: lets hope they added a opt out to it.

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I like l10n-videoeditor-* and video-editor-backend :) A easy to use video editor is one of the few things I miss on my N900

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That's true. Nokia knows how to build hardware, Instead they have been lost with OS/apps/services.

I see that this list of packages is exxxxxxtremely interesting and this should be very carefully explored by bloggers and tweeters. Instead people are measuring images and exploring possible (imaginary) hardware eastern-eggs.

It's sad. Soul of my current N900 is software (with CSSUs etc) - hardware is ok, but UX and apps are most.

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See this, this and this. Platform security could mean we won't be able to disable it this time around.

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Did you notice the NFC libraries? :)

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The browser (called Grob) is based on Webkit instead of gecko. I like Firefox, but it was a huge monster, always-on, in previous Maemos, so it's a good thing to see it.

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Python 2.6 Looks to be already installed from start

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I'm still confused by all the Vodafone packages, maybe this handset is network branded giving us a clue who will stock it

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What is more interesting to me is the possibility to backport oss packages to Maemo 5, both from Meego DE and this Harmattan hybrid.

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This is Maemo 6, not Meego. This is the output of dpkg -l, so it's Debian based.

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looks like it runs on omap soc

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Some packages I thought were interesting:

ii duicontrolpanel-devmodeapplet 0.57+0m6 DUI Control Panel Developer Mode Applet

ii duicontrolpanel-privatemodeapplet 0.20.12-1+0m6 Private mode control panel applet

ii hsync-plugins 0.3.4-7+0m6 Additional Plugins for Haramattan Sync

ii immvibed 0.9-maemo9+0m6 Immersion TouchSense player for Maemo devices

ii odnp-fpcd 0.9+0m6 ODNP Framework fingerprint collection daemon

ii skyhost-vengine 1.10.5-1+0m6 The Voice-Video Engine for Embedded SkyHost

ii omap3-dsp-hd-codecs 0.3.7-3+0m6 720p DSP codecs

ii tnpclient 0.8-5+0m6 Track and protect is a remote security solution for smart phones.

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not good news!

a thoroughly inadequate GPU attached to an inadequate CPU.

and this in a £450 smartphone released in the second half of 2011..................

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The big question is, can we get a N900 port of Maemo 6?

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What are you babbling on about?

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what don't you understand?

Omap3 is an antique.

While an A8 cpu fabbed at 45nm and clocked at 1GHz may provide acceptable performance when running Harmattan it is grossly out of kilter with consumer expectations of a high-end smartphone with a presumed n900 retail price, i.e. circa £450.

However, while the CPU is questionable the GPU is downright archaic! The SGX530 is significantly less powerful than the iPhone 3GS from 2009, which is less powerful than the main android platform of 2010, which is significantly less powerful than the Omap4/Tegra2/SnapdragonX2 platforms of 2011.............. and a world away from the performance of the 28nm platforms against which it will spend its life competing with from early 2012 onwards (presuming it doesn't actually get into shops before Sept).

Using the SGX530 gpu in high-resolution 2011 era smartphone with a (presumed) top-end price tag is utterly bonkers!

That is what i am 'babbling' about.

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What is this I dont even.

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i'm not sure what you are asking..........?

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This thread is about software packages not Hardware so please make a thread and take your rant there

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aha, a coherent response at last. my OP was at least on-topic, but your wish is my command. :)

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I have to agree, while a 1Ghz A8 with 512MB of RAM and an SGX530 would still be an upgrade from what the N900 has, it's really more of just a slight generational increase--something you'd see from phones coming out a few months after it. By now, in mid-to-late 2011 and early 2012, we'll be seeing phones that have 768-1GB+ RAM, GPUs far more powerful than the SGX530, and 1GHz+ dual-core A9 CPUs, hardware much more powerful than the N900. Now, on the one hand, the aforementioned 'generational increase' would still be somewhat better(along with all of its other enhancements, such as extra sensors/hardware) and would probably be fine-ish. On the other hand, the N9 is most probably NOT going to be quite the superphone that it could be this late in the year. That being said, I would hope that at least the specs would include a 1GHz+ A8, 512MB+ RAM, and an SGX 540, although those are the bare minimum that I'd accept. Obviously I'd rather it be even more powerful, but I don't want to be too hopeful.

Edit: I was writing that before the suggestion to stay on topic was added, sorry! It's not really relevant to this thread. I will say that I'm happy to see a video-editing solution built-in this time around, it's a nice feature I could've used with all the videos I take.

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you get hardware expectations from the software-list so to sum up software and hardware - what is new and shiny in RX-71/RM686!

skyhost's V engine gives a clue that wifi driven VVoIP might get hardware accelerated

tnpclient tracking... is there hardware behind or is this only a software stack

NFC - nice but in countries I am around pretty useless for now

has FMTX so broadcasting and recieving will be possible as it is the kinda same chip in n900 already

omap3 packages, the omap36xx series is capable of wxga/720p so good with me

caldav - FOR THE WIN!

barcode gen

TI1273 - is wl1273 for BT/wifi and FMTXD could be with abgn and BT3 but shows wl1271 too o_O

cryptsetup - fs encryption preinstalled?

layar - AR stack

fenix - 2D game engine

grob - webkit browser

XT9 - T9 input method on X

MMS - MMS service stack

python2.6

compasslogic - magnetometer

shazam - shaaaaaZZZZaaaaam^^

simlock - :/

video-suite - video-mgr, editor, TV-out, et al

mtev - XI2 Multitouch environment


what we learn, if any h/w easter-egg then not here...

To sum up in one line, we have:

Capa-touchscreen with XI2 MT - WXGA, compass, fmtx-fmrx, tv-out prolly 720p, omap3 with ti1273 or '71, NFC

for hardware with some new simlock, video-suite, shazam, fenix, augmented reality software stack with caldav support!

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The package for fingerprint gathering is what you think it's for. A soon to be released device was to ship with this module but was tossed at last minute - chances are, a more developer oriented device will include it.

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Yes, I did. I wonder what kind of capabilities are supported in those libraries. Reader mode, P2P, card emulation?

Not for long. NFC is at last coming to the western world, and it is coming fast. Expect an explosion of NFC services all over Europe within the next 24 months.

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What I was getting at was, no one can tell the hardware from the software packages. As far as you know, that package could just be for compatibility.

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How do we know which packages are installed out of the box, and which ones the developer or tester had installed themselves?

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How do you know about OMAP3? IMHO it will definitely be OMAP4.

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I hope it's easy to throw out and replace with a real browser.

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I reject all this excitement on the grounds that I bought an N900, don't really want to pay for the successor, and I don't like other phones that I might actually like out-penis-ing my phone.

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Then in order not to get too excited...i would suggest "not" going across to "Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?"

Tempers are already frayed there and the next step is fisticuffs and poking fingers in each other's eyes...

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Does anyone have a backup of it?

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I have, but its just a half list of packages, not the actual ones.

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Can you publish it here?