is this a dream? (Maemo 6)
 

hi guys can some one explain what is Maemo6 folder?
is it for meego?
Nokia will release a maemo 6?

i'm confused..

i found this folder on QT3d nokia ftp server.. is maemo6 the Meego OS?

here is the link

Re: is this a dream?
 

Maemo 6 = Harmattan = MeeGo Instance

Re: is this a dream?
 

Seems like that. If you watch carefully, you'll also find tags on gitorious for maemo6 aka harmattan ( https://gitorious.org/qtcontacts-tracker/contactsd )

Re: is this a dream?
 

i still want to dream about maemo6 :D

Please Santa Give US MAEMO 6!!!

Re: is this a dream?
 

No. Not Santa. He's still on vacation. I bet this guy will grant us our wish :D

http://media.schadenfreude.net/2008/...atint28329.jpg

Re: is this a dream?
 

your wishes are welcome... :D

-Brock-
aka Djinn ;)

Re: is this a dream? (Maemo 6)
 

Maemo 6 is the OS that will ship with Nokia's upcoming N9 (or whatever it's going to be called) phone.

Meego is an Intel OS that will run on Intel-platform phones that will eventually ship around 2012.

Maemo 6 and Meego are different OS's that really have nothing in common, besides both being Linux instances.

Re: is this a dream? (Maemo 6)
 

Correct me if I am wrong, but I believe MeeGo is a linux distro much like debian, there are intel and ARM targets. MeeGo being better because it has multiple UIs for various usage (netbook, phone, laptop, etc) and just needs to be recompiled.

The N9 is Harmattan based with MeeGo extension included thus being a hybrid Maemo (6?) which is MeeGo compatible.

Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong...

Re: is this a dream? (Maemo 6)
 

Everything I've read (and this is much hearsay, considering Nokia never released information about the N9) leads me to believe that Maemo6 will be a slightly repackaged Maemo5, and definitely will not be Meego-compatible.

Now, Microsoft would certainly love it if Nokia were to market Maemo6 as a "kind of Meego", since that would destroy Meego's credibility and greatly damage Linux mindshare.

But I don't think it will ever happen, not even Microsoft is that evil.

Re: is this a dream? (Maemo 6)
 

I don't think I am breaking any NDAs, when I say that this is false.

If there are going to be incompatibilities, then they will not exist just for the sake of it. And we are definitely not talking about a "slightly repackaged Maemo5".

Just keep in mind that work on Maemo6 began long before Nokia and Intel agreed to cooperate with MeeGo. Clearly you cannot expect that this cooperation means "Nokia to drop everything and use Intel's version of MeeGo instead".

It is a process.

Re: is this a dream? (Maemo 6)
 

Nokia = :S

Re: is this a dream? (Maemo 6)
 

In other words: Maemo6 will not be a Meego instance.

There are fairly strict criteria for what it means to be "Meego compliant". See: http://wiki.meego.com/Quality/Compliance

Maemo6 does not comply. (At best, Maemo6 might be source-code compatible, but I have doubts.)

Re: is this a dream? (Maemo 6)
 

@tkatchev

I actually agree. It will be another N900 device but this time with a better specs/features, polished hardware and polished software.
It will probably have the OVI Store, but only a handful of things.

Basically a super-slick developers device which Nokia will opt as a consumer device, mark my words (or you know save this post in you bookmarks for when it is released to make me eat my words or praise my foresight).

Re: is this a dream? (Maemo 6)
 

yeh but why nokia don't make a conference bout these questions?

I'm too confused and more people is like me.

is Meego maemo6 or not?

It doesnt sems to have much more sense becouse thinking about that Maemo6 is the day after of Maemo5. But meego it's a fusion between Nokia and Intel.. Or not? i understood that Meego has made mixing Moblin and Maemo and they called it Meego.. But maemo6? why some people continue to call it Maemo6?

Re: is this a dream? (Maemo 6)
 

Maemo6 does not meet the criteria for Meego compliance, so no -- Maemo6 is not really Meego.

(Maemo6 might be source-code compatible with Meego, but this is irrelevant for consumers and for the vast majority of developers.)

Also, Meego is not a fusion between Nokia and Intel. Meego is an Intel OS, since Nokia seems to never have contributed anything useful in the partnership.

See here for perspective by Intel CEO:

http://thsnews.com/intel-smartphone-...elays/3210676/

Re: is this a dream? (Maemo 6)
 

i don't wanna have maemo6
I just love maeemo5
Also i don't want any new software update :p

Re: is this a dream? (Maemo 6)
 

me too :D community made a lot of fixes and applications for maemo5.. this is the best community of the world i think.. i use the n900 like a mobile computer and believe me i have to say thanx to you guys becouse my n900 is now a Gorgeus Phone!

god bless you and maemo

Re: is this a dream? (Maemo 6)
 

Wanting Maemo6 would be kinda stupid at this point -- Nokia has already fired all their Linux developers.

Even if Maemo6 works fine upon release, don't expect any support or updates.

Re: is this a dream? (Maemo 6)
 

Hum...
Peter Schneider, Head of MeeGo Marketing at Nokia :

https://www.meego.com/community/blog...-meego-efforts

The truth about MeeGo Harmattan (Quim) :


http://maemo.org/community/maemo-com...n_posts_page=3

;)

Re: is this a dream? (Maemo 6)
 

that's news to me, can you back that up?

........... i rather doubt it given that they currently have 75 meego jobs on offer right now!

Re: is this a dream? (Maemo 6)
 

Yeah.

http://www.zdnet.co.uk/news/jobs/201...cing-40092621/

Also, see what people from the inside have leaked online:

http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comment..._was_recently/

Re: is this a dream? (Maemo 6)
 

OK, granted: Harmattan is not Maemo.

It's not Meego either, though.

From a developer standpoint -- if you have to port your app from Harmattan to run on a Meego device, then it's not Meego.

The change from .deb to .rpm alone is a huge deal-breaker.

If you're calling your OS 'Meego', then it damn well should be able to install .rpms of Meego apps.

Re: is this a dream? (Maemo 6)
 

not good enough, a source talks of the effective abandonment of Meego.

does nothing to dispute or refute the Feb11th press-release from nokia saying that meego was being scaled back as a target of investment given that it was now a project and not a platform.

scaled back, not canned or closed, and given the ridiculous sum nokia has traditionally spent on R&D the post-Elopalypse Meego investment by nokia is still significant.

Re: is this a dream? (Maemo 6)
 

That first one is one guy talking who got laid off two years ago.

The second one talks about the Symbian layoffs/transfer and further future planned layoffs.

I'm not aware of anyone having been fired yet. Nokia is still very much committed to this next device. After that, we will see.

Re: is this a dream? (Maemo 6)
 

Please, spare me the corporatese.

'Scaled back' means Nokia will release whatever they cooked up for the N9 Harmattan device, and then immediately go on to fire their whole Linux department.

If you think Elop and Microsoft will finance Linux development while WP7 is circling down the drain, then you must be insane.

Re: is this a dream? (Maemo 6)
 

i wonder if some of you guys even work in a big corporation

The political battles have already been fought and Meego lost utterly. The loser will now be put on the back burner with a skeleton crew while its full steam for WP7.

This next and last device is only released for 1 reason - they have nearly finished the device, might as well release it and recoup as much cost as possible. But you can bet your *** they will not spend anything significant more to push it - its about maximising sales at this point.

Re: is this a dream? (Maemo 6)
 

1. WIll there be an SDK ala fremantle?

2. How much of it can we backport/steal/copy to n900?

Re: is this a dream? (Maemo 6)
 

still not good enough.

If nokia can come out and announce the complete closure of symbian investment, and symbian phones, then they could just as easily do the same for Meego.

they did not.

http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/11/rip-symbian/

Re: is this a dream? (Maemo 6)
 

Quim has mentioned many times that there will be a Harmattan SDK release.

I don't think anyone knows, yet.