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RogerS 2007-07-06 19:15

Video within GoogleTalk? [Updated: 2x]
 
Quote:

I'm at work and haven't had opportunity to flash the new OS.

But I read this comment from TabulaRasa in the thread about the new release with Skype and Flash9:
When I run Gtalk and open the webcam, the camera shows up within Gtalk.
Well, I know there's a Google Talk plugin for PC's with a webcam that allow you to use video and even have video calls with Skype users. It's called Festoon. It came out last year, and I have no idea why I can't reach the festooninc.com website now. Out of business? Bought by somebody bigger? Just a bad day on the internet?

At any rate, maybe someone with the new OS could let us know more about the interplay between webcam, Google Talk and video calls with PC's using a Festooned Google Talk.

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TabulaRasa 2007-07-06 19:50

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I'm going to post an image of what I see. I don't have a macro lens on my cell phone, so I'm sorry it's SOOOO blurry. I don't recall ever seeing a video window pop up within Gtalk. Maybe I am wrong here, but this time when I try to call another PC with Gtalk installed it says "remote client unable to support video." Not that the N800 can't, but that the PC cannot.

Not sure if it means anything. I always thought the video occured through a separate app. It might have always been this way. I only had a few video calls in the 6 months or so since I got the N800.

djasmith 2007-07-06 20:42

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Hi

I was hunting around a couple of weeks ago for this google talk festoon plugin and the site was unavailable then also :(

Looks like their offline for good if it's still that way.

Google Talk on the N800 using 3.2007.10-7_PR does indeed make use of the camera and at the time that was what got me into searching the web for a desktop google talk client with video built in.

But alas I have yet to find said client or said plugin.

With what looks like the demise of the Nokia VOIP app I am in limbo with regards what use the cam has to offer on the N800 at the moment ?

There was some chatter on the forums hoping that the cam could interface with the web browser via flash 9 and allow us to use some online resource . .

So, any tableteers out there got this festoon plugin or a gtalk desktop client with video ?

TIA

Dave

TabulaRasa 2007-07-06 21:09

Re: Video within GoogleTalk?
 
If anybody wants to test out video calls using gtalk, my screenname on gtalk is drygrass@gmail.com. who knows? maybe we'll learn something if we try it.

My guess, though, is that the latest update concerns future capabilities. It might be little while before applications are made to take advantage of the camera. As for why flash does not see the camera, is it because it's not a supported driver?

omegaone37 2007-07-06 23:51

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Had a great GTalk video chat with TabulaRasa awhile ago... seemed to work just fine... Tab's in New Joisey... I'm in Nuevo Mexico!

... go figure :D

Omega :rolleyes:

omegaone37 2007-07-06 23:54

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:p oops! ... forgot to mention we were both on the N800!

Omega :rolleyes:

SeRi@lDiE 2007-07-07 00:00

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Festoon is no longer supported... I try that months ago and is nothing but problems... if you go to there forum is a forum for spammers only...

RogerS 2007-07-07 02:17

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Originally Posted by omegaone37 (Post 57376)
Had a great GTalk video chat with TabulaRasa awhile ago... seemed to work just fine...

Omega :rolleyes:

Strange that we DO get Skype and video internet calling in the release, just not Skype WITH video internet calling the way I have been projecting for all these many months.

zerojay 2007-07-07 03:20

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Guys, its always been possible to video chat between two N800's over Google Talk.

benny1967 2007-07-07 07:19

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The real issue is GTalk between N800 and a desktop PC; that's what would be needed.

aflegg 2007-07-07 08:02

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Originally Posted by zerojay (Post 57427)
Guys, its always been possible to video chat between two N800's over Google Talk.

Indeed. Immediately after we got our N800s, maddler and I tested it across Europe.

Why the fuss now over something which was so obviously included before?!

Is the point that it now supports Google Video with a Linux or Windows desktop?

TabulaRasa 2007-07-07 09:23

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It does not support desktop video apps now. That's why I agree with you and it seems like a step backward. Unless they are doing it to try to boost n800 sales (need 2 for a video call).

Seb Per 2007-07-07 09:42

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Originally Posted by TabulaRasa (Post 57516)
It does not support desktop video apps now. That's why I agree with you and it seems like a step backward. Unless they are doing it to try to boost n800 sales (need 2 for a video call).

I suggest this add: "Buy 2 N800 and replace your talkie-walkies. Your money back"

RogerS 2007-07-07 23:46

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Originally Posted by aflegg (Post 57494)
Indeed. Immediately after we got our N800s, maddler and I tested it across Europe.

Why the fuss now over something which was so obviously included before?!

Ah, yes. Um . . .

Well, see the update to the main entry. Confusion on my part about whether there was something new here (no) or not.

Roger

maemoma 2007-07-14 18:57

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TabulaRasa (Post 57516)
It does not support desktop video apps now. That's why I agree with you and it seems like a step backward. Unless they are doing it to try to boost n800 sales (need 2 for a video call).

Well, it seems that there aren't so many standard-compatible desktop clients out there supporting XMPP and Video call anyways.... I wonder if Nokia will choose another protocol to be used for desktop video call support, if any. SIP, maybe? At least there are some desktop SIP clients supporting video, ekiga and eyebeam for instance.

Omar Halawa 2007-08-21 23:55

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Does anyone know if Nokia/Skype are going to support video calls in future release of Skype?

Thanks.
Omar

unique311 2007-08-22 00:18

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the N800 video chat to desktop was in beta, they took it out.
Guess maybe it is to boost sales, which sucks, because part of the reason I purchased my N800 was to do my video chat with pc users (don't have any friends with the N800 or 770).

zerojay 2007-08-22 01:18

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Originally Posted by unique311 (Post 70203)
the N800 video chat to desktop was in beta, they took it out.
Guess maybe it is to boost sales, which sucks, because part of the reason I purchased my N800 was to do my video chat with pc users (don't have any friends with the N800 or 770).

No, they removed it because it worked badly and sucked. They're supposedly working on a new solution for PC-tablet videochat.

scrappy898 2007-08-30 13:29

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If nokia supports n800 to pc sip. Can we use that with a sip client on pc(that supports video) to be to have a video call btwn n800 and pc?

zerojay 2007-08-30 13:49

Re: Video within GoogleTalk?
 
Try it and let us know.

konttori 2007-08-30 13:49

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does google talk video work? I mean desktop google talk.

unique311 2007-09-02 14:39

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gizmo has a video version in beta stage for testing out right now. search this site for "video gizmo".

rindeee 2007-09-23 12:12

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Originally Posted by konttori (Post 72128)
does google talk video work? I mean desktop google talk.

No. The Google version of Google Talk has no built in support for VTC (video teleconference or video chat if you will). Interestingly, this isn't a limitation of the Google Talk infrastructure, as you CAN do VTC over Google Talk using two Macs running iChat. The protocol in use and the servers WILL do video chat.

I have recently been testing a new N800 on one end and iChat logged into a Google talk account on the other. Text works fine, voice and video do not. I'm going to keep picking things apart and see if I can't figure out where the point of failure is.

Cheers
ER

ichmoimeyo 2007-09-27 03:47

Re: Video within GoogleTalk?
 
Gizmo: video now working between Internet Tablet & Desktops


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